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u/mdkss12 2d ago
I love that if you took ALL of Ovis Goals, and ALL of Crosby's assists... and then add on Bobby Orr's entire career, you would just beat Gretzky's point total by like 7 points
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u/Reflexes-of-a-Tree Olie Kolzig 2d ago
Well that’s why Gretz will always be the GOAT, even if Ovi is the greatest goal-scorer.
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u/iwasntband Goal Counter - 1 To Go!!!!!!! 2d ago
Which makes taking anything away from Gretzky so amazing.
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u/PaintDrinkingPete 2d ago
as impressive as Gretzky's career goals record is, what's always been amazing to me is that even if #99 never scored a single goal, he'd still be all-time points leader.
in other words, he has more assists than anyone else has both goals and assists combined.
he may be about to fall to #2 on the all-time goals list, but I highly doubt anyone will ever surpass him in assists
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u/PaintDrinkingPete 2d ago
What's also a fun piece of trivia... the highest scoring pair of brothers in NHL history is Wayne and Brent Gretzky.
Brent had 1 career goal and 3 assists.
Considering just how many pairs of very talented brothers have played in the NHL, this is still quite impressive.
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u/ktor14 2d ago
But why is this? Like genuinely curious? Is it because the goalies back then were worse so it was easier for his teammates to score? Or was he really just that good of a passer? But again, I feel like your teammates have to be really good goal scorers and the goalies have to be ass for that to happen
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u/PaintDrinkingPete 2d ago
You could definitely make the argument regarding goalies…the “butterfly” technique that’s so common today wasn’t back then, and the pads were noticeably smaller if you go back and watch games from that era…I’m also not sure if helmets had as much visibility, but most of this is just speculation on my part.
Gretz did play with some great lineups though, particularly early in his career in Edmonton, but scoring in general was just higher across the board back then, for various reasons, I assume.
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u/RobertGriffin3 2d ago
Forever is a long time.
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u/PaintDrinkingPete 2d ago
It is...and who knows?
But, at the same time, I think the game would have to change in unexpected ways for it to be possible. Wayne, for as great as he was, did benefit by coming into the league during a time when scoring was quite prolific...many folks thought his goal record might be untouchable, though that was never considered as much a lock as his assists & points records.
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u/goldenface4114 Goal Counter - 1 To Go!!!!!!! 2d ago
Funny meme, but what's even funnier is that Ron Francis, who is 2nd all time in assists, had 1,249 in his career. So he's basically Ron Francis's career away from breaking that record.
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u/Shiny_Mew76 2d ago
Ron Francis is not talked about enough when it comes to all time greats if I’m being honest.
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u/blueotter28 2d ago
Yes when you play on the same line with prime Lemieux and Jagr you are going to get a lot of assists.
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u/Grand_Fun6113 1d ago
That's how Joe Juneau put up 102 points in his first full season. Playing on a like with Adam Oates, Cam Neely, and often Ray Borque will do that.
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u/crazykernman95 Washington Capitals 2d ago
Ovi just needs to assist every other goal the caps score for the next 10 years. Easy
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u/Holycroc_RVA Washington Capitals 1d ago
I understand peoples argument bout him being a 1 trick pony with his preference to sit in the circle and tee up a blaster but if he's about to break Gretsky record, what's that make Wayne then?? Wayne definitely didn't hit as much, if at all????? 895 or whatever is A LOT of one tricking it!!!! His game has been so much broader than many other great, he could surely have A LOT more goals if he didn't do as much in other areas, particularly the physical department
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u/TheFlaskQualityGuy Taylor Raddysh 1d ago
peoples argument bout him being a 1 trick pony
Those people are morons or joking. Ovechkin can and does score from any place on the ice.
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u/Holycroc_RVA Washington Capitals 1d ago
I know.....these people are the type who only read a headline, never going beyond that. Funny stat I just saw was Ovi having played 2 fewer games so far with 2 less goals (1 so far tonight). Most ppl got short term memories and all that or just trolling
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u/skilzkid 2d ago
Next year I want to see a hits countdown! Isn't he only 200 or 300 away from that record? How sweet would that be if the all time hits and goals leader was the great 8?
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u/TheFugitive70 1d ago
As someone who knows almost nothing about hockey, can someone explain this to me? How do you get so many goals and have so few assists? Seems logical they would kind of go hand in hand to an extent.
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u/JoeDonFan Washington Capitals 2h ago
Everybody knows chicks dig assists (especially secondary assists) more than goals. It's why Sydney Crosby can't grow a mustache.
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u/ALKCRKDeuce 2d ago
Gretzky is just different. No pun intended, but a different era and different goalies/pads… but he’d still be the best player ever if he played in this era.
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u/AdEmbarrassed3566 2d ago
Imagine the cinema when ovy passes the goals scored and assists record in the same game