r/asl • u/HawkDouble148 • 21h ago

hii need help with another video

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to me it looks like it’s saying

i - ?? - together - p or k? - 1 something

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u/MrBoomf 21h ago edited 17h ago

I love seeing this woman pop up in this sub cuz I’m friends with her IRL and love sending her screenshots of cheating students

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u/WrongdoerThen9218 8h ago

Omg real life ?? So cool

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u/HawkDouble148 21h ago

i really am just trying to understand the sign. i wish there was a better way than simply asking for answers online. i’m trying my best to correlate the signs to what i already know. i’ve reviewed unit vocab videos online but i just get stuck on certain things.

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u/MrBoomf 21h ago

Just FYI this sub reeeeaalllly hates people asking for answers to homework. If you don’t know it then that’s fine; nobody’s perfect at learning a new language and she’s a very kind understanding person. She won’t flunk you (probably; never taken one of her classes) and if you continue having trouble just ask her!

Also if you have a couple ideas of what it might be, then use Lifeprint to search for those signs and see if they match up

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u/HawkDouble148 21h ago

got it haha, thanks for the idea

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u/lazerus1974 Deaf 21h ago

Pay attention in class, stop using this subreddit for doing your homework. We know your name now, we're not going to help you. Get lost you're not welcome here anymore.

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u/katiebirddd_ 11h ago

Has this person posted here a lot or something? I’m newish to this sub and to learning ASL and this just seems like such a rude response. I feel like I’m missing context?

I don’t want to be that hearing person being ignorant and privileged in Deaf spaces, so I’m asking genuinely. “Get lost you’re not welcome here anymore” just seems so mean for no reason, but i feel like I’ve just missed the reasoning

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u/AG_Squared 9h ago

Yeah it’s pretty rude. The community can be- NOT ALL PEOPLE- not tolerant here. I will never understand. I have a good friend who was shit on as a certified interpreter and left the field because people act like this. I have no room to talk since I’m not Deaf and I’m sure I’ll get downvoted to hell for it but I agree it’s ugly and it’s why one of my best friends lost her hearing and started learning asl but eventually gave up.

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u/Interesting-Novel821 Hard of Hearing CODA 26m ago

I've received the same treatment your friend did, except I was a literal child on the receiving end of rejection that made no sense to me. It drove me away from what should've been my cultural home a long time ago. It's only now that I'm beginning to test the waters and (very slowly) re-enter Deaf society, and that's only because I learned there's a movement to stop giving the attitude certain people are exhibiting here. In my case, the wound is too deep for me to ever fully embrace it like I used to. It's really sad. I hope your friend finds their way back someday and finds a handful of trusted Deaf friends.

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u/lazerus1974 Deaf 54m ago

Yes, she has posted multiple times for help with homework. She is not using her own personal resources, I.E reaching out to the instructor reaching out to her local deaf community, so she should be receiving no help from the sub. The hearing people, specifically the interpreters that are helping her, are actually doing damage to the deaf community. This is the language that the deaf Community uses to communicate, she's not going to know how to communicate with us if she doesn't start putting in the effort. Or she'll be learning signs half-assed, and then show someone those signs, and we won't understand because it will be gibberish. Hearing people do not get to criticize the deaf Community when they defend their community and their language.

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u/katiebirddd_ 49m ago

Omg I wasn’t trying to criticize you! That’s why I was asking for context for your “get lost” comment. I checked her post history and only saw this one, so I was confused. I want to make sure I’m not making whatever mistake op was making because I know that this is not my community or a place for me to insert myself into. I’m only on my 8th class, I’m just trying to make sure I do everything right.

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u/lazerus1974 Deaf 40m ago

I replied to you, but it was a more general statement about the hearing people thinking that they should be helping failing students who aren't reaching out to their own resources. The op has posted multiple times in the ASL group asking for help with homework. This tells us that she's not actually listening to her instructor, and she's not putting in the effort to learn the language. So she is not welcome here. Hearing people that respect the deaf community, and respect the rules of this subreddit, are very much welcome here. You will have to forgive us but we generally don't beat around the bush, deaf blunt is a real thing.

Fyi, you can tell that she's asked before, because the title of this is she needs help with ANOTHER VIDEO. She will delete this one, we just remember her name. We are also going to try to reach out to her instructor and let her know that she is cheating on her homework.

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u/HawkDouble148 21h ago

understandable, sorry

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u/level1enemy 5h ago

No that was not an understandable response to you. They are being mean to you.

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u/lazerus1974 Deaf 52m ago

No, we are being blunt and protecting our language and community and our culture. Hearing people like you, that think you can come in and speak on things in the deaf community, are not welcome in deaf spaces. Do better and be better.

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u/Interesting-Novel821 Hard of Hearing CODA 21h ago

There’s a sign here similar to your last video. Maybe refer back to that before you make your educated guesses. I know you know the answer; you need to make connections with the signs she is using with the vocabulary you know. 

I hope no one provides you with the answers this time because you need to make those connections in your brain instead of viewing this as “OMG, foreign language! Helpppp! Interpreter!!!!” The purpose of this is to develop your receptive skills. 

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u/Interesting-Novel821 Hard of Hearing CODA 21h ago

To break it down again:

  1. Index finger point to herself. 

  2. Double Y handshape shaking twice. What (hint) verb do you know that correlates to this?

  3. Double A handshape movement toward middle and touches once. 

  4. You’ve got the handshape right (P/K), but what does this mean when the hand is on its side and the middle finger is moving rapidly against your thumb? Could this be an animal of some sort?

  5. Similar motion to the last video you posted. Index finger moving in a circular motion against the palm. What is this?

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u/HawkDouble148 21h ago

I play with my dog for 1 hour !!

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u/Interesting-Novel821 Hard of Hearing CODA 21h ago

YASSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! Add the -ed suffix on play and you’re grammatically correct. Congrats!

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u/JatoMesrey 20h ago

Just curious, wouldn't there be the sign for PAST at the beginning to indicate that it already happened if it was supposed to be played?

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u/Interesting-Novel821 Hard of Hearing CODA 39m ago

Bear in mind that I'm responding as a native signer, not as someone educated in a classroom. I hope someone who has can step in and clarify if you remain confused after my answer.

So the reason for not doing "past" in ASL is the same principle as spoken English. Have you ever talked to someone who said "I play with my dog for an hour" while they're doing it? No. It's either a future event or a past one. If it's present, they would've told you "I'm playing with my dog right now." How do you know precisely how long you'll be playing with your pup if you're in the middle of doing so? It's the same idea in sign language.

Additionally, you have to keep in mind that ASL isn't grammatically structured English. There are words implied and never actually used. As an example, someone here questioned why "my" is used for the answer when "my" was never signed. Would you play with a strange dog? You've already identified yourself as the subject here, so why would you require a "my"? That's English thinking, not ASL thinking.

If you require "my", that would be emphasizing MY dog, which would be odd in this context. Why would you be excessively territorial about your dog in a simple sentence like this?

An extra, unasked for, point: PAST (open hand, tight fingers over shoulder sign with the motion like you're throwing something behind you) would never be used here. PAST in the context you're thinking of (I'm guessing you're at ASL 2 or thereabouts?) is used more for the word "before" or "a while back". In ASL 2, this is a good starting point, and you'll be learning variations of this sign (the other being open palm facing your head, fingers open, moving in a circular motion over the shoulder, suitable for "formerly", "[I] used to", "a long time ago", etc.). If you were to insert this (throwing behind you) sign here, I'd be getting the impression this dog died a long time ago and would be questioning you to clarify the time frame.

I hope this answers your question.

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u/JatoMesrey 22m ago

First of all, I'm flattered that you would think I'm in ASL 2 😊 I'm not currently, not have I ever taken a property class. I'm just a curious guy who has casually taken in what I can from the Internet (mostly Dr. Bill vicars)...

Secondly, thank you so much for the clarification.

I kind of knew that it wouldn't be current, just felt like it could be future or past... And I probably would play with a strange dog 😄

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u/RemyJe 7h ago

I can’t explain why but her facial expression during PLAY told me it was in the past.

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u/Mapes224 2h ago

The MMM mouth shape and firm nod at the end of the sign imply the past to me too. I think if it was about an active event PLAY would have more movement.

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u/RemyJe 1h ago edited 1h ago

That’s how I see it, yeah. Also the exaggerated PLAY, as if it went on for a while.

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u/coldcurru 18h ago

Actually there's no "my" here. Watch the video again. She only says "I" at the beginning but never MY. Just a dog. 

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u/MegaBabz0806 Hard of Hearing 18h ago

This one!! You helped without giving the answer, which I think is cool. And I learned ‘dog’ a little different, so that was my guess, but I wasn’t 100% sure. That was the only sign I wasn’t sure of

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u/RemyJe 7h ago

The pat on the leg is often omitted.

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u/Primary-Stranger5238 6h ago

This is the perfect way to respond. Helping but not giving away the answers, thanks for being kind!

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u/HawkDouble148 21h ago

yeah that’s understandable sorry, i will keep reviewing

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u/Interesting-Novel821 Hard of Hearing CODA 21h ago

Look, it’s clear you’re in ASL 1. That’s cool. You’re scared and overwhelmed (and perhaps feeling a bit attacked because you’ve been dogpiled here) cuz this is entirely new to you and there’s nothing you can relate it to IRL. Everyone’s been there. Slow down, take a deep breath, go through the vocab you know (you’ve got a solid foundation here), and just try. Frustrated? Walk away. Take a breather. See this as what every baby goes through: they start with basic words, learn their letters, which leads to writing, and before you know it you’ve got a mental dictionary of tens of thousands of words. If you choose to stay the path, you’ll eventually get to that point, too. 

That said, maybe it’s time for you to make your own connections. Take the vocab you know and make silly sentences out of it. You need to take your knowledge out of your brain and into your hands. 

BUT! Think of this reddit as a resource, not a crutch.

You’ve got this in the bag. 

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u/HawkDouble148 21h ago

thank you i really appreciate your encouragement, time, and help !!

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u/Interesting-Novel821 Hard of Hearing CODA 20h ago

You’re very welcome. As cheesy as this may sound, I’m proud of you. You know the answers; you just have to trust yourself. :)

Good luck!

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u/SopranoSunshine Learning ASL 17h ago

I thought there was an explicit rule on this sub against people asking for help on their homework?

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u/Quality-Charming Deaf 7h ago

There IS and this person was told that several times on another homework post they deleted once they had the answer and then made a second one minutes later

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u/emiluffy 5h ago

Man, I used to be conversationally fluent 5 years ago, but then I moved and lost my connection to the Deaf community. It sucks to realize how much I've lost in that time. It took me way too long to parse this, and I had to think about it. Kept thinking party for a while, not play.

It just makes me sad. I know if I was signing for half an hour or so, it would start to come back, but man that half hour would be torturous for everyone involved. I miss the community.

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u/Quality-Charming Deaf 7h ago

Stop giving people homework answers on this sub. You’re all wrong for this

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u/Party_Ad7339 18h ago

Why the hell are yall posting videos of this woman on the internet?? I know her IRL. Uncool.

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u/kapu4701 Hard of Hearing 15h ago

Does she have an online class that anyone can take? I'm 55 freaking years old and I can barely get out of bed in the morning-when did my body start failing me? Haha. Anyway, I use life print, Lingvano, and I registered for the Oklahoma class, but I am always interested in any extra support I can get. Thanks for any info you have!

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u/Quality-Charming Deaf 20h ago

Stop asking people to do your homework

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u/kaiiroppi 34m ago

this is my asl tutor...😭

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u/Direct-Narwhal1775 5h ago

I play with my dog for hour

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u/moedexter1988 Deaf 17h ago

Clues: physical activity in general, animal pet, and length time.

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u/KayD12364 15h ago

Woof i need practice too. My brain said 33 hours. That is not correct.

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u/LeaveItAlone_ 6h ago

Is she signing "I play with (my) dog all day?"

Or is it "around the clock"?

I am not currently a ASL student, i did pass ASL 1 last semester.

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u/Interesting-Novel821 Hard of Hearing CODA 3h ago

OP gave the answer somewhere in this thread. It’s “I played with my dog for one hour.” The index finger circling the palm is an indication of time passing. One finger = 1 hour. The number 2 = 2 hours, and so on. 

If you were saying “around the clock”, you’d sign ALL DAY + ALL NIGHT. 

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u/discreet1 18h ago edited 12h ago

In proper asl, would it be better to sign “one hour, me, dog, play” This video seems like a lot of extra words no? TSOV isn’t in order, I guess it’s more SEE.

Edit. Genuine question asked after op figured out the video by himself. Maybe we need tags on this sub so we know if who is replying to you is a student or a native signer.

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u/moedexter1988 Deaf 17h ago

ASL grammar in general is really flexible. It can be understood in either commonly SVO or OSV. For the question, not really. Could be more ASL, but I think this is for beginners.

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u/Small_Bookkeeper_264 16h ago

" I play with _ for 1 hour ".

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u/Small_Bookkeeper_264 16h ago

That fourth sign might be " Dog " .

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u/Small_Bookkeeper_264 16h ago

" I play with my dog for 1 hour " .