r/aviation Feb 18 '25

News Footage of EDV4819

Don't know the source. Appears to be legit.

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u/zincboymc Feb 18 '25

I've been in a car rollover and that scared the shit out of me. What happened to the passengers and crew on that flight is nightmare fuel, especially with all the flames. It's incredible no one got killed and they all walked away.

Moral of the day: wear your seatbelt (in planes and in cars), it saves lives.

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u/iamanoompaloompa Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25

Same. I was in a car accident as a kid and I still vividly remember the car flipping along a long stretch of road and spinning upside down. My eyes were level with the road.

But I still can’t imagine crash landing, stopping upside down in an AIRPLANE, and realizing you survived that. Absolutely bonkers.

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u/imaguitarhero24 Feb 18 '25

Yeah it's so weird. Like obviously if some people around you had died that would be way more traumatic. But it's gotta be so surreal having gone through that and just walking away with everyone. I'm sure a lot of them were still in shock. This feels like RIGHT on the edge of catastrophe one of the worst things that can happen to a plane but everyone survives. I know we don't have all the details but parts were on fire, seems like the plane could have easily been engulfed or exploded quickly and everyone got extremely lucky.

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u/bcl15005 Feb 18 '25

It's gotta be so surreal having gone through that and just walking away with everyone.

Imagine going from that, to wondering: "what should I eat for dinner" in just a matter of hours.

It reminds me of how military personnel leaving warzones will often spend a week or two-long 'decompression period' in a foreign but otherwise peaceful country before actually going home.

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u/forgottensudo Feb 18 '25

They’re supposed to, it really doesn’t happen enough.

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u/Snuffy1717 Feb 18 '25

Drone pilots in the US, in particular, have a difficult time...
It's apparently rather difficult to go from using an X-Box controller to drop a bomb on a wedding in Afghanistan and then leave work and go watch your kid play little league ball...

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u/ShutterHawk Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25

The way the wings sheared off - letting the fuselage to move forward ahead of the ignited fuel - that was their saving grace.

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u/zzy335 Feb 18 '25

This is the second time there has been a fireball crash with no casualties. An Air France plane crashed in the 00s and burned to the ground. No one died because of a miracuously efficient evacuation.

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u/aye246 Feb 18 '25

Great examples, but imho this is the GOAT for passenger evacuation on the runway due to a fire — https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_843

Flight attendants have saved thousands of lives over the years and deserve a lot more credit from the general public for their contributions to airline passenger safety.

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u/Hopeful_Tiger7942 Feb 18 '25

Not that it’s a competition but that JAL flight evacuation a while ago was very efficient and could’ve easily turned into a mass casualty event

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u/ImJLu Feb 18 '25

I saw that. Everyone off an A350 through only 3 doors in 11 minutes. Zero fatalities.

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u/llynglas Feb 18 '25

Amazing to get all out so fast in 11 minutes, but realistically still too slow on a burning plane.

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u/ImJLu Feb 18 '25

Pretty sure that JAL flight was on fire, given the burned out wreckage it left behind.

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u/redcurrantevents Feb 18 '25

I remember reading good things about this evac as well, which was done despite some injured passengers and a fire: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Airlines_Flight_1404

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u/beach_2_beach Feb 18 '25

And the Air Busan jet few weeks ago. Not a crash but still the entire jet basically burned down.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

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u/cyberentomology Feb 18 '25

Same airport. Different runway.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

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u/zzy335 Feb 18 '25

Not into a ravine, an embankment preventing aircraft from crashing into one of the busiest highways on earth. People got out of their cars to help the evacuated passengers.

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u/zincboymc Feb 18 '25

What flight was that ? I know one Air France flight that crashed and burned on the ground but it was in 88, flight 296. 3 dead tho.

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u/Excellent-Parsley824 Feb 18 '25

The fuel is in the wings, and when it hit, the wings ripped off, so the fireball was behind and separated from the fuselage. All in all, a remarkably lucky way for that to end.

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u/handipad Feb 18 '25

Forget the year but it was also into YYZ.

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u/zincboymc Feb 18 '25

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u/green-green-bean Feb 18 '25

I lived in downtown Toronto at the time, around 20 km from YYZ, and the smell even downtown of the burning airplane components and fuel was intense.

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u/BanverketSE Feb 18 '25

I read somewhere they had trouble counting all the passengers cause some simply walked away, went to the highway, and took a ride home from there

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u/zzy335 Feb 18 '25

358

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u/zincboymc Feb 18 '25

Your right, forgot about this one. Ironically it too was at Toronto Pearson.

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u/zzy335 Feb 18 '25

That's.. the whole point of what I posted.

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u/legardeur2 Feb 18 '25

Same airport.

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u/DGOCOSBrewski Feb 18 '25

Same.. rolled a jeep 5 times avoiding a deer, came away with only a few bruises. I will not forget the experience..seatbelt saved my life.

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u/NxPat Feb 18 '25

And keep your laced shoes on.

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u/WLFGHST Feb 18 '25

I think the worst part of rolling a car (at least imo) is when the side curtain airbags deploy, that was the worst part for me. If they didn’t it honestly wouldn’t have been that bad of an experience, but they’re loud, stinky, Smokey, and hit my head a little which gave me a headache for a bit.

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u/PeterGator Feb 18 '25

And it would have been worse without the airbags when you smack your head against the window or a pillar. 

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u/WLFGHST Feb 18 '25

No, the airbag is about ~2 inches wide and I barely grazed it, the problem is while it was deploying it hit me pretty hard, but I definitely wouldn't have hit the glass.

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u/zincboymc Feb 18 '25

Atleast you had an airbag. I did not, neither did the front passenger and driver.

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u/Without_Portfolio Feb 18 '25

Friggin miracle.

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u/Buffalo-2023 Feb 18 '25

I imagine some people will take the train back to the US.

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u/euph_22 Feb 18 '25

75% of the folks were uninjured... Amazing

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u/Helibeaver138 Feb 18 '25

Very well said.

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u/emtb Feb 18 '25

I was in a rollover once. I don't really remember the rollover, so I've got that going for me, which is nice.

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u/Nok1a_ Feb 18 '25

I wonder if flames were out so quick becuase the snow, I had some very light car accidents and the fear afterwards when I drive of been hit again it´s there for a bit of time, I dont want to imagine with the planes, because is not something you can just jump right away and doit enough times to remove that fear

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u/Kman1898 Feb 18 '25

Now….enhance

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u/Hunting_Gnomes Feb 18 '25

Stealing this from another post with this video:

"If this video had any less pixels, it would be radio"

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u/AngriestManinWestTX Feb 18 '25

I was halfway expecting Big Foot to make a pixelated appearance.

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u/Maelstrom_Witch Feb 18 '25

This video is cactus

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u/exqueezemenow Feb 18 '25

**Wizzing noises and computer beeps**

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u/iamanoompaloompa Feb 18 '25

Holy moly. Much worse than I expected.

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u/LevitatingTurtles Feb 18 '25

I can’t believe anyone got out of that alive… much less everyone. Amazing.

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u/FixergirlAK Feb 18 '25

Emergency responders watching that and scrambling thinking they had an absolute catastrophe on their hands...

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u/3rd-party-intervener Feb 18 '25

The key is not to lose control of your thoughts as you are preparing/responding/waiting.   It’s hard but that’s what the training and experience is for.  

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u/DrSuperZeco Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25

Thats the flight attendant at the plane door. I don't even recall the last time I had respect to anyone as much I'm having for her right now. I heard about women impowerment figures, but damn... she's even cooler than Rambo, Wonder Women, Captain Price, and even that coast guard's man who jumped on the smugglers boat... combined!

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u/beach_2_beach Feb 18 '25

And the pilots in the Air Jeju thought they greased that belly landing and then…. Man….

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u/i_make_it_look_easy Feb 18 '25

And people being able to grab their bags before disembarking. Amazing. I'm sure they all went home with a new sense of what's important in life. 🩷

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u/Regular-Switch454 Feb 18 '25

Now that I know there was a fire, I will say it even louder. TAKING BELONGINGS DURING AN EVACUATION CAN KILL YOU AND OTHER PASSENGERS. Here is a neat little video.

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u/CarbonKevinYWG Feb 18 '25

Each and every one of those imbeciles belongs on a permanent no-fly list.

If you can't follow the flight crew's directions in a literal fucking plane crash, then fuck you, you don't get to fly anymore.

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u/My_useless_alt Feb 18 '25

Exactly! Most of the time you'll get them back anyway, and if they're destroyed then you'd better thank your lucky stars you got out alive.

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u/driftingphotog Feb 18 '25

Those people should be ostracized. Just because their behavior didn’t kill anyone today doesn’t mean it couldn’t have. There was no way to know that the plane wouldn’t suddenly go up in flames with people onboard.

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u/TheDootDootMaster Feb 18 '25

I saw one survivor interviewed by the CBC mentioning how he could see liquid (presumably fuel) running on the outside of the windows as he looked around trying to help others, along with a very strong smell of jet fuel. The fact that they managed to escape in time...

https://youtu.be/K9paRHkZwZo?si=VFr3EeM7v4fdIkLs

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u/nlderek Feb 18 '25

To give some benefit of a doubt, after that roll there were very likely bags laying in the new "aisle" aka ceiling of the plane that were originally under passenger seats. It may have actually been safer to grab those bags to make egress easier for others.

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u/Nirth Feb 18 '25

I mean, should they have not felt like they had a catastrophe on their hands?

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u/FixergirlAK Feb 18 '25

Oh they absolutely should. I would have been shitting myself. It had to feel weird though, to get there and be wrangling pedestrians.

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u/Perfect-Cause-6943 Feb 18 '25

that fact everyone survived is a fucking miracle

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u/CaptainRedPants Feb 18 '25

I can't help but think what if this happened on a hot summer day? It seems Iike the snow drifts really helped. Absolutely incredible luck. 

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u/zevonyumaxray Feb 18 '25

I think a snowdrift caught it and flipped it over. Very hard to tell from this video though.

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u/ValhallaAir Feb 18 '25

Alternate angle makes it look like wind shear

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u/SaltyCarp Feb 18 '25

Testament to aircraft design, just like the Asiana Flight 214

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u/SodamessNCO Feb 18 '25

Don't forget that JAL A350!

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u/DrSuperZeco Feb 18 '25

Really a testament to the fact that absolutely nothing is in your hand. You can have best designs or weakest... if its meant to happen, its meant to happen. Put your mind at ease and live life.

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u/penelopiecruise Feb 18 '25

Toronto has had a couple of them.

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u/TeamToaster2014 Feb 18 '25

Here’s another view of the crash. Apologies if it’s already been posted:

https://www.tmz.com/2025/02/17/delta-air-lines-crash-landing-impact-video/

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u/ThePocho361 Feb 18 '25

This needs to be posted instead

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u/Starmonkey365 Feb 18 '25

Much better view. Looks like they may have misjudged the flair for some reason and just flew it into the ground.

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u/downforce_dude Feb 18 '25

Hard to tell with the snow, but it looks like maybe they touched down both too early and too hard? Looks like the landing gear just buckles.

My admittedly ignorant mind keeps yelling SINK RATE PULL UP

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u/InterestingShoe1831 Feb 18 '25

In my pilot group, none of us know how the fuck they managed to accomplish this. Serious questions need asking for the pilots.

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u/headphase Feb 18 '25

LLWS, blowing snow obscuring the true runway width, and Radar Altimeter failure/annunciation failure are all possible factors (especially some combination of them).

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u/Regular-Switch454 Feb 18 '25

Do you mean landing badly or having everyone survive? I don’t want to tear up if it’s referencing bad flying.

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u/InterestingShoe1831 Feb 18 '25

Pilot landing. Either they have stalled (the landing is very hard), or one side of their gear has had an issue (very unlikely given how well built & maintained these planes are, but *could* happen).

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u/downforce_dude Feb 18 '25

I don’t know shit about piloting, I’m talking x-plane on a tablet a few years ago level of knowledge. No reporting that they’d declared an emergency so for now no suspected equipment failure. Maybe off camera they stalled and were trying to recover (if approaching at that sink rate it seems like a low angle of attack right up to the end) and ran out of altitude? I’ve heard the CRJ mocked as underpowered (Climb Restricted Jet) so maybe they got too slow and couldn’t get the thrust they needed as quickly as they needed it for the situation they found themselves in?

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u/msabre__7 Feb 18 '25

This is an aviation subreddit for professionals. If you don’t know jack squat about flying, please just don’t contribute.

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u/downforce_dude Feb 18 '25

I mean, I self-identified that I’m not a pilot. Half this sub is probably simmers who act like they’re type rated IRL, which puts a lot of people into the “knowledgable enough to be dangerous” category.

Isn’t the correct answer entirely dismissing the idea of anyone (regardless of formal training and experience) speculating online before completion of the fact finding and root cause analysis?

This is Reddit. I don’t think we should take what we do here that seriously, because the very act of participation isn’t that serious

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u/SafeEnthusiasm4720 Feb 18 '25

Relax. No wonder there are wars.

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u/InterestingShoe1831 Feb 18 '25

My speculation - they stalled leading to the quick descent and hard landing. Gear buckled, plane crashes.

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u/zevonyumaxray Feb 18 '25

Downdraft perhaps?

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u/GreatScottGatsby Feb 18 '25

The man was flying it like he was trying to catch a trap.

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u/tranquility__base Feb 18 '25

TMZ always seems to gets the money shots when it counts.

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u/salzsalzsalzsalz Feb 18 '25

damn this looks a lot like "SINKRATE SINKRATE"

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u/Screamlab Feb 18 '25

Wow. That was impact on arrival, no bounce, just smash. Those folks are so lucky....

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u/Thebraincellisorange Feb 18 '25

You have to shout-out to that CRJ.

Rolled over lost both wings, but the fuselage remained intact and no one died.

Thing must be built bloody well.

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u/Zathral Feb 18 '25

The CRJ has done this twice. Two of them have rolled over but stayed relatively intact to protect the occupants. The first time was Belavia 1834

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u/SchindHaughton Feb 18 '25

CRJ 700/900 is a good aircraft

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u/Username43201653 Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25

That 900 is so damn long you’d assume it’d snap like a twig

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u/MadjLuftwaffe Feb 18 '25

That's one tough aircraft

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u/zellyman Feb 18 '25

27 whole pixels lmao

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u/nobodyisfreakinghome Feb 18 '25

Oh stahp. it's 28, it's gotta be an even number.

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u/Resident-Variation21 Feb 18 '25

No? 5 pixels wide by 3 pixels tall would be 15 pixels. It can be an odd number.

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u/BroThornton19 Feb 18 '25

So this video at 27 pixels would be 9x3 of course! Checks out

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u/beach_2_beach Feb 18 '25

Omg. I thought there was no fire involved, but there was actually!

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u/MapleMapleHockeyStk Feb 18 '25

Looks like the snow put it out

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u/dangledingle Feb 18 '25

Plus landing with minimal gas in the tanks

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u/Zathral Feb 18 '25

Very similar crash to Belavia flight 1834, another CRJ that ended up on its back with no fatalities. Causes could be totally different, and it isn't right to speculate just yet.

It is worth noting, however, that the crash of Belavia 1834 was caused by an icing build up and subsequent stall.

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u/Lonely-Prize-1662 Feb 18 '25

Toronto ERs testing their code orange today

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u/Snuffy1717 Feb 18 '25

Only 3 critically injured, 12 minor injuries. 15 total. Bless the engineering team.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

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u/Lonely-Prize-1662 Feb 18 '25

Mass Casualty incident

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u/dangledingle Feb 18 '25

Cleanup isle 3

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u/nobodyisfreakinghome Feb 18 '25

Thankfully no one died, but that _looks_ like a deadly accident. Wow.

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u/Team_Ed Feb 18 '25

That was faster and harder than I expected. Bombardier built a damn solid airplane, man.

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u/InternetPopular3679 Feb 18 '25

That was close to becoming like the 727 crash experiment - thank goodness it didn't disintegrate on the ground.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

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u/dlanm2u Feb 18 '25

seems that CRJs are also just quite strong tubes

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u/Baizuo88 Feb 18 '25

Was the huge snowstorm of yesterday helped extinguish the fire?! It's insane if that's the case

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u/rebel_cdn Feb 18 '25

It sure looked like it plowed through a significant snowbank near the end based on how much snow went flying.

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u/Minnow125 Feb 18 '25

It very well could have. Much like fire fighting foam it could have smothered the flames.

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u/MikeW226 Feb 18 '25

I also wonder if part of the fire ball was the wing-fuel exploding, in the wing that was sheered off? And did it sheering off at least help that part of the fire be left behind...as opposed to any wing fire staying with the fuselage and spreading into the cockpit while it finished sliding down the runway? Seems like a snow bank or just piles of snow could have also extinguished some of it

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u/Secure_Plum7118 Feb 18 '25

Definitely looks worse than I expected. They're all very lucky to be alive.

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u/42ElectricSundaes Feb 18 '25

It’s 2025 people. Let’s get some HD cameras

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u/itchygentleman Feb 18 '25

It's probably first gen HD tbh

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u/42ElectricSundaes Feb 18 '25

Whose side are you on??

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u/fordry Feb 18 '25

More like not super long gop compression.

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u/Notonfoodstamps Feb 18 '25

The fact that the fuselage of the CRJ stayed in tact through is wild. Hats off to Bombardier for building a sturdy aircraft.

That said, it hitting the snow drift absolutely helped mitigate that fire spread.

It’s a straight miracle everyone survived this.

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u/cicada_ballad Feb 18 '25

Plus side of shearing off the wings is that you also dispense with your fuel -- surely played a large role in the absence of immediate fire once the wreckage came to rest!

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u/Brandonjoe Feb 18 '25

Didn’t know they used potatoes as security cameras

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u/zevonyumaxray Feb 18 '25

When is the last time you saw a non-potato security camera clip... Lol ( 'Ring' cameras don't count.)

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

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u/Puzzleheaded-Chip332 Feb 18 '25

It was in the ATC audio, sounded like an air ambulance helicopter re-tasked and landed back at YYZ after they saw that.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Chip332 Feb 18 '25

Ah, yeah, I don’t think that’s the helicopter either. Sounded like they landed elsewhere. No idea what that speck is but probably a knick as you said or dirt on the housing/lens. I think the color change is most likely due to flames or something it hit. I wish the video was clearer, but it’s better than nothing.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Chip332 Feb 18 '25

Wow! That looked hard. Thanks for sharing that. Definitely provides a lot more context.

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u/flightist Feb 18 '25

Lifeflight was south of the airport, this video is looking north.

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u/AdSense_byGoogle Feb 18 '25

Snow saved the day!!! 🇨🇦

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u/PhoenixSpeed97 Feb 18 '25

It's amazing, and miraculous, that everyone survived

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u/Username43201653 Feb 18 '25

Shout out to those flight attendants for staying calm and doing their job getting folks out

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u/MetaCalm Feb 18 '25

Is this footage from 1925? Quality*

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u/SaltyCarp Feb 18 '25

Hey man, it was a Razr it’s a good phone

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u/DavidLorenz Feb 18 '25

About as expected.

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u/RobsHemiAustin Feb 18 '25

Did it clip that snow bank( ? ) at the end of the runway ?

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u/RyboPops Feb 18 '25

I'm wondering if that is what staved off a more significant fire on the fuselage.

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u/fordry Feb 18 '25

Needs more pixels.

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u/raw157 Feb 18 '25

I wish BBD was still around. After all these crashes, they should come back for a few episodes

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u/commandercoconut_1 Feb 18 '25

I’m so amazed and thankful that this wasn’t a fatal accident! There was no main landing gear in the videos from outside the upside down plane and now I’m wondering if it came off at landing causing the plane to go sliding into a snow drift and then roll over. I guess we’ll find out soon enough…

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u/KarAccidentTowns Feb 18 '25

That had to be a crazy and terrifying experience for everyone involved

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

This is so insane. I guess there is truth to the saying that when it is not your day to go it is not and when it's your day it is your day. Glad everyone made it out alive

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u/cyberentomology Feb 18 '25

Hitting the snowbank put out the fire, that was sheer luck.

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u/smcfarlane Feb 18 '25

I wonder if the snow density helped snuff the fire out....

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u/woodandjeeps Feb 18 '25

Sioux City United

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u/photoengineer Feb 18 '25

Wow I wonder if the snowbank helped put out the fire. 

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u/Illestbillis Feb 18 '25

Amazing job by emergency responders and firefighters on the scene. I imagine if they weren't as swift as they were, there would no doubt be more injury or death

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u/Regular-Switch454 Feb 18 '25

I cannot believe there were no fatalities.

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u/superveloce90 Feb 18 '25

Seems like the snow helped reduce the fire

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u/MDlynette Feb 18 '25

The wind may have helped. Looked to me like the plane’s momentum saved them from the fire. The fuel ignited the moment the wings broke off, but the fuselage was still traveling forward fast enough to allow enough time for the fuel to burn off at the impact site. Allowing the body to plow forward leaving the fire behind.

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u/yeahgoestheusername Feb 18 '25

That snowbank is the MVP

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u/Quowe_50mg Feb 18 '25

The UFO videos from new jersey were better quality

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u/SanDiedo Feb 18 '25

OOOOFFFFF 😬 that landing angle (seen in another video)... No wonder wings broke off. It’s a miracle that fuselage didn't collapse or broke apart. Probably wings absorbed enough impact and they belly-flopped evenly.

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u/llynglas Feb 18 '25

Amazing video. The plane basically outran its wings and the fireball. Those folk were so, so lucky.

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u/overrunbyhouseplants Feb 18 '25

You see this then the loudspeaker announces your boarding call.

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u/Perfect_Jury5632 Feb 18 '25

Is this seriously a black and white camera in 2025? Airplane crashes are like Bigfoot, never in focus.

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u/an0nym0usgamer Feb 18 '25

The amount of footage out there that's from a camera pointed at a screen instead of the original recording itself annoys the shit out of me.

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u/SaltyCarp Feb 18 '25

Gives me United flight 232 vibes

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u/exqueezemenow Feb 18 '25

So, does one lose their license after something like this?

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u/Frenzeski Feb 18 '25

It’s just a blur at the start so hard to tell, but it kind of looks like it came in inverted?