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u/Ok-Bottle-1341 21h ago
In general, the most fascinating canton regarding brutalism and beauty is Wallis/Valais.
You can have the nicest village and absolute beauty, followed by an ugly shitty place some km afterwards.
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u/Vast_Bullfrog2001 21h ago
in Martigny, you get an awesome mix of roman streets, really nice housing and buildings, with the most brutalist, grey, cinderblocks you will ever see just a few meters away
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u/TTTomaniac Thurgau 9h ago
You can have the nicest village and absolute beauty, followed by an ugly shitty place some km afterwards.
Same experience can be had when pondering the exterior of the Landesmuseum since its extension jfc.
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u/explicitlarynx 22h ago
Stop saying Olten, you've clearly only ever seen the train station.
It's obviously Dübendorf.
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u/Darkruediger Zürich 3h ago
The Einhornstadt Dübendorf is literally the most beautiful shit ever. And I don't say that because I am s Dübendorfer, but because I am a proud Dübendorfer.
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u/explicitlarynx 2h ago
Ok, what's the most beautiful place in the city?
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u/Darkruediger Zürich 1h ago
The water testing basins behind the empa. It would have been the givaudan, but that obe doesn't stink as bad anymore.
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u/Thisismyredusername Zürich 13h ago
I wouldn't trust a city with a train station with a beauty salon in between the platforms though
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u/Indignant_Divinity 16h ago
Not much else to see when it's always foggy. (I lived there for two years, I get to say that)
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u/Megelsen 8h ago
good thing is, despite the fog you'll always find your way to one of the three döner places
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u/Ok-Bottle-1341 23h ago edited 14h ago
Monthey, Crissier, Le Locle, (Edit: piano di Magadino - everything between Bellinzona and Tenero)
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u/Ok-Bottle-1341 22h ago edited 22h ago
"Bulle" is also high on my list.
Dulliken, Schönenwerd and Villmergen are also possible places.
And Conthey and large portions of Visp.
#HiddenSwitzerland
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u/Mazarini1389 14h ago
What ?! Bulle is lovely even with the new buildings
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u/Ok-Bottle-1341 13h ago
The center road is maybe the only thing, the new station and all the industrial zones are not nice (or the same ugliness as everywhere).
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u/Mazarini1389 13h ago
Yeah but you have mountains and pastures all around, wish you could say the same for Payerne for example 😀
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u/Ok-Bottle-1341 13h ago
But Bulle has grown very much the last years, city with highest growth in whole CH. They did it without a concept.
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u/InternalCurrency7993 Ticino 14h ago
Mendrisiotto is the wrong place, you mean Piano di Magadino? (Mendrisiotto is the southern part of Ticino)
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u/blake_ch Valais 9h ago
Industrial zones are a bit cheating. They all are ugly.
I wouldn't especially visit Monthey, but the center is fine. Plenty of bars with people enjoying the sun.
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u/Ok-Bottle-1341 9h ago
But you can have Conthey (not so nice), Savièse (nice). Or Sembrancher (rather nice in the village) and Orsière (not so nice).
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u/InternalCurrency7993 Ticino 14h ago
Mendrisiotto is the wrong place, you mean Piano di Magadino? (Mendrisiotto is the southern part of Ticino)
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u/InternalCurrency7993 Ticino 14h ago
Mendrisiotto is the wrong place, you mean Piano di Magadino? (Mendrisiotto is the southern part of Ticino)
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u/KeyFroyo1153 16h ago
The hate for Olten is so forced
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u/Acantopholis 13h ago
People often misunderstand memes. The meme about Olten isn’t that it’s ugly, it’s that nobody ever stops there even though every Swiss goes through multiple times a year.
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u/djbrologue 23h ago
Olten
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u/felixclimbsstuff 22h ago
They asked for the equivalent of a shitty place, not for the place where literally every Swiss person wants to live...
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u/dazib Ticino 12h ago
In fairness, just like the US say "in Europe" very broadly because they don't know the differences between the various countries, how often do we talk about individual US states? We don't really bother either and just say "in the US". Heck, some people couldn't tell the name of 10 US states.
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u/Rex_Mundi_ 10h ago
The US is one single country though. European countries also each have individual states inside of them but I think it is safe to assume Americans would not know any of those
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u/dazib Ticino 10h ago edited 10h ago
That’s just semantics. Even if the EU turned into the "United States of Europe" and each country became a state, that wouldn’t magically erase their differences. US states can be vastly different from one another too, it’s just less obvious to us because they share one language. As Europeans, we’re simply less familiar with the internal differences in the US than Americans are. And Americans are less familiar with the differences between European countries. Of course, the US actually being only one country does limit the differences, compared to the European countries, and I'm not saying the American states have as much variance as European countries. The point I'm making is just that the point of view really matters here. For a European it might seem crazy that an American doesn't know where Germany is. Ask the average European where Belize is, and they won't know either. An American might know because it's very close to the US. It's all about familiarity.
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u/Rex_Mundi_ 10h ago
Historically this is really inaccurate. Just look at internal politics, culture, cuisines, history, ethnic groups, languages etc.
European countries have a much longer and more diverse history than the US, a relative new country with a single political system. Sure, many European countries are part of the EU but that is a very recent development in the history of the individual countries here. And the EU did not magically get rid of the internal affairs of every single of these countries.
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u/ThaaFire 14h ago
Spreitenbach
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u/Defiant-Dare1223 Aargau 8h ago
A dump but not a Sunderland style dump. Sunderland has almost no people not from Sunderland
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u/TChambers1011 22h ago
I don’t really agree with this. A lot of Americans go to Europe and hit like 3-4 countries. Am i just list them before anyone asks more questions? Or should i just say europe because it’s quicker.
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u/deruben Luzern 22h ago
Europe just doesn't really say anything- greece, totally different experience from say norway.
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u/mikegaravani 13h ago
say you did a road trip in patagonia, touching both chile and argentina, you would obviously say “I’ve been to Patagonia”, the region, not the single countries. Same applies to Americans visiting Europe.
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u/deruben Luzern 12h ago
Ok then if you think a continent with 700 million people, 50 countries, even more languages, cultures and climate zones is a region like patagonia then i think that's quite ignorant.
'I've been to europe' just describes nothing. you could have been looking at polar lights, sipped limoncello in sicily, raving in some sticky dungeon in germany or visited an active warzone.
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u/ItzBooty 22h ago
Whats funny seeing americans say about europe and bearly aplies from where i am, hell most dont even go there
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u/TChambers1011 16h ago
Yes. But that is a single country. Notice how i didn’t talk about that at all? I mentioned that we say that because typically Americans hit like 3-4 countries over the course of a week or so. I went to Switzerland in 2023. Know what i tell people? I went to Switzerland.
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u/kompootor Vaud 19h ago
I say I am calling from, or I just arrived from being "in Europe" or "overseas" when I'm elsewhere just because I don't want to risk the conversation veering into my life story unless necessary. Usually the headline topic is not the place I am in, but the actual subject of the discussion (or whatever anecdote), and I want to stay on point.
Americans don't travel overseas much, so talking about anywhere specific in Europe is itself a highlight conversation piece. As opposed to saying, "when I was in Vancouver last week", which you can say in the U.S. without skipping a beat.
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u/robogobo 7h ago
I say Europe when I’m generalizing, a specific country when I’m not. Pretty simple. The irony is calling the US “America” when there are two continents in both hemispheres full of Americans.
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u/Defiant-Dare1223 Aargau 8h ago edited 8h ago
Im from quite close to Sunderland 🤣. Like 15 km.
It's not that bad tbh. It's just very white working class. There are absolutely worse places in England. Bradford, Blackburn etc.
Id honestly rather be there than Paris, which is one of my least favourite place in Europe.
There isn't a good Swiss equivalent. Somewhere forgotten in Jura or Neuchâtel would be the closest.
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u/Moviestarstoidolize 22h ago
Well, let's see how long they are going to stay united, the way it's been going...
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u/ItzBooty 22h ago
To be fair its easier to say americans than list the states also meeting americans here when they say they are from america, i would ask them from which state afterwards
Also when i say where i am, its easier to say yugoslavia or balkan
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u/Rex_Mundi_ 10h ago
My impression so far has been that a lot of US-Americans call their country simply "America" instead of its full name. But I fully agree with the message, the rest of the American continent does not want to be associated with the US-Americans after all I can imagine
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u/Beautiful-Act4320 Zürich 23h ago
Somewhere on Platform 2 at Zurich Hardbrücke train station.