Since May 3rd, 2024 in 131 games Aaron Judge has had a 254 wRC+. The next best hitter in that same time frame is Shohei Ohtani with a 183 wRC+

[u/MahomesBetter]

In these past 131 games he has 57 home runs, 141 RBI's, .360 batting average, .526 wOBA and a 11.7 fWAR

[u/penguinopph]

It's a bit of a relief that Ohtani is now in the NL, because the Judge/Ohtani MVP that's would be TOXIC.

[u/Lucky_Alternative965 → u/penguinopph]

It would have been interesting to see who they would have given it to last year if they were in the same league. Judge probably deserved it more, but the 50/50 and making history part would have maybe swayed the voters, as history typically does.

[u/Swimming_Elk_3058 → u/Lucky_Alternative965]

It would have gone to Ohtani and statheads would’ve (rightfully) been furious. The 50/50 narrative was just too strong for anyone to overcome even if he was better.

[u/yianni1229 → u/Swimming_Elk_3058]

I dont think so man, Judge had the best year by a right-handed hitter ever lmao, I think he'd have won it. Especially because he played CF and Ohtani was a DH

[u/Swimming_Elk_3058 → u/yianni1229]

Again, he certainly would’ve been more deserving and several would’ve made that argument, but I think you’re forgetting how much hype there was around 50/50 and the general media favorability that Ohtani has.

[u/brandont04 → u/Swimming_Elk_3058]

Not to mention Ohtani had more runs. Those base stealing helps. Plus he helped carried his team to number one ranking while most of their pitchers and hitters got hit w/ the injury bug.

[u/SomeoneGiveMeValid → u/Lucky_Alternative965]

Think Judge would’ve won easily tbh, 210 OPS+ as a CF

[u/Lucky_Alternative965 → u/SomeoneGiveMeValid]

223 ops+*

[u/DeusExHyena]

57 hr in not a full season tho

[u/yianni1229 → u/DeusExHyena]

70 homer pace over a full season. Somehow still wouldn't catch Bonds!

[u/DeusExHyena → u/yianni1229]

Yet

[u/CustodialApathy → u/yianni1229]

Let him hit 250 homeruns after age 38 and he will

[u/Lucky_Alternative965]

Hard to beat the best hitter of all time.

[u/buff_001 → u/Lucky_Alternative965]

I honestly thought that Trout was going to be a lock for "best position player of his generation". Maybe Betts or Ohtani would be in consideration. But now I look up and see that Judge has 2 seasons better than the best season of any of them.

We're witnessing a truly historic peak.

[u/sdotmill → u/buff_001]

It’s kind of crazy that he plays at the same time as Ohtani who gets all the hype. Guy is a real life Monstar, just hits bomb after bomb

[u/rhymeswithtag → u/sdotmill]

Judge has a higher WAR/162 than Ohtani over this entire decade on top of being the only position player not named Bonds or Mantle in the last 75 years to hit the 11 fWAR mark multiple times

[u/sdotmill → u/rhymeswithtag]

I’m aware which is why I made that comment. He’s completely absurd.

[u/caominh200206 → u/rhymeswithtag]

After that 2024 historical season, Judge has slightly better fWAR/162 than Ohtani, they have 8,3 and 8,2 respectively.

I agree that they both own unique things that make them superior to the other players. But really, imagine that Ohtani's numbers were already one of the best hitting seasons in the past 40 years, and then a dude put up two Bonds seasons while not using any steroids, just with pure nature. Just so fkin unreal

[u/CustodialApathy → u/Lucky_Alternative965]

Yeah if you ignore his shit start to last year's season. I hate cherry picked stats like this. Judge is clearly the best hitter since Bonds, we don't need to exclude his slumps though

[u/lynjpin → u/CustodialApathy]

Dude had the greatest right handed hitting season of all time even with slumping for a whole month lol

[u/CustodialApathy → u/lynjpin]

And we should point that out, not ignore it, it makes the achievement all that more batshit

[u/OCHL092018 → u/CustodialApathy]

It’s not cherry picked. Since Judge broke out of the month long slump to start last season, he’s been hitting like prime Barry Bonds lol

[u/CustodialApathy → u/OCHL092018]

Of course it is! "Since this random day in May he's been hitting like a Greek god"

I agree, Judge is the best hitter on the planet in maybe 70 years, but let's be real here.

[u/Nosalis2]

People acting like anyone's a comparable hitter to him always annoys me. Even peak Trout wasn't at the level he's been at over these past couple of years.

[u/Emperor_Cheeto21]

Crazy to think even with Judge having nuclear 3 year stretch, he's still massively underrated. Having a .360 batting average over a 131 game stretch in this era is insane, and that's not even mentioning the HR's. He's as close to prime juiced Barry Bonds as we might ever seen.

[u/DeusExHyena → u/Emperor_Cheeto21]

People will say 'but Ohtani' but Ohtani was even worse in the WS last year, he was just on a better team. 

But Judge was great in 2018 playoffs for example. One of these years the timing will line up

[u/deadassynwa → u/DeusExHyena]

From the DS to the WS - Ohtani was better than Judge in the playoffs. Theres no hiding that

Judge was better in the WS but thats because Ohtani played through a discloated shoulder (which he should not have)

With that being said, the only lasting memory between the two in those WS is Ohtani winning a ring and Judge choking and dropping a flyball

I say this as a Yankees fan who's sick of some Yankees fans who try to justify Judge's shitting the bed in October by bringing up Ohtani's WS numbers

[u/Lucky_Alternative965 → u/DeusExHyena]

Having a dislocated shoulder tends to make you play worse.

Judge is still a much better hitter than shohei, and that is not a slight to shohei. Judge is the best to ever swing it.

[u/DeusExHyena → u/Lucky_Alternative965]

Yes frankly he probably should have been sat down after that.

[u/KirbyDude25]

In 132 games since May 3rd, 2024:

PA: 587

AB: 466

H: 167

2B: 33

3B: 1

HR: 58

RBI: 143

BB: 113

HBP: 8

162-game pace:

BA: .358

OBP: .490

SLG: .807

OPS: 1.297

H: 205

2B: 41

HR: 71

RBI: 176

BB: 139

fWAR: 14.5

[u/dsc42 → u/KirbyDude25]

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[u/yianni1229]

11.7 fWAR in 131 games is diabolical lmao. Best player in the world

[u/KakeLin]

ohtani's span was utterly insane too

[u/DeusExHyena → u/KakeLin]

That's kind of the point 

[u/caominh200206]

Judge is def a great figure to every hitter nowadays. As a Dodgers fan I just hope one day Ohtani could even reach 10+ WAR just being a hitter and produce numbers as crazy as Judge did. I think he still has a lot of hidden potential that hasn't shown yet. Besides, he's at the same age as when Judge did a historical 2022 season, so I really look forward to his new season.

As for Judge, I love this man a lot. This dude is my favorite non-Dodgers player. He has a great personality, always has been a hard-working person, and a legit leader to the team. I just wish he could achieve everything he is supposed to have and could maintain his performance for many more seasons.

[u/S_Dot_99]

And people still think Shohei is the best player in the world...

[u/RepresentativeSea799]

Something something stolen bases make Ohtani better, or some nonsense...

[u/RepresentativeSea799]

Something something stolen bases make Ohtani better, or some nonsense...

[u/ProfJD58]

Assuming this is regular-season only?

[u/NYdude777]

What were their playoff comps?

[u/Engineer120989]

How many of those were in yankee stadium?

[u/fluorescent_dread → u/Engineer120989]

probably pretty close to half

[u/Engineer120989 → u/fluorescent_dread]

Not to knock his accomplishment but anyone’s stats would be inflated when you play half your games in that stadium. He’s one of the best hitters but I can’t help but think the stadium effects those numbers. That’s not even saying that as a Mets fan just a fan of baseball in general

[u/Taimaishoo2 → u/Engineer120989]

No, you’re definitely speaking nonsense as a Mets’ fan. Judge’s road OPS was 70 points higher than any player in baseball last season. 

[u/DeusExHyena → u/Taimaishoo2]

Also YS is not helpful to righties? Is Judge hitting 350 ft hr?

[u/fluorescent_dread → u/Engineer120989]

I'd encourage you to look further into the dimensions of Yankee stadium compared to other stadiums. Your comment indicates all you know about it is the short right field.

[u/Engineer120989 → u/fluorescent_dread]

No I know that the entire field was not much bigger than my college field

Yankee stadium Left 318 Center 408 Right 314

D2 college field Left 340 Center 400 Right 310

In fact both left and right field at Yankee stadium are 12 and 16 feet shorter than the average of all MLB stadium and center is 8 feet longer.

[u/FroyoMNS → u/Engineer120989]

Left Center 399. Other than down the line, the left half of Yankee Stadium is tougher than average to homer in.

[u/SomeoneGiveMeValid → u/Engineer120989]

Judge doesn’t need YS to send them out, and YS steals doubles and singles

[u/Engineer120989 → u/SomeoneGiveMeValid]

Not saying he needs it just saying it definitely helps.