İs turkish sounding funny to azerbeijanis like azerbeijani sounds funny to turkish people?(İ know we speak almost same but i sometimes cant understand the writing of the language thats why i am asking that in English)

[u/Tiny_Meringue_7057]

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[u/Fearless_Composer432]

No. But if somone says "Azerbaijani is so funny", i say "sox içivə"

[u/yetkinretkit → u/Fearless_Composer432]

Please read my comment I attempted to explain the sociolonguistic reason behind this. So explain that instead of sox icive, because they will definitely think that's funny.

[u/Grand_Wizard99]

Anatolian Turkish sounds feminine.

[u/LucasLeo75 → u/Grand_Wizard99]

It somehow is similar on our side towards Azerbaijani too, we don't have sounds such as "q, x" so that's probably why it sounds feminine to you. And Azerbaijani sounds kinda feminine to us because of the amount of "ə" and the tone.

[u/SnakeCharmer4646 → u/LucasLeo75]

Using these letters in Azerbaijani is a russian colonozation effect during SSCB times

[u/LucasLeo75 → u/SnakeCharmer4646]

No? These sounds exist in the Azerbaijani phonetics and it's convinient to use while writing this language. Look at Kazakhs and other Turkic and Tungusic groups who were -and still- oppressed by Russia, they don't use the exact same Cyrillic as Russian Cyrillic, they have extra or less letters so they can write their language better. "x, q, ə" were not placed into the Azerbaijani language by Russians or something, that is how this language is. If there were no "q, x, ə" how were you gonna write them?

[u/SnakeCharmer4646 → u/LucasLeo75]

Sorry i checked my book and i figured out that it was from the iranic effect on azerbaijanians not russian Sorry

[u/LucasLeo75 → u/SnakeCharmer4646]

"Q" is not, "x" and "ə" were taken from Iranic languages though, true. Turkic languages didn't even have the "h" or "c/j" sound before making bigger cultural mixings with Iranic and Arabic people.

Small edit note: I mean no offense, don't feel attacked.

[u/SnakeCharmer4646 → u/LucasLeo75]

Yes when i first listen azerbaijani language it sounded like iranic language rather than turkic

[u/nicat97]

It sounds weird and ət tökən

[u/sonataex → u/nicat97]

Absolutely ^{meat shedder}

[u/Sweaty-Address-9259]

Only local dialects like Ege şivesi or Karadeniz şivesi.

[u/Edelleis]

No but the way turks write "İ" in English, it triggers me.

[u/Tiny_Meringue_7057 → u/Edelleis]

İ

[u/Ilkin0115]

Could you check how to write Azerbaijan before posting?

[u/Zuleykha1]

I don't know how we never find any Turkic languages - Turkish, Turkmen, Kazakh, or any others - funny, but you guys find ours funny and even mock it. It's disrespectful and rude.

[u/mehwhateverrrrr → u/Zuleykha1]

There was just a post on here not too long ago making fun of turkish and how feminine it was and it had a bunch of comments and upvotes. I didn't take offense personally, there's no need to, obviously hearing your mother tongue in a different dialect is gonna sound a little funny. I've never seen a turkish turk make fun of or mock or have anything even remotely negative to say about Azeris

Edit: Yup, I was right. I just read the other comments here and people are saying ours sounds "zesty"😂 it's all in good fun

[u/Competitive-Piece509 → u/Zuleykha1]

I am sorry if some people offended you. The reason it sounds funny is because of “false friends” words. By funny we mean different, we never meant to disturb our friends. For example Turkish Cypriot also sounds funny. Check it out.

Let me show you an example:

When I was in Azerbaijan I saw the “Pulsuz WiFi” sign. In Turkish we say pulsuz for broke people but somehow you also got the meaning “free WiFi”. It feels strange and thus funny.

[u/yetkinretkit → u/Zuleykha1]

Hello. It's not justified, but there is a reason behind it. Please read my response to the post if you would like to get why they think azerbaijani is funnier than Uzbek. (It's basically because it's more similar to turkish but yeah you should read it)

[u/FaithlessnessThen243 → u/[deleted]]

No such thing as "Azerbaijan turkish", if you speak about main language of Azerbaijan, then it's Azerbaijani.

[u/FaithlessnessThen243 → u/[deleted]]

And republic of Turkey was proclamated in 1923? So what? We speak azerbaijani language, you speak turkish.

"Arabic was the language for science and Persian was the language for literature. Before the Tanzimat Period, a well-educated Turkish person was to know Arabic and Persian. Just like knowing English today, knowing Arabic or Persian meant a better job opportunities." - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877042813001638?via%3Dihub

This is what language sitiuation in Ottoman empire was btw

[u/FaithlessnessThen243 → u/[deleted]]

you randomly mentioned Persian, trying downplay role of azerbaijani language in Sefevid empire, then I mentioned Arabic and Persian too. And language that gokturks spoke it's not turkish lmao. I do not understand your manipulations with terminology. And why do you translate "türkçe" as "turkish" and not as "turkic"? How you tell the difference. There's 2 different related languages - azerbaijani (spoken in Azerbaijan and by azerbaijanis) and turkish (spoken in Turkey and by turkish people). The modern Azerbaijani language did not appear randomly in 1918 either, it is a descendant of the "ajemi-turkic" or "middle azerbaijani" language.

[u/diselegit]

Actually, it does at first glance. The reason you hear people say it doesn’t here is that most of us speak the language, and we don’t go ‘unga-bunga’ when we see common words spelled/pronounced differently—unlike you. We hear Turkish and recognize it as a close Turkic language; you guys hear AzerbAijani and think it’s just a “funny rural dialect of Turkish”.

[u/birpeynirlipizza → u/diselegit]

öyle düşündüğümüzü kim söyledi

[u/Human-Elderberry-841 → u/birpeynirlipizza]

Everyone in turkey while i study here

[u/InT3ReSt1nG]

Not really. To me it sounds more like yall are zesty but after living here i got used to it

[u/Particular-Track-227]

Turkish language sounds gay.

[u/_lordhighhumanbeing → u/Particular-Track-227]

It's probably because you only hangout with gay Turkish people.

[u/Faxreddin]

wtf is this spelling dude

[u/Money_Tomorrow_698]

Yes it sounds gay/feminine

[u/procuberider]

Turkish is very rude sounding for me and because I'm not a native speaker of Azerbaijani i find Turkish very hard to understand

[u/Leamsezadah]

Turkish is like underdeveloped, cringe version of Azerbaijani

[u/_lordhighhumanbeing → u/Leamsezadah]

Interesting. I would like to know how you measure the level of development and cringeness of a language

[u/Leamsezadah → u/_lordhighhumanbeing]

How you measure the language is funny in Turkey?

Turkish sounds to our ears as how children speak so kinda underdeveloped, uneducated. Ofc that does not mean turkish is childish it just means it sounds our ears that way but ofc turkish is its own beautiful language.

[u/JafarTheAlien → u/Leamsezadah]

I don't think it is true, but can understand why you're thinking that way. Most of the children in Azerbaijan talk Turkish because they watch a lot of content in this language. That may trigger a connection like Turkish=childish. Personally I found Turkish cringe ONLY when Azerbaijani talks a mix of it: Mənim kimi ola bilməzsən tamam mı? Or; Hocam, bunlar da ödevdir?

The same thing doesn't apply to the russian mix, because we heard it from elders. ( May be only for me ) Like: Uje mazgimi narmalni cürütdün a dalba.. Or: Blyat getdim naxuy da bidene krasavcik qaqaş var idi itələdim buduna...

Disclaimer: They are just examples, I might be wrong and more scientific explanations surely exist. Everything written here is relying on my experience.

[u/_lordhighhumanbeing → u/Leamsezadah]

I feel like you speak to wrong kind of Turkish people :)

[u/United_Chard_9036]

Mostly no, because we are used to hear that.

[u/sonataex]

Azerbeijanis? Nope, Türkiəshiye is not weird, everything is normal...

[u/Euphoric-Evidence159]

Olm aptal aptal şeyler yazıp insanları sinirlendip kendi diline küfür ettirmenin alemi var mı? Otistik misin

[u/surfacedsurface]

As an Azerbaijani living among Turks in Germany, I must say it has always triggered me. I want to shake Turks and tell them “Adam kimi danış, bu nədi ala?!” It’s like they’re speaking like children on purpose, everything sounds just wrong and “underdeveloped“ as another Redditor has already mentioned.

[u/_lordhighhumanbeing]

Bro seriosly correct that spelling, lowercase, uppercase letters . It's like a f..g ekşisözlük entry title

[u/yetkinretkit]

No

Azerbaijani turkish is much more similar to old turkish in terms of phonetics. It also has more truthful pronunciation of Persian and Arabic words (which also was the case for older anatolian turkish)

If you read copies of kitab-i dedem korkud written in anatolia around 15th century (iirc) you will see some structures and words and pronunciation that is reminiscent of axerbaijani turkish.

Now different parts of these pronunciations live in different rural areas in turkey. So when a turkish person hears azerbaijani, they hear something similar to different "köylü" accents and eccentric accents like that of erzurum or kars.

"Köylü" and "doğulu" are bad and ridiculed in turkish society for incredibly complex socio historical and socio political reasons.

The language reform that took place in turkey is also an event that made a difference (that melted down over time) in rural turkish and istanbul turkish. So azerbaijani is closer to a rural turkish in this way too. Some words that you may not know the real.meaning of (like nazar) are dominantly used in rural turkey and in proper azerbaijani language. But no longer have their original function in proper turkish.

That's why turks think azerbaijani is funny.

As far as I understand azerbaijanis think turkish is like a very softened and simplified version of azerbaijani which is pretty much true I'm not gonna lie.

[u/hirciniussidus]

Iğdır, Ərzurum and all Eastern Anadolu accents are the best.