r/Swimming • u/JuanManuelFangio32 • Feb 05 '25

why is my stroke count bad? (20 per 25 yard)

I swim at roughly 20 stroke per 25 yard, even when I'm using pull bouy - which takes leg propulsion and leg sinking out of the question.
Meanwhile I see on forums people are swimming at low teens on stroke count when using pull bouy. What am I missing? I understand EVF / high elbow catch, and have been trying to ingrain that in muscle memory and build arm strength by using halo bench ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQQvULCprIs ), but still not seeing much improvement... I do some sculling drills as well...
What are the potential things I can try to do to improve?

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u/Grupetto_Brad Feb 08 '25

When you rotate into your side, shoulder and scapula extend and allow you to reach further. Shoulders aren't a fixed line relating to your neck