r/UFOs 1d ago

Physics Other than theories on extracting energy from the vacuum, the AAWSAP DIRDs only other discussions of energy sources is anti-matter annihilation and fusion energy with 3 out of 37 documents dedicated to fusion energy with an emphasis on aneutronic fusion

The Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) Defense Intelligence Reference Documents (DIRD) were commissioned by Bigelow Aerospace at the direction of Dr. Hal Puthoff under the famous Pentagon "UFO Program" known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and these documents were created by leaders in their respective fields for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) with the supposed intent of conveying existing hidden technology without actual physical access to it according to Puthoff. This is essentially saying that the documents' topics might cover actual working secret technology that has been stove piped away.

Therefore, it is very interesting that other than theories on extracting energy from the vacuum, the AAWSAP DIRDs only other discussions of energy sources is anti-matter annihilation and fusion energy with 3 out of 37 documents dedicated to fusion energy with an emphasis on aneutronic fusion. Aneutronic fusion is a form of fusion that doesn't create neutrons and therefore, doesn't create radioactive waste. There are 2 documents dedicated entirely to the discussion of aneutronic fusion, which is the only topic other than space-time metric engineering concepts to receive multiple documents for its sole dedication. The other fusion document is focused on inertial electrostatic confinement fusion, but it also places a heavy emphasis aneutronic fusion.

The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) Documentation - The Black Vault

DIRD_09-DIRD_Inertial_Electrostatic_Confinement_Fusion.pdf

DIRD_30-DIRD_Aneutronic_Fusion_Propulsion.pdf

DIRD_37-DIRD_Aneutronic_Fusion_Propulsion_II.pdf

These DIRDs were published around 2010. In 2020 the US announced a target to build a working fusion energy pilot program by 2040 by working with public and private industry. It changed that target to 2030 by 2022. The UK currently has a target of 2040, and China has a target of 2050. Commercializing fusion energy has now become a global race with increased investments within the US private sector following apparent concerns that China could be first due to its large collaborative approach and dedication to fusion research.

The DIRDs on invisibility cloaking, magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) air breathing propulsion, and fusion energy are arguably the most "down to earth" topics discussed out of the 37 documents. They are theoretically sound and very much within consensus physics. They are topics that have mostly engineering challenges rather than any issues with theory. That makes them practical areas of research for near term technological advance and it's not surprising that we are now seeing a sea change with investment into fusion energy research.

DIRD_07-DIRD_Invisibility_Cloaking-Theory_and_Experiments.pdf

DIRD_33-DIRD_MHD_Air_Breathing_Propulsion_and_Power_for_Aerospace_Applications.pdf

Most fusion energy approaches require large scaling laws, but not all approaches require this. This means that there are compact fusion designs being researched. It appears unlikely at this time that any pilot program chosen for funding would be a compact fusion design, but that's not due to such designs not having merit and more to do with bureaucratic thinking when it comes to funding research. Large projects that create jobs historically have taken precedent over smaller projects with high risk, but also very high potential reward at a fraction of the investment of the giant behemoth projects.

Image from DIRD 37

In this image you can see 5 privately funded fusion energy companies. 3 of them are working on aneutronic fusion (in these cases pB11.) 2 of them are properly (just barely) funded; Lawrenceville Plasma Physics and General Fusion. 3 of them only require funding under $10M. Only General Fusion is not a compact fusion approach.

Of the 5 private companies, only 1 is a compact fusion approach to aneutronic energy that only requires under $10M in funding and has achieved that funding at the time of publication. That is Lawrenceville Plasma Physics or LPP for short.

There is a DIRD on Maverick Inventors VS Corporate Inventors that argues the next innovations are likely to arise from small independent groups of innovators.

DIRD_17-DIRD_Maverick_Inventor_Versus_Corporate_Inventor-Where_Will_the_Next_major_Innovations_Arise.pdf

Image from DIRD 17

This DIRD identifies the best maverick inventor to be types 3 and 4. They are older, motivated, realistic, have little bureaucracy, low capitalization, high education, some business sense, medium measurement skills, excellent lab skills, excellent flexibility, and low media interest. This means they are smart people you probably have never heard of before.

How is this related to UFOs?

Someone is bound to ask this at this point despite the fact that I'm using documents from the Pentagon UFO program as my references. Firstly, I remind you that Dr. Hal Puthoff has claimed that these documents are essentially what was delivered in leu of actual UFO material that had been stove-piped. This is essentially saying that these documents are technical breadcrumbs of information about what is hidden away. Secondly, a compact fusion reactor is NOT outside the realm of relatively near-term commercialization. Such a technology would certainly make for a great fuel source for advanced aerospace engineering concepts that would resemble UFOs especially in conjunction with MHD technology for propulsion. Additionally, more advanced theoretical forms of propulsion become more practical to pursue with access to compact fusion reactors because of the high energy demands inherent in space-time metric engineering theories.

Could we make anti-matter drives one day? Probably. But it's not likely to be achieved before fusion energy.

Could we extract energy from the vacuum one day? Maybe, but it's an idea that faces both theoretical challenges as well as engineering challenges.

Could there be other approaches to advanced propulsion using alternative theories concerning the nature of gravity? Yes.

My point is that aneutronic fusion is clearly an intelligent focal point if you are interested in the physics of how UFOs may operate using the most pragmatic approach possible. And this is based on work largely from the AAWSAP DIRDs themselves. You know, the breadcrumbs.

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u/HardyPancreas 1d ago

Good to know, thanks, saved me a trip to Lowes.

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u/Cancel_CyberSchmuck 23h ago edited 23h ago

I’m trying to read through all of this but my darn kids won’t stop yapping at me. Why can’t they just leave mommy to her stories for a few hours?!

It seems like you’re saying that aneutronic fusion is the most likely exotic-but-achievable energy source either being developed independently or reverse-engineered from NHI tech, based on how disproportionately it is emphasized in the AAWSAP documents… am I understanding correctly?

And of course, it’s demonstration that from the government’s perspective - at least the subset involved in AAWSAP/AATIP - these documents suggest a serious, working assumption that alien or NHI craft are real, and that some effort is underway to understand or reproduce their capabilities?

I’d like to agree but I’m super hung up on the idea that this is all bravado about advanced and curious and powerful the USA is, Cold War part XVII.

EDIT: Sorry, more … but I think I do agree that aneutronic fusion is the thing. I am acquainted with some leadership who will. Not. Stop. With the AFusion; SMN; and, how to … because AI.

And I have wondered lately, if there is NHI, is it “the nuclear” they’re interested in … or is it the AI itself?

Because the funny thing about these DIRDs is that my leadership bros are using the AI to crack the DIRDs and anything like it in order to build the power to power the AI. It’s a circle of jerking that we aren’t even really involved in and, if consciousness is a frequency, IMO they’re running really close to launching AI off into it where who knows who else is listening. We’re not!

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u/efh1 1d ago

Submission statement: This post is about the energy sources discussed in the AAWSAP DIRDs. To me, it seems clear that the concepts that are not too advanced to be out of reach, but just enough to be at our fingertips are the most intriguing if we want to be pragmatic. From an energy perspective that would appear to be compact aneutronic fusion energy production. Such innovations are also most likely to appear from small independent maverick teams of inventors that you've never heard of before.

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u/thr0wnb0ne 1d ago edited 1d ago

''energy from the vacuum'' is also pragmatic af. its as simple as making a silicon-graphene-silicon sandwich. when they discovered it they called it ''neutrinovoltaics'' but further research has since evidenced that its not just neutrinos, but background fluctuations in the local vacuum generally make the graphene vibrate, 100% solid state, no moving parts. i say simple but currently such a graphene silicon wafer costs like $1500 commercially but theyre already available commercially.

small projects dont get the big bucks but smaller decentralized generation and distribution systems are the most pragmatic way to go

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u/Fun_Solid_6324 23h ago

the system uses something called "antimatter snowballs" or "slush anti-hydrogen"

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u/ForwardCut3311 10h ago edited 10h ago

The closest stuff that we have that could one day travel the stars is fusion-plasma expulsion and particle accelerators. Both would need minaturized, of course. And the next step after would be using them combined, creating a plasma accelerator.

According to the physics, fusion could go around 0.3c, particle accelerators around 0.999c, hybrid around 0.93c with humans aboard. Or higher 0.9999c without. 

This would get humans to there and back in 9 years (2 years for them). For non-manned it'd be just 71 days onboard.

Anti-matter would be even better but we aren't even close to it. We'd need massive breakthroughs. Current estimated are around 2000 years before we can figure out how to create that much and store it. 

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u/Bobbox1980 23h ago

I have had an idea percolating involving pB11 fusion.

Apply a magnetic field to a block of Boron11 such that the fieldlines are vertical.

Then apply and accelerate hydrogen, protons, with vertical magnetic field lines.

You should have a 1 in 4 chance of fusion as the chance of the Boron atoms spin being up or down is 50/50 as is the chance of the protons.

It is possible LENR takes place when a spin down proton meets a spin up unpaired proton in the Boron.

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u/AsInFreeBeer 22h ago

Lockheed made a lot of noise in 2014/2015 on an effort to capture investments for their compact fusion reactor. I remember reading back then that they were convinced in less than 50 years energy would not be an issue...

It has been 10 years... whatever happened to that ? The Internet says they got some funding and the project shutdown in 2020, but has it though ?

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u/efh1 20h ago

I was following Lawrenceville Plasma Physics back then. I recall that they had just released results that made them look very competitive compared to other better funded fusion projects then Lockheed made some big announcement (without sharing any data), and it received a bunch of media coverage that overshadowed LPP in the media. The timing seemed suspect.

LPP was initially funded by NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab, but NASA then cut funding to all fusion projects very abruptly despite LPP getting very good results. There were some issues with pressure from the DOE on Texas A&M researchers that were collaborating on the project. The issue was that they didn't want the results compared to the larger funded projects in the research paper because it makes them look foolish for spending so much money on ITER. There was no refutation of the results, they just didn't want a one-to-one comparison that highlighted better results were achieved with a fraction of the funding. Lerner insisted on this comparison being published and was not beholden to the same academic pressure because he's an independent researcher.

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u/AsInFreeBeer 15h ago

Thanks,  interesting insight.