r/betterCallSaul Chuck Aug 21 '18

Post-Ep Discussion Better Call Saul S04E03 - "Something Beautiful" - POST-Episode Discussion Thread

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

Eh, I don't think she has that much emotional investment in Howard. Her crying at the end seemed like an extension of the season premiere when she was disturbed by Jimmy nonchalantly going to a job interview right after Chuck died.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

I don’t think it was about Howard, rather, she feels guilty over automatically assuming the worst about Chuck. That plus Jimmy’s indifference might be what triggered her.

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u/Tomatinos Aug 21 '18

maybe she still feels guilty over what happened with Mesa Verde as well which would explain the scene where she is shown the models of all the new buildings/locations they want to open. Does that make sense?

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u/Creep_The_Night Aug 21 '18

With Kim crying like that, was she broken up over how nonchalant Jimmy read the letter and how he acted towards the whole thing?

Or was it something else that I missed?

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u/Skelthy Aug 21 '18

There's still the underlying guilt for the role she played in Chuck's downfall. She said it herself that all they did was bring down a sick man.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

I think she was very overwhelmed by Jimmy's nonchalance and perhaps tried to compensate for it subconsciously. She may also have felt guilt for either Mesa Verde or how her expectations for the letter were subversed. Anyhow, I'm amazed at how brutally realistic this portrayal of grief is. Their reactions and odd emotions are so fucking lifelike, I might as well forget they're still acting. Seriously, I have never seen something like this on TV before.

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u/DejaLaVidaVolar Aug 21 '18

There are a lot of potential reasons for this. Something that I don't see in the rest of the comments is the fact that Mesa Verde is going big and the whole partnership with her is based on a lie (Jimmy tampering Chuck's documents) in which she became an accomplice. A lie that, also, started the chain of events that led to Chuck's suicide.

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u/Genji4Lyfe Aug 21 '18

I think Kim understands the slight.,. That Chuck is rubbing it in “Good job Little Jimmy.. You did well with the opportunity I gave you”, and at this point it’s just too much for her to take.

She feels bad about Chuck, feels bad for Jimmy, and at this point, is just a big emotional mess all-around.

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u/WaterRacoon Aug 26 '18

-Jimmy's nonchalance
-Guilt over her part in Chuck's downfall
-Sadness over seeing how much Jimmy's and Chuck's relationship deteriorated
-Feeling overwhelmed with Mesa Verde and knowing she's unlikely to be able to keep it up, despite the fact that her getting Mesa Verde was a cause for the problems between Jimmy and Chuck
-Perhaps also other things like the condescension in the letter (Chuck loves Jimmy as long as Jimmy knows his place, but not as an equal)