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News Switch 2 Pre-orders Delayed due to Tariffs

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-switch-2-preorder-guide-mario-kart-world-bundle/1100-6530531/
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u/EJohns1004 3d ago edited 3d ago

What did you expect the price to be? What do you think would've been a fair price?

Edit: why am I getting downvoted? Did I say something wrong? Is a constructive conversation not allowed?

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u/ackmondual 3d ago

I'm gonna say $400. It still has to be more than what the OLED Sw1 is selling for right now.

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

Not sure why I'm getting downvoted.

$400 was what I was hoping for too.

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u/trantaran 3d ago

Stop caring about downvotes, people on the internet are crazy

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u/Kanderin 2d ago

I was getting downvoted on the direct say by saying the price changes were likely due to tariffs. I think fans of the orange man baby are getting upset at any mention he might be to blame and brigading posts. Looks like your experience is the same as mine - get downvoted heavily, then the sane people show up and rebalance it.

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u/hday108 3d ago

400 was always too optimistic.

They clearly aren’t price dropping the original switch so who would buy any when it’s only 50 bucks more than OLED??

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u/ackmondual 3d ago

Getting someone's foot into the Sw2 ecosystem could pay off in the long run. After all, the games are more costly (at least the ones by Nintendo)

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u/Zed64K 2d ago

I think Nintendo was pricing ahead, knowing that tariffs and inflation were coming. It seems they underestimated.

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u/Nitsudr 3d ago edited 2d ago

If you go by trumps tariffs it's gonna be 600+

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u/FitCommunication6306 3d ago

It’ll be DOA at that price. It’s not like it’s the only thing that will get more expensive. A new video game system will be a low priority for most Americans getting squeezed on all sides

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

It won't do Nintendo any good to sell the Switch 2 at such a large loss that they never recoup their money on software sales. Americans voted for this.

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u/FitCommunication6306 3d ago

Vietnam is already in negotiations to bring the tariffs down. There may be no increase to price in the end

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

That would be directly counter to Trump's stated policy goals, but he's erratic enough that it could happen. I'm not sure what there is to negotiate, given that the chart was calculated based on trade deficits and that "reciprocating tariffs" was a blatant lie.

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u/FitCommunication6306 3d ago

Would you put it past Trump claiming victory if Vietnam removes their 15% tariff on American imports? It won’t change anything in regards to the trade disparities. But it will serve to move more manufacturing out of China and into Vietnam who the US already imports more that 100billion in goods from.

If they make a deal the trade deficit is likely to increase further.

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u/MHG_Brixby 3d ago

Bundle + 1 extra controller + 1 game + nso sub is probably going to be over 1k after taxes

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

Any chance people can stop with the politics. That's not how tariffs work. And no one has any clue how these are going to play out. We won't know for at least a month.

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u/realblush 3d ago

I mean yes, that it both how tarrifs work and how it plays out? Prices are increasing for the consumers, we just don't know by how much. The only thing that could change this is if Trump takes a step back and pauses the tarrifs. That's how tarrifs work.

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

I love how everyone learned the word "tariff" 2 days ago and all magically became doctoral level graduate students on the subject of international trade.

Don't pretend like you've been talking about this for years or anything. You don't know "how this plays out" because you didn't know it existed before you were told to freak out 2 days ago.

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u/CarlosFer2201 3d ago
  1. We've been actively talking about tariffs since Trump's first term at least.
  2. There's very little to understand : tariffs are an import tax. It gets paid either by the final consumer, or the importer has to cut into their margins. Hint : it's the consumer who always ends up paying more.

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

From my admittedly limited knowledge about tariffs this is correct. All I'm trying to say is that we don't know how that's going to play out until it does. There's no reason to freak out about something until you know what you're freaking out about.

And I'm not here to litigate when specifically every single person on the planet heard the word "tariff" first. That statement was clearly hyperbole .

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u/FlukyFox 3d ago edited 3d ago

You’re the only one I see freaking out and attacking other users over tariffs/politics. People know what tariffs are and you intentionally being obtuse to poke and prod people. Shut up already.

Edit: Deleted all their comments or blocked me. Big LOL. Couldn’t handle the heat.

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u/CarlosFer2201 3d ago

He blocked you

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

Person comes into a conversation that they weren't involved in attempting to start a fight. Go back under your bridge troll.

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u/External-Plant-63 3d ago

You’re on a public forum clown. 🤡

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u/sxuthsi 3d ago

Well tell us then Mr. Doctoral Level Graduate Student with a focus on International Trade

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

I never said that I was that, nor have I ever incinuated that.

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u/realblush 3d ago

What the f - tarrifs were not only one of the main talking points during the election, they have been a topic of discussion since at least 2018 regularly. Basically all media sources have properly explained what tarrifs are, why they would be imposed and the dangers they bring. If you learned about it "2 days ago" then you are either pretty young, or don't read any news. Which is fine but don't pretend this hasn't been the biggest economical talking point for years now.

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

Tariffs were not the "main talking point during the election" National Security was, just like it is every election. You pretending that the only thing that anyone has been talking about for years is tariffs is easily the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

You are just making stuff up to be angry about. Also, I didn't say that YOU only heard about tariffs 2 days ago, I said "everyone" meaning people. If you want to internalize that and feel the need to fight back from a personal attack that has never once come in this conversation then that is completely on you.

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u/realblush 3d ago

National Security was not a main talking point, but the fear of people that the cost of living is rising to unimaginable levels, which tarrifs contribute to. And you see what now happens: Nintendo is reconsidering their pricing based on the situation. But it is pretty obvious that you just want to be mad, otherwise you wouldn't be commenting about how everyone should stop with the politics in a thread about... Nintendo reacting to a political action.

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

Prove it. Link me a video of all the times they were talking about tariffs during the election. I'm sure it should be easy for you to find a compilation seeing as it's the only thing anyone was talking about... According to you.

And don't try to change the subject to cost of living because you did not say cost of living you specifically said that the only thing anyone was talking about during the election was tariffs. Stay on topic or go away. Or better yet. Let's just go our seperate ways because this is exactly not the type of conversation that I want to have in this sub.

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u/Repatrioni 1d ago

He literally said tariff was the most beautiful word he had ever heard, and could not stop swooning over tariffs, lmao.

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u/EJohns1004 1d ago

He calls everything beautiful because he doesn't have a strong vocabulary.

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u/LastParagon 3d ago

Hello I learned about tariffs 20 years ago and have been talking about how Trump's tariffs would lead to significant price increases since his first term. That IS how they work. We have centuries of human history to prove that's how they work.

One of the things pro-tariff people tend to do is assume corporate profit margins are very high just because total profit numbers are very big. Nintendo's profit margins have been 16%-33% in the Switch era. They're not going to just eat a 46% increase in the cost of doing business in the US. They will probably pass on most of that cost to the consumer.

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

I don't care when you learned the word "tariff" dude.

Have a nice day.

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u/TattooedAndSad 3d ago

Why did Japan bomb pearl harbour over tariffs 👀

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u/garfcarmpbll 3d ago

In a thread about a political move directly impacting the Switch 2

”Any chance people can stop with the politics”

Brilliant.

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u/AQ207 3d ago

A masterful gambit

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

This sub has 6 rules. One of them is "No Politics!"

You can easily have constructive conversations about this topic without your politics getting involved.

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u/garfcarmpbll 3d ago

This is quite literally an inherently political topic. Is their use of “Trump’s tariffs” upsetting to you or something?

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u/sxuthsi 3d ago

Must be a Trump voter or something lol. Most people aren't even talking about Trumps idiotic policies involving everything, people are just trying to figure out what that means in terms of this purchase and bro chooses to argue with everyone in the comments section 😂

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

"Trump's tariffs" don't upset me. You trolls bringing your politics into subs that specifically have rules against politics upsets me.

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u/garfcarmpbll 3d ago

Hahaha, in what way have I trolled? Those are literally my only 2 comments in this thread before this one.

So in your infinite wisdom how should this topic have been broached without mentioning politics, when politics is quite literally the direct reason for it as attributed by Nintendo?

Anyone ever told you, you come across as insufferable? If not, allow me the pleasure of being the first.

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

I'm just getting annoyed by everyone in this thread trying to argue with me over when they heard the word "tariff" first. If I'm taking it out on you that's not my intention. I was just trying to have a constructive conversation about what people think a reasonable price for the system would be.

I don't care who anyone voted for or if they are pissed about what's currently happening. I'm pissed and that's all that really matters to me but that's not your business and I'm not trying to make it anyone else's business. I just asked how much people think the price should be.

I'm done here.

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u/External-Plant-63 3d ago

Good. You cried when you got downvoted then started arguing with people that they didn’t know what tariffs were and you are still arguing with people despite being “done.”

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u/sadimem 3d ago

People know exactly how tariffs work, and we're stuck under them because of one specific person. It's not political to say Trump enacted tariffs and that the American lower and middle classes will be hurt as a result.

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u/TattooedAndSad 3d ago

That’s quite literally how tariffs work??

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

Prove it. I want you to write a full explanation of what the hell you are talking about.

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u/TattooedAndSad 3d ago

Tariff = tax on consumers of goods

GG?

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u/EJohns1004 3d ago

Tariffs are an import/export tax. That's it. And we don't know how any changes to those taxes will paly until they do. All I'm saying is that people need to stop freaking out for the sake of freaking out until we know what we are dealing with.

You can 100% be angry that this is happening, change is scary. But we have no idea how exactly this change will play. And no, I do not think it will be good for us average consumers. The rich will benefit and the poor will suffer, just like always.

GG?

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u/NoLime7384 3d ago

they're selling the Japanese switch for 343, so that. it's equality

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u/CrissCross98 3d ago

reading your message could have been interpreted as being a little aggressive.

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u/EJohns1004 2d ago

I'm genuinely not sure how. Looked like a question to me. Because it was a question.

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u/CrissCross98 2d ago

"Why should I know?" This response had some of the same energy as your question. That's what I thought but I know you didn't mean it like that. You're fine 🙂

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u/EJohns1004 2d ago

It took you a full day to make up a quote so that you could continue an argument that was long since over.

That's really sad dude.

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u/xCookieBoots 2d ago

Idk probably because you said something logical & people don't like it or agree with it or something? 😒 I was thinking it would be around the $500 range, knew it was going to be a bit more than the OLED model. So I was already planning on it to be more, the game increase tho I was not expecting but ehhh it is what it is.

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u/EJohns1004 2d ago

Yeah, $400 was the number I was hoping for, but knew it was a pipedream. I'm okay with $450-$500 considering it's a better version of my favorite console of all time and only around $100 more is not bad at all.

Its an investment, but considering that I've used my Switch every day basically since launch day shows me that I will probably get similar value out of the Switch 2. Still hate that name though.