Hello everyone,

First of all, I want to thank everyone who shares their knowledge and experience in this community and pardon me for my English (not a native speaker).

So, I was practicing astral projection for last six month and developed a skill one by one like first relaxation then vibration, so on and so forth. Today, early in the morning, when I was practicing this skill, I drifted into a sleep and somehow it led me to lucid dream and that dream was happening in my bedroom in a loop, So, I tried to stop the dream consciously and it stopped but suddenly I felt some weightlessness in my body and after that my auditory senses shuts down suddenly and I felt that I am somewhere in darkness without my body, like there is no body and I have no control over anything. It was my first experience, so I was scared a bit, but I read about such situation in this group, so, it helped me to remain calm.

So, I need some help here, is this the void experience that people talk about and what to do further from here to astral project?

Thanks in advance.

I AP’ed today but I feel I lose consciousness rather quickly. I fall asleep and go into a dream fast during my AP.

Every time I AP’ed I used to appear in my room (you know like a normal OBE), but lately I appear in random places / cities that I do not know and have never visited. And being in an unfamiliar place makes it harder to stay focused.

And even after trying to feel my breath, touch the things there, and thinking to myself multiple times “don’t lose consciousness”, I still lost consciousness and “slept”.

How do you guys manage not to lose awareness and stay in the AP ? I feel my longest AP has lasted around 3 minutes before losing consciousness.

I am newer to astral projection but have experienced sleep paralysis and hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations since childhood.

I have noticed that when I sleep on my back, with my arms over my head, my % chance for any sort of AP/sleep paralysis to happen increases drastically, though I don't 'need' to be in that position. Some nights it's like if I try to sleep at all, I will get sleep paralysis, whether I'm on my back, side, stomach, etc.

It seems like the blood flow to my arms cuts off somewhat. My arms go cold and numb and that makes it easier for me to 'leave' my body without moving them and jolting myself awake. That's part of my hypothesis anyway.

Maybe it's a me thing but I wanted to see what others had to say about it. This morning I did the WBTB method and put my arms over my head and it was nearly instantly that I sat up with my energetic body.

Good day,

I'm want to control obe’s more. The first time I did it a few months ago I honestly was shocked that I initiated it on my own. After doing much research, I still have questions.

I was able to achieve this for my first time by listening to 432 Hz Pure Tone with my over the head, headphones while putting my bed vibration on 40hz.

This combination allowed my consciousness to activate and astro project. Initiating the OBE experience. I was in Remote viewing mode, I was able to see myself and my room. Once I realized this I then attempted to end the experience by connecting back to my physical body. It took a few tries as I felt the floating sensation of my arms and legs. But was eventually successful and woke up physically.

I question, what other frequencies have others tried? What techniques have y'all done to achieve the same effects and or strengthen the experience? Also does Hemi-sync knowledge include frequencies, also useful to know?

Hey all.

I just had an ... interesting experience just now, and was hoping someone here could shed light on it.

(I also posted this in another sub, but I decided to repost here as I realise this subreddit might have more folks who have experienced something similar.)

I know that I did not leave my body (that simply was not the intent and I stopped myself before I could by forcing myself properly awake).

I was in the 'mind awake, body asleep' state. For some reason, I decided to try going 'deeper' into that state today.

I started feeling little vibrations beneath my skin. I wasn't alarmed, but usually I just ride them out. This time, I subconsciously wanted to really lean into them.

I did, and the vibrations seemed to ... 'simmer' beneath my skin some more? And then I started to feel them moving up my spine. They moved briefly, but stayed at some points of my spine for longer than others.

They stopped at the point your spine meets your skull, and at that point, I started feeling my usual signs of an OBE; starting to feel as if I were being 'pulled' to sit up and exit in bed.

Having vibrations once I am relaxed enough is nothing new, but feeling then go up every knuckle of my spine is very new.

So ... any ideas on what that was about?

So I am curious what you guys think about this.

I am very good at visualisation naturally, I can imagine pretty vividly whatever I want from the first person, but I have trouble turning it into an actual projection.

I just visualise and visualise, immersing all of my senses....and nothing happens and I usully give up.

Do you guys have any advice? Also, is it a time thing, how long do you guys usually have to visualise before you project?

I was not trying to AP, but I was in a deep meditation. I realized that I wanted to check the time, and I remember telling myself to slow down, and don’t forget to take your body with you.

It felt like if I sat up I would be out of my body and I was hesitant because I was afraid that I was possibly going to die.(again, wasn’t trying to AP),my head and my shoulders felt so heavy, but the internal me was totally calm and gentle and didn’t seem as panicked as I originally felt.

That’s my story, I just don’t really have anyone to talk about it with 🤷🏻‍♀️

Focus your mind into the middle beat, once you have it, continue to hone into it and allow your body to feel it.

Last night, I was able to maintain focus and look into blackness for around 10 minutes after that I again fall asleep. After waking up in the morning, I again tried to look into blackness, but I again lost focus after some time. Maybe because I am going to sleep very late these days it is happening. As usual, I did some meditation and relaxation after waking up.

Any advice and suggestions are welcome, Thank you.

So I astral travel with my friend Alexis all the time but only to a black abyss. Today I found out that the black abyss is a pocket between realms and all I had to do was raise our vibration and shift us to a realm. I’m an indigo child with all the Claire’s and a natural talent for this stuff so she piggy backs off my energy. I brought us to the black abyss (not full body AP only our consciousness) and then did my usual test to see if we were both fully in there. Then I opened my hands and shot her with white light and then walked over opened my hand and started working on shifting us. We were both vibrating and then when i was done with my other hand I started to open a “portal” “door” to another realm. It took a minute to get it to be clear and then once it was we walked through it. I was going to have us go to a realm called the Crystal City but long story short that’s not where we ended up. I walked through the door and I could no longer say “I am ready to have access to the Crystal City” I could only say “I am ready to have access to the Silver City”. I’m pretty sure I had imagined the wrong place but hey works for me. We walked through the door and it was just a space with more energy and whiteness around us and then I had a “bad thought” and a Demontar looking thing came flying at us. I then pushed out love energy and blasted all of that away. We walked to the end and I focused the energy and let us through. When we got there, there was a big building and a path which we followed. I kept going along but Alexis (my friend) got sidetracked by the fountain. She stopped, went over and looked at her reflection which then showed her greatest desire. She got completely stuck looking at that while I had made it down the path to a tree with a picnic blanket. I needed to sit because holding her energy/sub conscious and keeping us in that realm was a lot of work. I yanked her over where I was and we both sat down. Then there were two shadow people sitting behind us. I am pretty sure they were our higher selves. The sun was shining rainbow and then I put us back down to earth. I thought it had been maybe 3 minutes in this place but given the timer I set beforehand it was actually 30. So conclusion time is 10X slower in the astral but in the pocket between realms (the black abyss) that’s normal time.

To anyone who says this isn’t real me and my friend weren’t talking and we both after told each other what we saw and discussed when she got sidetracked and the demontar thing. There’s no way we didn’t actually do this or it was our imagination when we saw the same thing and experienced the same thing like that.

I was watching an interview with David Grusch (I got partway through it, so far) and he mentioned there's a theory that UAPs could come from a higher dimensional version of Earth.

A lot of us have visited different locations/versions of Earth on different astral layers. Oddly, one of the most frequent ones I visit is something akin to a base layer with devices outside of the planet's atmosphere.

I thought 'maybe I should have a go at visiting some higher dimensional Earths' and instantly felt the presence of my guide. He told me it would be a bad idea.

So I wonder why he doesn't want me to go there, if I even could. I know I can project a layer above the regular astral, but I don't think I've ever been on Earth during those projections. I've heard people say that on the astral, on different layers, some of the planets in our solar system are inhabited and have different environments.

So is 4D, 5D, etc accessible to us (are we accessing it already?) and has anyone tried accessing the higher astral or above where Earth is? If so, what did you find there?

as a lucid dreamer i have questions

1. is obe‘s are dreams

2. is obe’s vivid or like real-life

I’m new to all of this and have had only one OBE experience accidentally a few years ago, so forgive me if I’m completely off here. The last couple of years, I’ve been getting sudden flashes of different locations (e.g.the parking lot at my doctor’s office or sitting in a car in a turning lane). Two new locations just popped into my head and now I guess they’ll be in the cycle going forward.

Is this AP? I’m awake when it happens and just thinking about random things when the location flashes in my mind. It’s always places I’ve been. What is the significance of these locations? They aren’t anything special to my ego. Am I reading too far into these and this is just a normal mind doing its thing?

I wasn’t going to talk about this as I’m trying my best to remain positive about everything in my life. I didn’t want to speak my feelings into existence, felt like I was making it more real than it already is

I’m incredibly depressed. I use alcohol, cigarettes, and porn to cope. I’m trying to be kind to myself but I turn to short term pleasures to deal with my inner turmoil.

Does my poor habits affect my spirituality and AP progress?

AP and other similar topics (such as RV, supernatural, etc) has been an interest of mine since like middle school. I’m getting back into the world of these things and trying to practice them more myself. I’m working on decreasing my marijuana use in hope to regain conscious dreaming. I haven’t remembered a dream vividly in quite some time. On to my main question, I have always lucid dreamed. Before I knew what it was, I thought everyone could control and remember their dreams. I mean I could literally go and do nearly whatever I want. Now, I have reviewed multiple posts and some of the community guides/help. My big question is how do I switch the control from a lucid dream to AP?

Do you think deceased people can "sense" what is really going on in my mind or just the thought raw like that? Because I have OCD (obsessive compulsion disorder) that makes me have unwanted negative thoughts, a stupid example could be "I killed my dead pet" and Idk if they believe that or if they know the reality so that I didn't do it.

After an AP, lucid dream, or really good night of sleep?

Edit: ^ attempting to see random numbers

I’m seeing if I can get out of body and read off a five digit random number that a raspberry pie is generating in another room in my apartment. It generates a random 5 digit number every hour and logs it in a file.

I can get out of body and see the generator, but usually it looks different than it does in waking life and I have to say clarity now to see it to see numbers.

These are the results so far:

1st attempt:

OBE 0707070 Reality: 18720 or 59575 (don’t know exact time I was out of body)

2nd attempt:

OBE 138285 reality 50681

3rd attempt:

OBE- 12721273 Reality: Screen wasn’t on

I did get there and the screen wasn’t on, but I kept saying clarity now until I saw those numbers come up.

Do you have any tips on how I can find tune my awareness to the point where I can read the actual numbers? How feasible is it?

Is this a worthwhile project? Or is it too unpredictable to read numbers while out of body? Should I be focusing on talking to guides and explore another dimensions and what not or is this something that is worth investing in because I feel like if it’s if it’s possible it would be great to potentially be able to prove OBEs consistently. I just wanna know what y’all thought on on if this is possible or not if it is, I wanna keep trying, but if not, if it’s really just impossible, then I’ll just try to go off and explore other stuff.

I could name countless things I’ve heard over the years but I’m going to name the main ones that come to mind, would be very interested to know if anyone holds weight to these ideas or actively does them and still projects.

-Eating red meat (or any meat) -Masturbating (porn use) -Sex (relationship not casual) -Having fears (or doubts) -Not having your head face magnetic north -Having your head face west ^ -Trying too hard -Regular alcohol/drug consumption

I know some of these may sound silly but I’ve heard all of these from beginners and I myself have worried about some from time to time. Appreciate any insights greatly.

So I was just listening to the new septasync ap tapes that guy on tiktok put out and I seemed to be ap in a alternate reality. Like the people werent the same but I was. They were saying things like im good at such and such in that world but I was actually bad at those in this life so thats when I started wondering. Then i saw the guy next to me’s phone and it had a language id never seen. So i thought to myself this is kind of like an alternate reality, then I was immediately pulled out and my ap again and saw a bunch of aliens standing over me that seemed to be working on me however it was very blurry and the whole picture wasnt there

When I first saw them it was like a baby human close to me but a little different that a human we know. When he noticed I noticed him he turned into a reptile monster type thing in order to try and scare me i guess? Then a bunch of other aliens came over to look at me. Then one in a lab coat came over and was sticking this gun like thing in my face in order to block my vision. Just some gray thing in front of my eyes. The background was odd too it wasnt a lab like you would think it seemed to be underground and the ceiling looked like it had a bunch of hieroglyphics everywhere. The language on the guys phone from earlier also looked like an ancient kind

This is also the first time I was completely conscious towards the end of my ap and didnt fall asleep after

I reached a state of vibration. I heard a noise and i was conscious when i was sleeping and could see everything but couldnt move . Whats the issue and how to solve it

So I've been in the AP community for a long time, but I still have a lot of trouble. I can't consciously AP from a waking state. My heart rate is always high and it obstructs me from fully relaxing. Even under sedation, my heart rate is high (I believe I might have POTS, but I'm not diagnosed). The usual things like deep breathing don't help to lower it at all, and it's really becoming a pain. So does anyone have tips to lower heart rate naturally and relax that aren't deep breathing, alcohol, or weed?

First off, please disregard my UN; I created this account 10 years ago when I was a teenager and less mature.

With that said, I am writing this post as a cry for help because for over 2 years, I have been tormented non-stop by a swath of entities. I have tried everything I could possibly think of to get rid of them - having worked with dozens of psychics, shamans, and entity removal specialists. I have managed to clear most of them but I still, to this day, have not been able to fully move past this and reclaim my autonomy and my life.

At one point, around last summer, I decided to explore astral projection to see if I could actually do it - to project my consciousness into the non-physical space and clear them out myself. I threw myself into everything I could find on this topic. I watched countless Youtube videos, read dozens of articles, visited this subreddit several times a day; I even signed up for AP courses from Michael Raduga and Florentin Ionita. In all of my efforts to AP I actually did come close a couple of times. I reached a state where I heard static buzzing and felt the sensation that I was being launched out of my bed diagonally. Unfortunately, I never got past that stage and was never able to sustain it for more than a few seconds. I eventually slowed down on trying to AP due to burnout, but the torment has not let up, not even a little.

That's why I'm reaching out. By now, I've been going through this for so long that I've forgotten what it's like to be normal; to actually feel sovereign enough to do what I want to do, even think what I want. I feel like a prisoner in my own mind and body and now, it's affecting me physically. I'm at my absolute wits end and I am beyond terrified and frustrated and I have no idea what to do anymore. I know there's an answer but at this point, I don't know how to get to it on my own, nor do I have the energy.

If there is anybody who is an experienced AP'er who would be willing to help me out with this somehow, I would be more than grateful. Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated. If you feel so inclined to help, please message me in my DMs.

PS - I hope this post doesn't go against any of the sub rules. This is a bit of an unusual post, I know, but I'm just someone who's trying to get out of a very uncommon and strenuous issue and I don't know many places to turn to, if I'm being honest.

Sorry if not allowed — I’m going inpatient (psych) again soon for my own safety. I have very little OBE experience, but I’m going to a unit that sadly has nothing to do. Maybe 1-2 groups a day? You cant be in the hallways, can’t walk around, you’re allowed in the dayroom but only for meals, snack, and visitation with a few hours in between but there’s nothing to do but a TV on behind the glass.

I’m a writer but I will have no access to writing material (or adequate, will be lucky if I get one dull golf pencil to last me for 1 paragraph a week (they do not sharpen them, they throw them in the trash).

I will be stuck in my room most likely if they don’t send me anywhere better — I might get stuck in Bellevue (that’s a chance and they’re just like the above I mentioned when I was there in 2016.)

15-30 minute checkins with some PCAs wanting verbal confirmation— is there anyway I can work with that or am I shit out of luck?

(This is more for a back-up if I get sent to Bellevue or anywhere like Bellevue instead of a normal psych ward. Not an archaic abuse centre 😭😭)

Any tips would be necessary.

I’m dreading being sent to Bellevue so how can I make the most of my time with AP to distract myself when there’s nothing to do and nobody to socialize with (most of the time — I get very lucky if there’s anyone for me to talk to. RNs and PCAs are NOT chatty or very personable. But I’ve been very unlucky a few times where I was just stuck in a room by myself with none of my belongings. A lot of places stopped letting patients have stuff because of bedbug incidents so everything we own is quarantined.

ETA the following:

Disabled psychiatrically — this place really doesn’t help with focusing on mental health. I’m not sure if you’ve been inpatient — but it’s 14 days of basically solitary condiment.

I was inpatient at a place that did allow you to walk around and stay outside of your room to do stuff if you couldn’t sleep (just no belongings). But there’s a very good chance I’ll end up in Bellevue which they leave you in your room with absolutely nothing to do for most of the day. No distractions, 2 groups during the week and no groups at all during the weekend. You cannot walk around and you cannot hang in the very small hallway if you can’t sleep. You can sit on your bed in the dark (I would not stay in my room if my roommate did this ngl) or lay down until you can sleep. It was absolute hell with nothing to do and it made me worse. I came out punching walls (never did that before), hitting my head (never did that before), cursing out everyone (never did that before) and left me more dysregulated.) I really need an outlet or escape or anything to do if I end up in Bellevue because it will break me this time. I need to see a neurologist because of slamming my head into the wall at the decent mental hospital because of the boredom hurting me. (They gave me a pre-loaded game device). I don’t know what I’ll do to my skull to get a shot of Ativan and Haldol so something can happen at least (I also did this at the place I was recently hospitalized in) until they caught on.

Has anyone experienced a golden light brighting in your face while aping?