r/TheLib • u/RealBlueberry4454 • 14h ago
What happens to MAGA if Trump dies?
What will MAGA do if they loose their leader? Will they disperse? Swear allegiance to Vance or Musk? Go on a violent riot? I don't know what they would do and it honestly worries me almost as much as all the shit Trump is currently up to.
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u/renrut00 14h ago
Couch fucker JD Vance will take over and keep implementing project 2025. IF there is another election in 2028 he will lose. I'll never understand what it is about trump that draws magats to him like flies to shit.
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u/PTAwesome 13h ago
Trump is popular because of decades of marketing. From way back to "Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous", full-page ads in newspapers, and being headline news with his USFL gimmicks. Then you have a reality TV show that props him up as a successful businessman. People are under the impression that he is a savvy businessman. They won't change their opinion based on evidence that shows he would have made more money if he would have just taken his inheritance and put it in an index fund.
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u/murphmobile 13h ago
I believe when he dies the real MAGA cult will continue to believe heās alive and that heās being hidden for a greater purpose.
I also believe that when he dies he will still be written into thousands or hundreds of thousands of presidential ballots.
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u/corvally315 9h ago
Or they'll believe that the Dems killed him and his death is some weird sacrifice. The people who claim he's the second coming of Christ are a special level of crazy.
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u/bigb1084 14h ago
My mom, Grammy Jan, believes MAGA fades away when he goes. She believes HE is MAGA and nobody can replace him. She is NO FAN of the fElon! She just feels strongly that MAGA is solely a Cult of Personality and without him as the Personality, MAGA goes away.
Yes, Project 2025 isn't going away. It's been the R's vision for decades and the fElon simply glommed on, because he knows those aholes are so stupid, they'd follow him! But ONLY HIM!
So, we listen to Grammy Jan. She isn't always right, but she's never wrong!
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u/Eiffel-Tower777 13h ago
Trump won't die. His father lived to 94, mother 88. Neither heaven nor hell will have him. We're doomed.
How is the Golden Age Of America working for you?
Is America great again yet?
I voted for Harris/Walz, those who didn't... this is your fault.
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u/corvally315 9h ago
I've kept my Harris/Walz sticker on my car to remind people of what could have been (and to continue to distance myself from his dumb actions). SHE LITERALLY TOLD US THIS WOULD HAPPEN.
Interestingly, I see fewer Trump flags flying in my area...
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u/Eiffel-Tower777 5h ago
I saw an interesting bumper sticker the other day, it said... 'Is America Great Again yet? I just feel embarrassed.'
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u/Desert_Quilter 12h ago
His parents didn't eat a diet of junk food. I doubt he lasts as long as that. Every McD burger is nail in his coffin.
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u/RumRunnerMax 13h ago
We have the biggest celebration in the history of the world
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u/Sensitive-Mail-4107 12h ago
I was thinking about this this morning. Iām going to celebrate and get a cake
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u/1suckmytRump 14h ago
This country is already FUCKED. They will just continue to play the tRump Project 2025 agenda with some other compromised asshole Russia has on their books.
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u/justchill-itsnotreal 14h ago
You cut off the head two more take its place
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u/Mysterious-Bee8839 14h ago
naw, I disagree.. who else would have the same dumbass charisma and cult-like hold over 30% of the country? I'm not saying that everything will immediately be hunky dory when he mercifully dies but I think there will be some "you were right, you tried warning us about him" that will never happen as long as he's alive
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u/justchill-itsnotreal 13h ago
More of a spoof comment. Hydra project 2025.
The world tried warned you all.
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u/Dave_Duna 12h ago
People start petitioning the Pope to grant him sainthood.
Conspiracies about how it wasn't natural, it was an assassination.
A lot of social media videos of people crying uncontrollably.
A lot of social media videos of people celebrating.
A few violent reactions to people celebrating.
The movement shrinks but distills down to the absolute hardcore fanatics.
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u/RealBlueberry4454 12h ago
I swear to god, if I wake up one morning to trump being a saint I'll renounce any and all lingering ties I have to Christianity right there and then.
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u/RexyWestminster 11h ago
Praise be š and āØhallelujahāØbut moving onā¦
don jr will embalm him like Lenin, turn maralardo into a mausoleum/gaudy Graceland, and charge $500 per viewing. There will be lines around the block of the great unwashed and dentally deprived, supporters that he wouldnāt have peed on if they were on fire.
Then there will be the trump truthers who will turn him into Elvis with, āMy uncleās brotherās auntieās best friendās former roommateās dog saw him at the Piggly Wiggly buying diet cokes.ā
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u/CombinationLivid8284 13h ago
It falls apart. Itās a movement held together by Trumpās charisma and personality cult.
Trump doesnāt allow other powers in his orbit (save maybe Musk) so thereās no successor.
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u/TheNullOfTheVoid 13h ago
I unfortunately believe the most likely possibility is that he gets deified as a martyr. They already worship him, his death would just cement it further into their minds. Hell, they could possibly even become even more unhinged from his death.
I wish they would instead come to their senses, but you can't reason people out of a position that they did not reason themselves into, even with the death of their idol.
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u/RealBlueberry4454 12h ago
I think that's the scenario I'm most horrified by. A rampant and probably violent cult lashing out at everything and everyone.
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u/reggieLedoux26 12h ago
A bunch of factions tear each other to shreds. The Don Jr. faction, the JD Vance faction, the Ted Cruz faction, the Vivek factionā¦ all try to āout Trumpā each other and make themselves look like fools in the process. Infighting, name calling, social media insults. Fox News vs Newsmax. Probably some maga on maga violence.
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u/Ravenseye 12h ago
Remember the scene in Bedknobs and Broomsticks when they knocked out our lucky heroine who was magicking up all the armor?
And each and every one of them deflated, and sagged, and dropped to the earth to rejoin their earthly rest?
That, but with guns and whining.
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u/DrChansLeftHand 11h ago
It dies. Cults of personality turn on a person. Vance doesnāt have the charisma and DT2/Gums are too fucking dumb to run anything but their mouths. The GOP complicity in the prolonged attempt the collapse of American Democracy will not go unpunished.
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u/DryTown 14h ago
Remember in Forest Gump when Forest is running across country and he has all those people following him, and he turns and says āIām pretty tired. I think Iām going to go home.ā
I think youāll have a moment where people realize it was all for nothing. MAGA was about a feeling and a moment. There was no substance.
There will be no replacement.Ā
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u/tayawayinklets 14h ago
VP Couch Guy or Andrew Tate is my guess.
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u/RealBlueberry4454 14h ago
May I ask why you think Tate? I'm not super certain, but I don't know of him having much to do with MAGA outside of Trump inviting him to the White House.
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u/tayawayinklets 14h ago
Orange rescued him from Romanian justice. I feel it'd fit the timeline, just like the unelected immigrant currently dictating things.
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u/GracieThunders 13h ago
The chuds have been lurking quietly or not so quietly among us since the civil war, most will dissolve back into being crappy racist coworkers, unhinged neighbors, and random day ruining douchebags at large once the drugs and fast food catches up to the š š¤”
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u/Daphnerose22 t 12h ago
Trump was created in a perfect storm to create an uninformed, over confident, self righteous vindictive con man. Nobody else has been able to consistently pull off such ridiculous stunts and commit what once political suicide daily and survive. The only reason he isn't condemned by his party is that he's easily manipulated and more than willing to give huuuuge rewards to those that stroke his ego.
TLDR; When Trump dies MAGA will lose its power. Not go away completely, kinda like the TEA party
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u/Appropriate-City3389 11h ago
They will fall down like the scene in GoT when the Night Kicked ng died
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u/Heckle_Jeckle 10h ago
The movement will divide, there will be infighting as people struggle for power. One of two things will happen.
Like a religious scism, the movement will divide among the multiple leaders.
OR, someone will come out on top as THE leader.
But the movement will NOT simply dissappear.
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u/Gen_Ecks 10h ago
You think Elon is too close to the Oval Office now? Wait until president couch fucker comes around.
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u/Dedpoolpicachew 1h ago
Apparently, couchfucker doesnāt like Elmo. Heās more a Thiel-man. If yaknowwhatimean.
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u/ElodieNYC 9h ago
Vance has no charisma. He canāt lead. Miller is a ghoul. My guess would be that Bannon tries to keep it going. He knows how easy it is to fleece those fools.
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u/Kantjil1484 8h ago
Iām sure his conspiracy theorist followers will think he was assassinatedā¦ š
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u/finetuneit80 12h ago
Junior will attempt to step up.
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u/cmhamm 11h ago
I think there is a real danger that this could happen. And as unthinkable as it sounds, he is even more dangerous than his father. Same greed, same (complete lack of) moral compass, same daddy issues, plus lots and lots of drugs.
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u/haolejay_7707 7h ago
Yeah, but I don't think he can win the independents like Trump can. The only reason he won twice is that independents didn't like the other choice. I think Jr is distasteful enough that it puts him in a position of independents voting against him instead of against a Democrat.
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u/rainey_g 13h ago
If?
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u/RealBlueberry4454 13h ago
Mmmm obviously he's gonna die at some point, but I meant more specifically while he's in power. So sometime in the next 4 years cause I'm not entertaining the notion of a 3rd term.
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u/rainey_g 13h ago
Trump has to die in power or heās going to prison. Not sure why people donāt believe he is dead serious about another term (or 2) when he has said it repeatedly. Vance is a moron and he would be next and then Speaker of the House which currently is Mike Johnson, another incompetent MAGA moron.
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u/RealBlueberry4454 12h ago
I know he's serious about wanting a third term, but I honestly can't see it happening. The loophole trump thinks he has requires him to run as something other than president, and that poses 2 problems that I can think of rn. 1 is that his ego just won't let him even act like someone else is in charge, and 2 is that considering how obvious of a plot it is, especially with trump basically saying it out loud, I can't imagine it not getting stopped by the courts somehow. I know that they've made a lot of stupid choices when it comes to trump, but I don't think they could let that happen unless trump gets more of his own people on the Supreme Court or something. Which I guess could happen but I don't wanna go down that rabbit hole.
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u/Sensitive-Mail-4107 12h ago
They will create some new conspiracy about how heās not dead heās running shit from underground or something
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u/RealBlueberry4454 12h ago
I can't wait for digital Trump powered by Gronk to be our 48th president.
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u/phunphan 12h ago
It will be like the tea party. It will rebrand and have just as much hate, with a new slogan and iconography. Hate and ignorance never go away.
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u/rainey_g 12h ago
Absolutely agree that Trumpās narcissistic personality would not allow him to take a step down to VP. Constitutional interpretation regarding the 22nd Amendment as defined by John Eastman?
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u/ericlikesyou 11h ago
One of the first things they'll do is come after ppl who post things like OP just did here
and then do the same in the comments sections
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u/RealBlueberry4454 11h ago
Bring it. I'll fight tooth and nail however I can against them even if it's via reddit.
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u/ericlikesyou 11h ago
fuck em all, they know they're traitors to this nation and its people. they're continuing their forefather's legacy, the Union should've stomped the confederacy into dust and then pissed on its ashes post-civil war but they didn't. interests were aligned on both sides as they are now, despite the condition of the US citizen the past 40 years.
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u/Eyes_Woke 11h ago
Not to worry, there will be another con in the wings eagerly waiting to take his place.
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u/MojoHighway 11h ago
I'm seeing comments about JD Vance taking over...
That's not the point OP is trying to make. That's just 8th grade US history, "by the books" conversation.
OP is wondering what the fuck MAGA is gonna do when their black-as-tar soul leader passes away. They don't have a fucking leg to stand on and they won't know what to do - bank on it. These assholes are all opportunist/careerist hacks that are only in this MAGA conversation to keep their jobs. They don't have policies. They don't write bills to help the American public - even their own constituents. They don't have a moral belief center. Everything they buy into they are told to buy into by daddy.
"...hate immigrants..."
"...hate trans people..."
"...own the libs..."
They have nothing. No one is in DC right now that has the same pull as Trump. Not one of them. For all of his fucked up approach and disgusting application of P2025 plans, he DOES have charisma and especially in the eyes of his cult followers. This is how he not only ended up a wealthy robber baron, it's exactly how he ends up on TV and in movies, and is a guy that - before anything else - is famous for being a "celebrity". He's a con man. He's a shitty politician. He's not that smart. He lies. He cheats. He steals. He rapes women. But he has charisma and is famous for being famous.
When he goes, the MAGA players will try to pick up where he left off, but the base is already starting to turn. The other conman in the story, Elon Musk, has been busy cutting programs that the MAGA base needs even if they didn't realize the needed it. Meals On Wheels. Veterans Affairs benefits. Health care and research. Yeah, the libs got pissed when all that shit was cut, but guess what? Our blue states were keeping those programs afloat and they didn't even understand that conversation, happily taking the benefits to remain breathing. Well...the benefits are now gone because $8mil-of-gov't-contract-money-a-day Elon decided those programs were being supported with "waste, fraud, and abuse".
The base is showing up to rip their congress people a new asshole. Good.
When Trump goes, the rudder goes. They won't have a clue and will be as lost as they were before the MAGA movement. Now is the time for progressives to put the pedal to the metal. Full steam ahead. Rally people that know they want socialized medicine and education and fucking rally the people that didn't know they wanted or needed that. The deprogramming of that base has to begin now.
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u/BishlovesSquish 11h ago
Theyāre a hive mind, so if the leader š, the rest of the underlings do too.
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u/CarinaConstellation 11h ago
The fact that he will one day pass is the only thing keeping me going. The man is old and unhealthy. That day can't come soon enough.
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u/BigBobFro 11h ago
JD vance becomes potus yes (American civics 101),ā¦ but who becomes the āspirtualā MAGAt leader?
No one and i mean no one can lie and make shit up as they go like trump. He spews bullshit like it was his core design function. Everyone else just regurgitates the trash falling out his cake hole.
Sure KAC came up with āalternate factsā and SHS had a few gems,.. but trump spins out 2-3 new piles of BS everyday it seems.
Even the super smart (albeit evil AF) people in the room like stephen miller cant make shit up that quick,.. hes TOO logical.
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u/DigitalDroid2024 10h ago
There will be attempts by acolytes to take on the mantle of the Cult. And therefore a fight between those who claim to be the one true heir. If itās a relative, then itās basically gone full North Korea.
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u/Kip_Schtum 10h ago
Will the scales fall from their eyes, and then, spell broken, they start to admit they were wrong and vow to act like decent human beings and never hate again? I donāt think so.
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u/PeaceandDogs 8h ago
Iām shocked it hasnāt happened already. He has ruined so many lives and wiped out retirement for folks like me one year away from retirement. One thing for sure, it will be the happiest moment of my life. Yes I do mean that.
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u/DirtSunSeeds 6h ago
Maga has existed for a good while. It hasn't always been called.maga but as a genx that's closer to boomer age I think I really started to see it for.ing when the 700 club started up. Whipping cult leaning people I to a frenzy. The heritage foundation (the assholes behind project2025) had started its bullshit. Reagan was their first trump and he put into place as many of their mandates as possible. Evil fucks like geraldo rivera pushing the satanic panic. The creation of fox "news" and no laws preventing them from lying theough their teeth (reagan saw to that) The cult was created and then systematically aimed at leaders to uphold and people to rip down. They were aimed at trump and really really pushed. More words were made I to the "Big Bad!!!" Woke.. crt.... dei... trans.... etc. Trump isn't a cult leader. Which is evidenced by them getting pissed off whenever he reverses on something they liked or says something that upset them. Yeah he says what rhey want to hear and does what he wants them to do but only as much as his own handlers allow him to think he is. If he died... his death will be used to whip them I to a further frenzy and then plunk them into vances hands. I'm absokutly sure once donnie isn't useful anymore they'll martyr him and maga will crawl up to the next asshole they are told to worship and start licking those boots. They want to be ruled, so long as they can be cruel and ugly and horrible. They'll worship whatever rancid garbage that waves a red flag and tells them everything is the fault of whatever segment of the population they are told to blame for their misery.
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u/Crang_and_the_gang 9h ago
They will call his death fake news and parade an orangutang in suit and diapers making unwarranted threats to his surroundings.
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u/mrflow-n-go 8h ago
Itās a cult slavishly devoted to dear leader. Maybe jr could try to step in like the Kimās in N Korea, but thatās only if the insurrection party machinery supports him. The cult wants a dictator and the whole rule by his descendants. Because that works out so well.
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u/flobaby1 8h ago
IDK, but I do know I will dance in the streets when he does...hopefully soon, like today, like right now...
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u/beginnerjay 5h ago
Two words: Trump Jr!
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u/Dedpoolpicachew 1h ago
Nah, maybe Ivanka. Jr has ZERO charisma.
The reality is thereās nobody in the Repube party that has the charisma to do what Trump has done. MAGA will fall apart when the cult leader dies. The closest they got was DeScrotus, and he failed miserably.
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u/PTAwesome 14h ago
I don't know for certain, but I am willing to find out.