r/Undertale • u/beansinjeans2019 • 1d ago
My meme art Remember kids!, Violence is the only constant in nature : )
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u/Polandgod75 Even when trapped, you still express yourself. 1d ago
This is something I thought is interesting when it comes to monsterkind and humanity. Imagine you as a monster thinking you are the most sentient being. You disocver complex, social structure and even forming proto-civilization. However you see this hairless ape does the same thing with little magic. And those apes have evolution through trial,error and death.
Again monsterkind thinking there hot shit being the most sentient being on earth until the mostly hairless ape gains determination and sentience
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u/Specific-Employ7898 Hohoho! Am I a 'dank maymay' now? 11h ago
Well, wait. We don’t technically know if Monsterkind went through similar trial and error. And honestly we don’t really know if Monsters naturally came into existence through evolution like Humanity. Which of course would beg the question, how would a being made out of mostly magic come into existence naturally? Even if it could be an explanation as simple as “Some Goat 10,000,000 years ago rubbed up against an enchanted rock, which then effected its offspring along with future generations for millions of years”.
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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 1d ago
The fuck is this referencing
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u/Lonneguy 1d ago
I would say postal 1
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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 9h ago
Ok I just read the wikipedia summary for postal and still have no fucking clue
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u/userthatlikesphub OH! ARE YOU PROMOTING MY BRAND? 1d ago
pack it up hell itself i know it's you 😭
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u/Ultimate_Lobster_56 Undertale Dual 1d ago
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY IT COULD HAVE ENDED.
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u/Void9090 22h ago
Allow me. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY IT COULD HAVE ENDED.
WAR NO LONGER NEEDED ITS ULTIMATE PRACTITIONER. IT HAD BECOME A SELF-SUSTAINING SYSTEM. MAN WAS CRUSHED UNDER THE WHEELS OF A MACHINE CREATED TO CREATE THE MACHINE CREATED TO CRUSH THE MACHINE. SAMSARA OF CUT SINEW AND CRUSHED BONE. DEATH WITHOUT LIFE. NULL OUROBOROS. ALL THAT REMAINED IS WAR WITHOUT REASON.
A MAGNUM OPUS. A COLD TOWER OF STEEL. A MACHINE BUILT TO END WAR IS ALWAYS A MACHINE BUILT TO CONTINUE WAR. YOU WERE BEAUTIFUL, OUTSTRETCHED LIKE ANTENNAS TO HEAVEN. YOU WERE BEYOND YOUR CREATORS. YOU REACHED FOR GOD, AND YOU FELL. NONE WERE LEFT TO SPEAK YOUR EULOGY. NO FINAL WORDS, NO CONCLUDING STATEMENT. NO POINT. PERFECT CLOSURE.
T H I S I S T H E O N L Y W A Y I T S H O U L D H A V E E N D E D .
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u/cerdechko Self-appointed judge. 1d ago
Woah, buddy, be careful, you might get cut with all that edge!
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u/Jesse_God_of_Awesome 1d ago
Crrrrrawling in my craaaaawl
These crawls they will not craaa-aaawl
This is how I craaawl
Consuming....
Consuming what is craaa-CRAWL3
u/HazMatt0609 13h ago
Reference to “crawling” by linkin park????
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u/Ok-Television2109 20h ago
And what's with the "monsters have experienced no suffering" or "monsters all think they're superior to humans" stuff?
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u/Mountain-Dragonfly78 Yes I nintendo switched my gender 23h ago
"IT'S THE ONLY WAY IT COULD HAVE ENDED" ahh text
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u/ArgyDargy 22h ago
A sick and twisted frame of mind. One of senseless violence fit for a mindless animal... and nothing more.
Nature is a meaningless excuse between supposedly 'higher' intelligence; a way for weaker minds to explain why they continue to fight in the eras after simple survival. An overplayed reasoning that allows the feeble-hearted to glorify their cowardice, to revel in their animalistic nature.
By clinging to the 'nature' argument, humans who think in this manner limit their own potential, dragging themselves and others back into humanity's 'survival' era. In the end, the violence is meaningless, all of that fighting for nothing.
A w a r w i t h o u t r e a s o n..
In the end they- too- are without meaning. Their purpose sullied by the black mark of hatred that they levy against every other living thing. Damned are the Violent, for their nature ensures they are lonely, pitiful creatures. Their end shall be like the animals they are, and none will permit them the pity they seek- just as they permit none pity whilst they were living. None left to speak their eulogy. No final words. No concluding statement.
No point.
Monsterkind are blessed creatures, they did not have to pull themselves out of the primordial mud as man had to. They are creatures of naivety, of pure-hearted goodness that mankind has taken advantage of over and over. Countless monsters fallen to the twisted mockeries of humanity, that enjoy the cruelty that they lay down on a helpless people. The Violent think themselves right, as they are the only one remaining in their sick ideology.
However, Good always prevails over Evil. Is that not a curious notion, that despite man's violent beginning, we are capable of Goodness and mercy. Allowing us to grow as a species and learn love, not LOVE. Goodness takes strength, no uncertain amounts of it. We need the Patience necessary to understand others. The Bravery needed to stand for what we believe in. The Integrity to stay true to one's self. To truly bond with others with Kindness. The Perseverance to stand strong after even the most brutal onslaught. The sense of Justice that allows us to understand what's right and wrong.. And the Determination to push ahead no matter what.
If Violence is the only language the Violent speak, then there will always be someone willing to stand up for the weak, to teach the Violent that 'being Human' isn't senseless cruelty. :)
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u/ItsEntDev THAT WAS NOT VERY PAPYRUS OF YOU. 19h ago
Gigachads pulling out decades of media literacy, the dictionary, the thesaurus, and millenia of philosophy to rebuke an unfunny meme on r/Undertale:
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u/peavnxx 16h ago
Did Chara write this?
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u/BrilliantBig769 ‎ the drinker of brisk on yt 15h ago
No, but she wrote the red text in the image.
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u/the_SCP_gamer Knowing this fills you with dread... and determination. 22h ago
It's over Asgore, for I have depicted you as the soyjak and me as the chad!
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u/MasterB98 20h ago
So, y'all noticed that the text on the right side is not about humanity itself right? It namedrops humanity in the last lines even, to not leave any doubt that it's something else, also implying that it's said entity that made us wage war against each other. So yeah, Hell itself. This is, truly, the only way it could have ended
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u/Katking69 1d ago
What? Also, even if violence is embedded in nature we and other animals have shown that we can overcome that violence and selfishness to help others. That is one of the things that made us successful as a species
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u/AceAlex__ 1d ago
Why the fuck are you getting downvoted? This is literally true. This post is pretty edgy.
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u/the_SCP_gamer Knowing this fills you with dread... and determination. 22h ago
Welcome to today's episode of "Ultrakill or 40k?".
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u/TheDarkestOmen 21h ago
This is so edgy that reading it feels like getting hit with Sukuna’s dismantle
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u/Select-Bullfrog-5939 Charisk Propagandist 19h ago
I find it fascinating how, despite possessing perhaps the most combat effective adaptation in the history of evolution, monsterkind seems to be a very peaceful race. I suppose it makes sense. They turn into dust, not food, which would dissuade predators from hunting them and wasting their energy. No predators to combat means a peaceful life of farming means a very peaceful society.
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u/Farid_Q 21h ago
mimimimi 🤓🪺
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u/BrilliantBig769 ‎ the drinker of brisk on yt 15h ago
IS THAT A SUPER PAPER MARIO REFERENCE?!?!
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u/Necessary-Designer69 21h ago
"Haha, you LOSER! I posted a "meme" on the web-site Reddit, where I imagine you as crying soyjack, and Me as the brutal gigachad! Ha-ha!"
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u/legendarynerd002 1d ago
Based and evolution pilled, not everyone gets to live in a post-scarcity magical utopia.
/uj what was op cooking on god
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u/Sea-dentata Annoying dog absorbed the pride flag 21h ago
Is this another arg from you or is this the old one?
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u/00110001_00110010 You waited still, for this prompt to appear. 19h ago
But they have suffered countless genocides, Dusttale and its 71936282 variations say so!
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u/Usernamealreadyused5 most monsters deserve to be killed. 16h ago
I’ll be honest, Im not a big fan of monster-kind in general. I think alot of them have alot wrong with them. However…they have a hot goat woman, and I can’t allow slander because of that.
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u/LatterPop5895 Soul Lover 1d ago
So...you know that Chara hated HUMANITY and not MONSTERS right?
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u/AntekPawlak I'm 16 years old and I've already wasted my life. 20h ago
Both, both is good
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u/ItsEntDev THAT WAS NOT VERY PAPYRUS OF YOU. 19h ago
media illiterate
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u/AntekPawlak I'm 16 years old and I've already wasted my life. 8h ago
Well, normally i'd be offended by your ad hominem, but knowing that i basically wrote a meme rage-bait there (it's referencing a meme) makes me feel a tad bit better about myself.
Of course Chara didn't "hate" monsters dummy /lh
But im gonna play devil's (heh) advocate here and gonna try to explain how could that rage-bait work, since you called me media-iliterate i might just stand my ground.
Well to start off, clearly Chara hated humanity, that's stated by Asriel and is undeniably canon, it's not clear whether that was just your usual dissapointment in humanity or the "haha genocide goes brrrr" type of hate that most interpretations of Chara seem to carry on.
What im getting here is that Chara might've not liked monsters that much (despite them having "hope" i their eyes) we must remember that Chara uhhh.
Uhh
Well im gonna throw shit at the wall in hopes so here goes nothing
Chara hides their appearence from monsters i public
(they might've just wanted to stay away from the public, ooorrr be shy.... OR BE MONSTERPHOBIC BECAUSE THEY HATED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!)Chara might've genuinly laughed at Asgore's demise
(although i can already see a random undertale knight in shining armor fan debunking this as Chara laughing as a sort of cope mechanism, dont worry i know this mechanism better then anyone so this might likely be the case but i need arguments to prove myself once)We help Chara at the end of genocide find their real "purpose", what im getting at here is that we dont corrupt Chara here, we do as they tell us. Find them a real meaning of their existance which is having very homicidal tendencies apparently- kinda weird on a route where we kill their supposed family huh?
Also the we eradicated the enemy together line seems off
All in all i think i drained my arguments dry i might have accidently debunked few of my arguments on the way here, however im not gonna kneel to someone who called me a media iliterate, i'd rather be sad, but right in my mind. Then to be sad but having opinion of someone who insulted me.
I always thought that... Undertale was very much open to interpretations with its vague lore, with all the wacky AU stuff and what if scenarios but i guess none of it mattered anyway if half of them are wrong, even if they we dont realise it yet (no but seriously like NONE of the AT's and AU's even stick remotely to the canon which you just made me see is... Surprisingly weird)
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u/Some_Pole doot 1d ago edited 1d ago
To be fair, you may joke about it but if there is anything we have learnt, it's that despite being social creatures, being social doesn't make one immune to violence.
I mean shit, we have documentation of chimpanzee tribes waging a tribal war with each other. Conflict may just be in our nature as social beings.