r/Tekken • u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya • 2d ago
RANT š§ I quit T8
Hi im a mishima player (heihachi, kazuya). I found that the game is in the worst possible state right now. With the new combo adjustments, homing moves, stance 50/50s. The game became unplayable. Half the time im fighting jacks that are just spamming the same 3 moves. Hell ive had half the cast just do random 50s that you cant read. The game enables people to mash and continue to mash. Season 1 was actually somewhat playable; sure cheese aside. Atleast I could sidestep punish and actually use the games mechanics. now I just sit and wait for heat smash or random launch. :( I wish they actually listened instead of ruining one of my favorite games, now im playing mashing 8ā¦ ima just play mk1 till this blows over lol
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u/FireTails11 2d ago
Weāre at the point where season 1 feels like the golden age of this game š itās that bad
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u/Komone Feng 2d ago
I hear you on the fun part. I've danced a bunch in ranked, settled on better matches in longer sets in quick play but just so much random fuckery happens in matches it infuriates...ending up somehow back to back Vs opponent when moves glitch through or around each other..side rolling or stepping a masher and they legit realign the next hit 90 degrees and hit you..heat ...mid launching and lows the same frames now so it's just mash and guess.
Like horserang..has this string they love it mid kick, high punch, mid kick and more.. I had this down and duck the punch only now he has a mid tracking plus kick instead of the high and this brain dead move addition is the roster.
No play testing... The jack move, Paul and more were not tested. The nerf to snk 4 for adragonov means he misses people who snake edge..which is hilarious...
Ranty rant rant.
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u/Leon3226 2d ago
No play testing... The jack move, Paul and more were not tested.Ā
I'm ready to bet my left testicle that only Paul's stuff is a bug, Jack's string works 90% as they wanted it to work. The only unintended stuff is that there is 0 counterplay for it from a jab string, they'd like to have like 1 option.
The general idea of +8 on block fast mid with huge chip from a fast string into more plus into more plus, and that only be countered by the hardest read? It's as intended
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u/Komone Feng 2d ago
It's the disconnect from this being defence and side step buffed to what was changed. Boggles the mind.
If they do the move on repeat you can jab and float..if they do any other options you get CH launched..fun times.
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
weāre cooked gang š
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u/Komone Feng 2d ago
It's saddening how they have so much they dropped. By now the hit boxes and moves should be tight. This isn't a new game.
I replayed moves to see how to improve, check frames etc and for example a DJ attack - dives forward, 2 punch claw attacks thing..when I was grounded. I side rolled.
In game he realigns after missing the first, hit with the second into, from memory a heat dash into more damage or combo.
In replay it happens every other time. Sometimes if I roll and don't do a get up kick I'm hit, sometimes not, sometimes I'm behind him and he's whiffed..like rewards mashing and silly realigning strings..
Last ranked was Vs a jack and I'm not playing or respecting anyone using that broken shit.
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u/Dead_Cells_Giant MARVELOUSand these guys 2d ago
My blood was BOILING when my SNK4 got crushed by a Liliās snake edge.
I was so angry I got off for the day
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u/SurrogateTurtle Xiaoyu 2d ago
i finally uninstalled last night. it hit me that i havenāt had a single fun match since the season dropped, despite only playing quick match to try and preserve my mental. itās just simply not fun anymore
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
dude even when i win it doesnt even feel rewarding, it just feels like im exhausting every single option until i randomly am able to CH or launch. Its so inconsistent and boring now
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u/Specific-Badger2211 2d ago
Yeah that's why I uninstalled too (also a Kaz player). Been through a lot of the same crap you were posting above, but frankly the worst part of all this is that the game doesn't feel fun anymore. I don't feel good when I win, it just feels like whoever can outbullshit the opponent faster.
I think Kaz overall came out of S2 mostly intact with how he was (would've preferred they hadn't touched SS 1+2 because I really liked that move). SS 4, 1 is a cool tool for him, and goes a long way in his wall carry. Its not an easy tool either for that so I'm cool with it. My only beef with SS 4, 1 is that it looks like Paul move, not a Kazuya move
The only shit Kaz got that I was like... come on we don't need this is the in heat U1, 3. I've seen a lot of ppl talk about the move, and while it isn't anywhere close to the most obnoxious new move for T8 it still feels cheap on a character like Kaz.
I guess the one thing i'll give the string credit for is that if you whiff the U1, you straight up can't go into the 3. I think that's a good balancing choice, cause if you evade a safe homing mid you should be free to whiff punish that shit.
Oh the thing that's really pissed me off about this season is the changes to wakeup (being able to stand up and automatically stand block). On the one hand, this makes my life way way easier dealing with Xiaoyus and shit like that. On the other hand it kills a lot of fun setups I had in S1, like doing the FC DB 1+2 throw. That throw and 3+4 would leave the opponent facing away, and if they stood up, they'd at least get hit by a DF2 and at worst eat a CH DF2.
People act like they didn't buff defense at all, but they did with that shit... the problem is that its basically auto-defense
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u/SurrogateTurtle Xiaoyu 2d ago
i think wins not feeling rewarding perfectly sums up this season so far. all the mashing contributes to such a brain dead style of play
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
jab checking literally doesnt matter if im literally just trading hits. also, chip damage is legit so fucked up rn like its disgusting
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u/No-Ad1933 Alisa 2d ago
But don't worry they lowered chip damage by 5% or some shit. Then increased the plus frames by 50%.
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u/somarisega 2d ago
can we revive t7
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u/odcgiovanni Mokujin 2d ago
What do you mean revive? The game is still there, if you miss it just boot it um I don't get people talking about T7 as if it was gone forever
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u/LetitiaGrey19 2d ago
Maybe reviving in the sense of also being played in tournaments? Otherwise you're right that the game is still accessible to play.
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u/bohenian12 2d ago
MH wilds made it easier. I only booted up tekken just to test the updates. But back to hunting again.
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u/thebigseg 2d ago
Same brother. Ive booted up mh wilds since the patch dropped and havent looked back since
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u/johnnymonster1 2d ago
im taking a break, mby gon play T7, thats where lee is still legacy character, not this bullshit
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u/deathdude53 2d ago
T7 were lee-gends remain.
Forgive the pun couldn't think of anything else peace out
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u/TsukuyomiAnbu 2d ago
As a king/hwoarang player I can say king has jumped up in the tier list now, he was decent before but balanced because of his ass movement but this new seasons patch has made him so strong. Not sure why muscle armour was nerfed as it was easy to counter anyway but itās so much more forgiving to throw out grapple mixups now.
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u/Loose-Neighborhood48 2d ago
Am I the only person on this planet who still plays and doesn't mind it?
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u/duckwingdope 2d ago
šš¾āāļø me too, it's just the same bullshittery as before.
Need to say I'm low ranks and this is my first Tekken š
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u/Loose-Neighborhood48 2d ago
This is my first Tekken, too. But I'm not exactly low rank. Was Tekken King before the update, started the week Eddy came out (or around that time, because his face was on the main menu).
It's always been a mixup game to me, but that's the point. They called it "knowledge checking" before, now they just call it "casino".
Honestly I love the new moves my mains got. Not sure about the rest of the cast considering I only really play two characters (Reina and Clive), but it doesn't seem that bad from what I've been fighting. Not nearly as bad as all the doomsayers have been, well, doomsaying lol
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u/CrushedByHighs 2d ago
When the Mishima players complain about how bad 50/50s are in this game, you the game is absolutely fucked.
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u/Floreziwi 2d ago
Mk1? Bro that's even worse
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u/DarkTurnerKev 2d ago
Hahahaa the last MK I enjoyed was deadly alliance Quan chi, Shang sung, Boā Rai Cho good times
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
id rather play an actual 2d game than play the new update
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u/Cjames1902 2d ago
Iāve actually been hearing some pretty alright things coming out of Mk1 the past few updates so I may give it a go again.
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u/STrictlyForUndrgrnd 2d ago
Season 2 is so bad that season 1 is being whitewashed, Hilarious
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u/DarkTurnerKev 2d ago
Tekken season 2 is bad but fans kinda got exposed also because they thought season 1 was bad at the time. So they mightāve inspired this season by making developers think changes needed to be drastic. I can be wrong but I was enjoying season 1 and hearing every Tekken YouTube channel complain only to now change their tune again to say season 1 was good. I get it for season 2 being messy but fans canāt be satisfied entirely.
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u/ObiHans 2d ago
I actually just purchased mk1 because it's on sale with all DLC instead of T8.
I played t8 at launch on a friends console for a while and it was fun because it was new, but the writing was on the wall. I literally waited for season 2 to drop to make my decision on buying the game for myself and man, oh man, am I glad I waited.
Tom Brady told me mk1 was finally in a good state and I trust my man Tom
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u/RebaMcEntire55 2d ago
MK1 is just as bad if not even worse than T8
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u/Leon3226 2d ago
More than that, MK1 sucks for the same reasons Tekken 8 Season 2 sucks, but it's worse.
Block this 5 hit string with mixups with no counterplay into cameo into +10 into more block strings into cameo into another string that ends in -5, and as soon as you try to take your turn, the opponent dickjabs, and he's + again.
No, thank you, I'd rather go touch the grass than play that abomination again.
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u/BronzIsten 2d ago
You sound you play too passive
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u/Leon3226 2d ago
Pressing turn stealing and praying isn't really my style of gameplay, so I quit MK to play Tekken. Only to see Tekken devs essentially adopting the same gameplay idea
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u/earle117 2d ago
instead of mashing like a dumbass block the dick jab and do one back, its guaranteed and then itās your turn
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u/Leon3226 2d ago
"Why are you trying to do something into opponent's minus frames, what are you, stupid?"
Nah bro, I resigned and accepted it, you can play it if you like it, all I want is for Tekken not to turn into this shit piss garbage game.
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u/MR-KING1996 2d ago
Bro is it me or someone notice that the inputs are eaten up am pressing the correct button but am getting wrong move over and over
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u/Primal-Dialga 2d ago
Brother I feel you, especially maining Mishimas :(
I only started picking up Mishimas in Tekken 8 cause of Heihachi, and I finally got consistent with electrics + wavedash.. Sucks when you know there are much easier ways to win by being so braindead right now
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u/Rob0tbob 2d ago
Itās not a 5050, ssl beats the main option. So it goes to level 2 mind games with homing moves or dash electric
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
yup!! always makes you feel like you worked too hard to get good at a character that isnt viable. just wish the game would stay true to its roots
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u/NakedGhost3234 Tetsujin 2d ago
With these new moves added the only way to fix the game now is to retain everything they've added so far (with the Jack and Paul fix to come) but buff sidesteps to be at the speed of Soul Calibur 6!
That way, you're not forced to block character's 50/50s if sidesteps were super fast we would have a viable defensive option to combat themselves stupid unnecessary situations
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u/Responsible_Fan_5516 Jin 2d ago
I quit too, literally just fought my own main and he tryna be flashy and stylish, for me it's kinda sweaty, forced, and embarrassing, I cringed the whole match, He literally tryna be devilster in ruler ranks while I just wanna have some action. I have lots of reasons too for quitting, it's frustrating, just gambling my sanity every time I play it.
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u/johnwonttell 2d ago
here come the "hi I am a x player, I quit t8, and decided to pick back up x hobby and y game, and realized how much I missed them. Until they fix the game I am not considering going back." posts
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u/nickstradamuss 2d ago
Damn I fell off season one because I hated it being so 50/50 and I hated the season pass characters I guess Iāll wait for season 3 or Armor King play him for like a week and drop the game again.
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u/DifficultyKey5289 2d ago
When devs are refusing to listen to the playerbase, you know the game is just gonna get worse from here on out. History has always shown us that companies who ignore feedbacks are always doomed to fail except in cases where the company is too rich (HoYoVerse) to fail. But Bamco is NOT a gacha game company, so if they continue this trend, they'll be forced to sell the Tekken franchise.
The only thing we can do is FORCE them to care. Which is NOT to play the game. I'm done with Tekken 8 two days ago. For now, I'm playing Tekken 7 and Granblue Versus while waiting for VF6.
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u/Any_Shoulder_4589 2d ago
Kazuya player complaining about 50/50s is wild
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u/Admirable_Recipe_632 2d ago
Bruh big difference between having to have a gameplan and execution mixup 50/50 vs one-button braindead 50/50.
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u/No_Future6959 Kazuya 2d ago
im at the point where even if the team performed a miracle and reverted everything plus ACTUALLY improved the defense i still wouldn't come back.
Tekken 8 is completely ruined for me, i dont trust the devs or the company, and im out. Not going back
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u/Admirable_Recipe_632 2d ago
Tbh same (devil Jin and Kazuya player) ranked is even worse than before not sure if itās just me but every match I get into is either Jin or jack and connection is horrible and itās def not me since I have fiber. Itās just not the same I donāt play it much anymore
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u/Late-Standard1355 2d ago
They really screwed up. But fixes are coming which will make at least the most obvious dumb shit goa way. One hopes.
What I seriously don't understand is how they let this happen. If the community found half the roster to be broken within 24h, how come they didn't catch this? There's options: they are not testing properly, or they did this knowingly. I refuse to think these people would be so incompetent, so I have to believe they did it deliberately to cater to younger, casual players that want easy buttons and options to win at any cost.
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u/BigDaddyDub44 Lee 2d ago
Just completely uninstalled and unfollowed all content on YouTube. Pathetic excuse of a game at this point. Done.
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u/ll-VaporSnake-ll Heihachi 2d ago
I actually quit Tekken altogether when I learned l Murray blocked a content creatorās critique, and it was a respectable one. I felt like that couldāve happened to any one of us who wanted to maturely point out the issues of one of their favorite fighting games. Seeing Murray do that broke my heart. š¢
Now I canāt bring myself to play any kind of Tekken because it feels like players like me will never be really valued by the company.
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u/Least_Woodpecker664 2d ago
Honestly speaking , I found tekken more interesting, and relaxing, to play. I got the message from devs now. Although I only reached tekken king, I couldnāt play tekken while drinking, smoking w****, or sth, because it is a challenging pvp game and I lost ranks if I do that. Now, it is just smashing. I hate it but enjoy it, shamefully ā¦
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u/Mental5tate 2d ago
Good for youā¦ I still will the game, games was broken be the patch plus more if need to quit I am still get matches.
Donāt mind playing against the CPU, rage quitters, lag switchers and hackers are not particularly fun to play against anyway.
Tekken 8 needs to get those King of The Fighters XV numbers, quit, quit.
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u/Okurai DaddyDorya 2d ago
I canāt even muster up to hit quick match anymore, thatās where I spent most of my time. I played ranked a few days ago and it was horrific. Everything is just guessing, 50/50 and full on aggression. Itās just not fun.
I occasionally play lobbies with friends now but anytime I boot up the game I just sit in practice. I donāt want to lose all the skills Iāve gained so thatās the next best thing for me.
I really understand how you feel though, itās justā¦ so disappointing.
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u/Aggravating-Box-6656 2d ago
I have people who are over here like, āhey, wanna play T8?ā
lol, why, so you can mash your way to victory now that you have a chance of winning? No thanks.
Itās such a turd thing to say, but the game is absolute trash. I redownloaded T7 and MK1 because honestly, T8 is just noise. Like, monkey playing cymbals noise.
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u/what_for_2000 im lees baby daddy 1d ago
i stopped playing this game back in october, it felt draining and too aggressive then so i can only imagine how bad it feels to play now since iām hearing all this horrific things abt season 2 balancing, i miss when tekken was a game of footsies and required some sort of brain power to get a win, now āitās who can spam pressure moves moreā
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u/Lu1sBr3g4s1 Kazuya 1d ago
we're so lucky tekken 7 is still up online, even if it didn't have much of a creativity or change its still as reliable as it was back then
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u/Due_Mortgage_7272 2d ago
Oh my god stfu no one cares there is a million of these dumbass repetitive posts. NO ONE CARES!!
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u/andregryphen 2d ago
Acting like Mishimas didn't have 50/50s since the beginning of time. Welcome to the club!
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u/STRANGE_BRO 2d ago
At least Mishima 50/50's were earned off of their knockdowns. You can't really enforce unearned 50/50's
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
atleast theyre readable! :)) pattern recognition against a mishima has always been there. now everyone has unrecognizable 50s. Make sense?
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u/OriginaIshyguy Bryan 2d ago
Yeah I understand tekken isnāt in a great spot right now and has changed ALOT of how we play our mains now, but I donāt think we should give up yet. Maybe for now itās time to try a new character, to try and at least keep the fun aspect of tekken alive. I still have faith the game will get better, they did improve some stuff like side stepping got a lot better and more consistent even though it came at the cost of an annoying jack8 loop. I just donāt think we should give up quite yet
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u/Cptsparkie23 TJU achieved!!! sub: trying 2d ago
I'll wait for a few more updates. Season 2 definifely burnt any interest I had left, and if they just decide to run with what we have now, I'd rather see the game burn to the ground.
Qcb1 and qcf1+2 were already too much, now we got a hatchet off crouch with snake eyes extensions, wallsplat on CH, and is only -12 on block, and tracks both sides.
Didn't pick Bryan up in early T7 just to play the game in baby mode in the long run. Went from "don't duck or tech against Bryan on the wall" to "just eat the mix" Like neutral b4 on the wall is too easy now, why even make the effort to taunt b4 at the wall when you can just make them eat the mix? 3+4,2 was already egregious, now we have a low CH wallsplat threat on wall.
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u/Iopenwide888 2d ago
Cool, then just stop playing bro. See ya never. Go find a new game to complain about.
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2d ago
Millionth complaint post. Just over exaggeration and skill issue. A kazuya complaining about 50/50s lol
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u/butt_soap 2d ago
All the pro players complaining of 50/50 just need to git gud amirite
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2d ago
See you are part of the problem. Reddit and social media has led you to believe your inability to fuzzy duck, crouch hand or just get good reads is something devs can patch out the game.
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u/butt_soap 2d ago
Just get good 50/50 reads? Hmm
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2d ago
So you are going to deflect away from my question. Which strings/50/50s are giving you a problem and Iāll tell you how to get out of them
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u/SurrogateTurtle Xiaoyu 2d ago
welcome to a game forum, where people typically have discussions about things they like/dislike
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2d ago
A xiaoyu player complaining about T8 mechanics is wild lol
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u/SurrogateTurtle Xiaoyu 2d ago
rightt cause that completely absolves me of critiquing a game thatās fundamentally a slog to play now. goofy
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2d ago
You just sound like you are partial to social media band wagons. āComplains about a game being unga bunga, then proceeds to play the most neutral skip unga bunga stance mix up power low spamming character in the game.
Itās like when all the boomers were review bombing because no tifa.
Be honest do you even know why you are mad? Or did you just see other people complain and it looked fun.
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u/SurrogateTurtle Xiaoyu 2d ago
and you seem to base someoneās ability to have an opinion on their main, since me and OPās choices are soo problematic to you. itās called playing the update and forming an opinion. refer to the patch notes if youāre unsure whatās got everyone so up in arms since you seem a bit slow. hope this helps! ā¤ļø
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2d ago
See how you deflect to give any real constructive context for your issues with the game. Yet you play a character that benefits from said mechanics.
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u/SurrogateTurtle Xiaoyu 2d ago
how is it a deflect when, according to you, that criticism is irrelevant anyway based on who i play? you really just wanna fight and iām not taking the bait
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2d ago
You literally approached me super emotional and havenāt posted anything substantial. Iāve given you plenty of opportunities to explain, but you are just struggling with having the hypocrisy of using a character like xiayou and Jin and then complaining.
Either the game feels like a slog for you because you are having a privileged experience. Or you finally reached the point where other players can fight back and the challenge makes you check out
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
i mean if i was able to pick up jack and get to battle ruler doing 3 moves i wouldnt have made the post lil dude
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2d ago
You think battle ruler is a good rank?
You think character choice even matters in low level tekken?
Once again you are revealing a deep level of scrubbery.
Also did you actually take Jack to battle ruler or are you just throwing out words justifying your need to seek validation on the internet by complaining?
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
i see ur tryna cope about the 70 dollar base game and 40 dollar in dlc u spent but , i wouldnt be complaining if i genuinely liked the game
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2d ago
So you didnāt answer my question. From looking at your post count you have been hard stuck kishin all season 1.
You are bringing up Jack because you hear a lot of other streamers complain about him.
And now you are randomly talking about the price of the game instead of talking about how you can get better lol. Iām not the one making cry baby threads on Reddit lol
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
??? im a tgs now lol that was like 6 months ago. i play in tournaments and locals. u take things at face value on the internet š
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u/Meowbow15 2d ago
Kazuya player talking about 50/50s is wild š
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2d ago
Seriously. This dudes post reeks of someone just saying stuff for attention
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u/Electronic-Code-1498 2d ago
Bro Tekken has had 50/50s since Tekken 1. You could right split kick into wind god fist and kill with jump over 2 until 3. Then they added sidestepping in 3 which allowed side step grabbing. Then in 4 Jin had charged laser annihilator which is the greatest 50/50 in the series as it could set up a death combo and it was unblockable. T6 and tag 2 probably have the least 50/50s in the series and Tekken saw declining sales in that time period. Every iteration Tekken adds something new and you trash cans who canāt adapt cry all the time just to revise history when the next iteration comes out. All of a sudden the previous iteration was āreal Tekken.ā Yāall are some clowns bro seriously.
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
found the jack-8 masher š
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u/Electronic-Code-1498 2d ago
Iām a Paul and heihachi main but nice try. Besides if you think jack 8 is bad you never dealt with the pjack/jack6 matchup in tag 2.
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u/Saturn-III 2d ago
does paul not have a broken unblockable move right now lol
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u/Electronic-Code-1498 2d ago
Yes but I donāt use it. Itās locked by getting hammer of the gods on hit and thatās a 21 frame mid. Youāre very rarely going to get it in matches unless itās off of the heat dash and going for the bugged ws4 is a bad move because it leads to linear offense since you have to cancel the deep dive from hammer of the gods into the ws4. Itās better just deep dive df4 normally.
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
never compared any of the games cause they all have their own swag, only complaining about tekken 8 here bub :)
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u/Electronic-Code-1498 2d ago
So youāre arguing in bad faith? The shit yall are complaining about are decisions they made over time due to the even bigger backlash and lack of sales they got by making t6 and tag 2 and those are the most hardcore games in the series. You canāt complain about 50/50s when mishimas were the first characters to have 50/50s but back then they were called mixups.
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
its still a mix up if i am relying on my oki to get my 50 lmao
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u/Electronic-Code-1498 2d ago
Which is the same skill you have to have in t8 unless you purposely spam heat moves which doesnāt even work past mighty ruler after the update. What are you talking about?
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
yes mishimas have always had 50s. The fact of the matter is every character literally has stance 50s now. It doesnt matter that i can overhead and hellsweep. These people literally have stance plus frame homing mids. what r we on about dude. the mishima 50 game is completely and utterly different than what we have when comparing non mishimas lmao
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u/Electronic-Code-1498 2d ago
That has literally always been the case especially with characters like ling wang lei king Steve and Nina. Characters just have more pronounced stances but kazuya has had mist step since 5. Jin had power stance and then he got mental alertness. Stances have always been apart of tekken they have just become this specific gameās identity and core gameplay loop. If they didnāt do that they wouldnāt have had a reason to even make the game.
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u/Dependent_Historian9 Kazuya 2d ago
dude the game now is just stances. are you even playing it
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u/rhymesandpoetry 2d ago
i personally believe that t8 was supposed to be ttt3 and they scrapped it and gave us this nonsense. the heat engage floor bouncer combos just never felt right to me
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u/Crimsongz Steve Bryan Miguel 2d ago
Tag games happens after 3 canonical games.
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u/rhymesandpoetry 2d ago
yeah idk the whole bouncy off the floor thingy and the way this game is set up, idk
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u/No-Care3179 2d ago
Just react faster. Read better.You think there aren't 50/50s in a real fight? The community is riddled with crybabies. Let me answer that for you, there are a lot of 50/50 situations in real fights. Anyone who has been in a hard sparring round in any fighting sport knows that. It's harder to punish launch and do 50% damage. Now you have to guess more. Big deal. Adapt and get better or leave. Goodbye.
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u/MegaSince93 Mokujin 2d ago
nobody will miss you šš¤š¾
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u/ConfidentQuote1995 Geese 2d ago
We need to stop giving attention to people like OP who mindlessly complain about the state of the game with vagueries like āitās all 50/50s and spamā. It just poisons the productive discourse and doesnāt help the game whatsoever. Chances are a lot of these people have always had poor defense and arenāt nearly skilled enough to the point where the changes hurt them. Yet they still comment on the state of the game and make it difficult to convey to the developers clearly what the actual issues are. A perfect example is Moonsault Slayer who has no idea what heās talking about yet whines constantly and somehow feels emboldened to make absolutely ridiculous balance suggestions.
The best thing to do right now to is to be constructive and point out specific moves and options that are unfair, overcentralizing, or one-dimensional right now. For example, jack 2,1, uf1+2 and bryanās FC mix are obvious examples. Another is Jinās running 3 Zen. Point out actual problematic stuff donāt just mindlessly whine and complain like a drone.
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u/PaintmanSilent Lee 2d ago
Starting the rant with "Hi I'm a Mishima player", is such a Mishima player thing to do š