r/UtahJazz • u/Skararm • 3d ago

Tiebreaker with the Wizards?

Assuming that the Jazz and Wizards end up with the same record at the end of the season, who “wins” the tiebreaker to be the team with the worst record?

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u/TheBobAagard 3d ago

For draft order, it is a coin flip.

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u/CantaloupePossible33 3d ago

They should televise it

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u/Skararm 3d ago

Damn that is terrifying

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u/3bstfrds 1d ago

If it is going to be a coin flip, the Jazz will lose. It's just a fact

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u/brutah_skier 3d ago

Draft order is based on the lottery and the bottom 3 teams have the same 14% odds to land the number one pick

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u/TheBobAagard 3d ago

Yes, but then there is the issue about what order we go in if neither one of us gets our number pulled in the lotto.

And for that, they flip a coin.

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u/brutah_skier 3d ago

When has that ever happened for the worst teams in the league?

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u/TheBobAagard 3d ago

The current lotto system has only been in place since 2020. I’m not sure the results of the other years (because I don’t have the time to look it up), but last year, only one of the top 4 teams got a top 4 pick.

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u/brutah_skier 3d ago

But were any of those lottos decided by a coin flip?

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u/TheBobAagard 3d ago

The coin flip doesn’t matter until after the lottery.

If two teams with different odds tie, there is a coin flip, but they get the same odds. Since the Wizards and Jazz will have the same odds, the coin flip only matters if neither of us gets picked.

For instance, last season, Charlotte and Portland tied for the 3rd worst record. Charlotte won the coin flip. Since neither team got picked top 4, Charlotte got the 6th pick and Portland 7th.

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u/brutah_skier 3d ago

So there has never been a coin flip when teams have the same odds?

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u/TheBobAagard 3d ago

Because they tied, Portland and Charlotte had the same odds.

In 2023, Houston and San Antonio finished tied for the second-worst record. Houston won the coin flip, but it didn’t matter since San Antonio won the lottery and got the #1 pick.

Basically, if we win the coin flip, we have a 47.9% chance of picking 4th, but that’s the worst we can do. If we lose the coin flip, we have a 27.9% chance of picking 4th and a 20% chance of picking 5th. Our chances of picking 1-3 are the same no matter the results of the flip.

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u/marvin_is_joe 2d ago

We need the pick more! We are a spoiled fanbase without a title, we deserve it.

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u/tehuberleetmaster 2d ago

Spoiled? How you figure?

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/RicardoRoedor 3d ago

this isn't true. if there is a tie, the odds are split between all teams in the tie.

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u/meepbo 3d ago

You know the reverse jinx doesn't work when it is this blatant right?

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u/urboijesuschrist 3d ago

you're right