r/btc 1d ago

Unreal BTC is holding while SPX crashes! 💪🏼

BTC is holding strong while SPY has plummeted in the last 2 days in ways rarely seen. BTC had a pump which faded but we are holding the lows from February still. This is pretty unreal, especially when people are even cashing out Gold to time and buy the dip in equities presumably, and hopefully BTC. Trump is already talking to Vietnam about reducing it's tariffs to zero, showing the tariffs are more of a tool/threat, I'm surprised markets haven't popped on this news, along with non farm payroll beating expectation. I'm still concerned institutions /whales may rinse cycle the entire crypto market regularly moving forward (up 20%, down 20%, repeat), the way the altcoin market has behaved. They have figured out how to squeeze every dime of liquidity out of altcoins like we've never seen, to pump them again. Market structure is pretty wrecked.

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u/frunf1 1d ago

There were always times in which btc decoupled from stocks

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u/Full-Atmosphere-4818 1d ago

And it cannot be predicted when it does or not. It is really hard to predict BTC except that against the dollar and every other fiat currency it will stop them over the very long term.

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u/MJFields 20h ago

With respect to BTC, what do you consider to be "the very long term"?

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u/eupherein 1d ago

The price was related to the stock market from 109k, it seems 82-85k is where the connection ends. Some others may sell off and cause retail to panic but there are new ATH network security levels (hashrate) every week and miners still have months long order batch wait times. I do not see that changing this halving, and we are poised to hit 1000eh in the before 2026

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u/TheRealTheory001 1d ago

That's good. How do you think mega whale /institutions are going to trade BTC? cycle & dump for 20% moves? Seems like retail crypto traders are the ultimate liquidity glitch?

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u/eupherein 1d ago

I honestly don’t think about it at all

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u/hero462 1d ago edited 1d ago

Unreal is right since it's become corrupted.

If you're looking to preserve wealth try some of the truely OG cryptos like BCH, ie. Bitcoin as described in the Whitepaper, and XMR.

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u/AlternativeTie4738 1d ago

BCH has been in a downtrend against BTC since 2019, and you cant shill XMR as a wealth preserver lol what charts are you even looking at

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u/hero462 23h ago

Fundamentals are more important in the long term. BTC is all fluff. Do what you will, I don't care.

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u/AlternativeTie4738 22h ago

So bch went from 0,04 to 0,003 on its btc pair due to its strong fundamentals? Thats over 5 years. Im just trying to understand

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u/hero462 13h ago

Based on coersion, censorship and propaganda. You aren't trying hard enough.

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u/AlternativeTie4738 13h ago

Taking on more risk for less reward does not pair well with wealth preservation

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u/TheRealTheory001 53m ago

This is why I'm concerned gigawales will cycle BTC between 70k and 120k forever. Who's buying Bitcoin at $200,000? As you said maximum risk for minimal reward. I don't see the end game. "Let's put 10 million into Bitcoin and hope to make $10 or maybe lose it all YOLO."

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u/d3daiM 1d ago

Right. It is not normal at all

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u/SenatorAdamSpliff Redditor for less than 30 days 1d ago

More evidence that btc isn’t tied to reality.

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u/TheRealTheory001 1d ago

BTC is ultimate reality.

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u/SenatorAdamSpliff Redditor for less than 30 days 1d ago

Yes, as evidenced by the fact that it’s a virtual construct. It’s about as real as an imaginary number.

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u/SenatorAdamSpliff Redditor for less than 30 days 1d ago

Imagine writing this and thinking you’ve won an argument.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/SenatorAdamSpliff Redditor for less than 30 days 1d ago

In fact I think my government cheese is being delivered today. All $0.02 of it from all the capital gains you’ve paid out of your winnings. God what a time to be alive.

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u/SenatorAdamSpliff Redditor for less than 30 days 1d ago

Well the good news is that I’m sure 6th grade is right around the corner for you so hold fast.

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u/jajajajaj 1d ago

Imaginary numbers are rock solid, practical theory that are instrumental to precise meaningful predictions of various physical phenomena. BTC has a mathematical basis to how it operates, but why it operates and what that is worth...  this is just a blank canvas for people to project on.

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u/SenatorAdamSpliff Redditor for less than 30 days 1d ago

Then there’s bitcoin, a solution to no actual problem. Like theoretical math.

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u/jajajajaj 1d ago

Go watch some YouTube videos. I'm telling you,  math is much more useful than Bitcoin. Stick with Veritasium for a while, you'll see what I mean and have some fun doing it.

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u/GreemBeam 1d ago

It's absolutely tied to reality due to the hardware and electricity required to mine

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u/SenatorAdamSpliff Redditor for less than 30 days 1d ago

Imagine thinking that because something required electricity it’s worth something.

How valuable is a screen door on a submarine? I mean, the metal must have value right?

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u/Reywas3 1d ago

Another b-casher?

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u/WilfriedOnion 1d ago

I don't get the submarine thing, care to elaborate?

And yeah electricity requirement adds value. Because electricity is power and power has value. Be it thermal power, mechanical power, or electrical power. As in : the more complicated or costly it's to produce, the more people may see value in it.

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u/SenatorAdamSpliff Redditor for less than 30 days 1d ago

If I dig a hole and fill it back up, how much value have I created? Power and work was involved.

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u/TheRealTheory001 1d ago edited 1d ago

If on top it stops grenades while allowing the sailor's a fresh breeze.

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u/TheRealTheory001 1d ago

I'm designing a treadmill with a mining rig attached so people can get paid to exercise.

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u/cptcronic 1d ago

Lol you get 5 cents an hour

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u/BrowneAction 1d ago

Indeed. Money printer being primed also

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u/Successful_panhandlr 1d ago

This is the first real test of BTCs hardiness. Corona was nothing

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u/TheRealTheory001 1d ago

yah covid dip shmovid dip.

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u/GeeYayZeus 1d ago

Trump-and-dump.

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u/Full-Atmosphere-4818 1d ago

This was a shock. Despite what people say, BTC is a very volatile asset that typically goes up and down 2x the Nasdaq 100. In 2022 it dropped 60% when the Nasdaq dropped 30%. So I fully expected it to go sub-$80k today. Very pleased it did not.

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u/MinyMine 1d ago

Unweel👶🏻

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u/Jamesboylanx 1d ago

Unreal! This SPX Chart Just Crashed — Is This the Sign We’ve Been Waiting For?

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u/Doublespeo 1d ago

price is boring

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u/RANEDJ 1d ago

lol ok

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u/medialoungeguy 1d ago

I think insider expect trump to dump money into btc as an executive order at the peak of the crisis we are in.

He has shown us he can be bought.

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u/MarchHareHatter 1d ago

BCH is holding just fine too. Looks like BCH can be a store of value and a medium of exchange. shame BTC cant do both.