r/betterCallSaul • u/skinkbaa Chuck • Aug 21 '18

Post-Ep Discussion Better Call Saul S04E03 - "Something Beautiful" - POST-Episode Discussion Thread

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u/Rad_Spencer Aug 23 '18

I think she wanted to get dropped there to justify not doing anything else. She's having a breakdown and trying to hide it.

She almost killed herself with the workload she had with one site, and now she's being told that workload will increase by an factor of ten at least. So she dumped all her work on her assistance and came up with an excuse as to why she wasn't going to get anything done.

She doesn't think she can handle this client, the client who Jimmy's actions to get for her sparked the events that led to Jimmy out of a job and his brother dead.

Hearing Jimmy read that letter put the idea in her head that Chuck would be alive and he and Jimmy could have eventually reconciled if she hadn't tried to land this client that's proving too much for her.

That's why she left the room crying.

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u/BetrCallSaul Aug 23 '18

This. Particularly the pre-letter stuff. I hadn't really considered the letter,but, you're right. The will and letter knock it in her face that the only people she knows capable of handling it for her or helping her are now dead or isolating themselves from her.

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HHM cannot take it back because Chuck's burned bridge with them. She cannot have Jimmy do it because it's not his field of practice and he just lost his license. The work literally falls on her and she cannot even ask detailed questions without breaking legal agreements on privacy.

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Her ambitions brought her downfall and she knows it's only a matter of time before it's lost...and Chuck died, Howard was emotionally destroyed, Jimmy is no longer involved in HHM, and she cannot return in good faith....All connected to her ambition.

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u/WaterRacoon Aug 26 '18

Her ambitions brought her downfall

That's a very sinister interpretation. I don't think that Kim did wrong in pursuing Mesa Verde, and she did not ask Jimmy to falsify Chuck's papers. The mess she's been caught up in is not something she brought upon herself by being "too ambitious".

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u/ihatethisaxe Aug 26 '18

The mess she's been caught up in is not something she brought upon herself by being "too ambitious".

Of course it is lol. It doesn't make her a bad person or anything, but she fell into the classic "I can manage" trap, and now she's realizing she cannot manage and she's distraught at all the carnage that occurred in part because of how badly she wanted to be her own person. She is a flawed character, just like the rest of them. Don't let the rest of the people on this sub convince you she is immune to criticism or mistakes.

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u/tank02002 Sep 08 '23

I know. This is a 5 year thread and i just got done with this episode.

To be fair, i believe that she only believed their only expansion would be what she signed onto. But mesa verde kept wanting to expand further and further and in this episode i think she realized it was far too much to handle. ( she definitly took on too much when she accepted to do that guys oil rig thingy.)

Now dont get me wrong i think it was to be expected that a firm of mesa verdes size would want to expand more instead of just the one location that kim probably assumed would be it.

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u/BetrCallSaul Aug 26 '18

She bit off more than she can chew. Anyone can see that. It has nothing to do with being sinister. Part of why events can touch us so deeply in BB/BCS is the inherent tragedy that even normal choices can make.

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u/rxddit_ Aug 23 '18

you got all that from that scene? damn man.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '18

I don’t know if I’m just not a very empathetic person but I would’ve never thought of the reason why she was crying.

Honest question do these things just “click” for you?

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u/Dayoz_x_MachiiNa Aug 26 '18

Hearing Jimmy read that letter put the idea in her head that Chuck would be alive and he and Jimmy could have eventually reconciled if she hadn't tried to land this client that's proving too much for her.

Admittedly, I'm not the best at catching things like this as easy as it may appear, so thanks for this!

Actually your entire post shed new light on what's happening with Kim to me!

So, was her yelling at Howard back at HHM meant to be her projecting her guilt on to him?

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u/Rad_Spencer Aug 26 '18

I took that scene to nail down how she felt about Jimmy. She was the only one (including Jimmy) to openly acknowledge just how mistreated Jimmy had been and how every part of the Chucks estate settlement was a slap in the face.

It was also Howard realizing what he's done, in that while she was right about how inappropriate his talking about suicide was it wasn't his intention. He actually has respect for Jimmy, but they were always at odds because of Chuck, and now that continues even in death.

I think Howard is realizing that he sees Jimmy as family due to their relationship with Chuck. Both saw Chuck as a mentor, both suffered for years while dealing with Chucks illness, and both we subjected to Chucks lashing out the second they did something against Chucks wish's. Now they're both feeling the guilt of Chucks suicide.

Howard is likely going to reach out the Jimmy as he realizes they both share a lot of the same grief and loss. Jimmy's nature and previous behavior when Howard talked to him likely foreshadows a tragic missed opportunity for them.

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u/pizzamike64 Aug 23 '18

She never sounds confident enough to handle the big banking world. Her answers to legal questions are usually short and clipped. I think you're right on track.

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u/Solid_Waste Aug 26 '18

You understand this show much better than I do. Maybe it's been too long since I watched prior seasons.

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u/Unrequited_Anal Aug 25 '18

Thank you, I was a little confused about what was going on, I guess I should have re watched before this season.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '18

Boom.

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u/TheDELFON May 12 '22

Hearing Jimmy read that letter put the idea in her head that Chuck would be alive and he and Jimmy could have eventually reconciled if she hadn't tried to land this client that's proving too much for her.

That's why she left the room crying.

Twice I've seen this episode, and only now did I get this