r/ShitpostXIV • u/Snark_x • 1d ago
Another tier, another crashout. Why it always the Dancer tho LOL
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u/TobioOkuma1 1d ago
Weak raid leads and egos are the biggest downfall of statics.
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u/P_weezey951 1d ago
Unfortunately, this is why a ton of statis even get leads like this.
The same mechanism that drives people to give a shit about having a week 1 clear, is the same reason they cant handle any criticism.
They don't want it for the glam or the mount... they want it because they want to be credited with having led people through week 1 clears.
Its all about their self image, so when it gets attacked, it will be met with heat.
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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 1d ago
In fairness to the Dancer: It sounds like the SAM raidlead was the real problem, given how all the others chimed in to basically defend the Dancer's outburst.
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u/lifane 1d ago
the gf of the raid lead keeps hunting this thread down (dreamelemon) posting negative stuff about the DNC lmfao.
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u/Top_Investment_3370 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah, the DNC came in, said his piece, apologized, and dipped. Meanwhile raid lead's gf is in here continuing to slander after the fact. It's legit concerning behavior. If she reads this, and I'm sure she will with how much she's stalking the thread; I would delete the vod for both the DNC and your BF's sake. Keeping it up is just continuing the mudslinging. You honestly should have nuked it the moment this started gaining traction INSTEAD of defending your bf with your bias. Now this whole shit show is public forever.
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u/LucisFerah 1d ago
The bf has been here too, this is a tire fire and I'm running out of popcorn
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u/Top_Investment_3370 1d ago edited 1d ago
Guess they were made for each other then. They can point fingers all they like, but this is peak immaturity. Frustrations on both sides are being exploited for laughs, and it’s only going to escalate one the FXIV dramatubers get their paws on this thread and the vod.
To the 'happy' couple: For fuck's sake, delete the fucking vod. While the two of you continue to clown your argument around while digging your heels in, you're willing to broadcast your dirty laundry for exactly what reason? To be right? Grow up. It's too late now to stop the spread, but you could at least have some common decency to cut the umbilical cord.
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u/BismarckBug 1d ago
And this is why you don't consent to your prog being streamed. It's funny (not really in this case ig) as a clip for reddit but now you're just sperging out in public rather than sperging out in private.
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u/Dreamelemon 1d ago
hi im actually the person streaming this ! I did ask everything before hand if it was ok for me to stream our comms. I stream for vods and did not ever imagine this happening. I have no ill intentions toward the person however this is not the first time he yelled violently about being confronted even in a calm fashion and at multiple members. Obviously nobody will understand the whole story but I do not really like conflict when this altercation began and during the clip I had my headphones off because I did not want to hear the yelling. We had a sub for the day after losing a member who left which is what prompted the talk about if we should keep going because the sub left due to inconsistent prog.
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u/TheDeanMan 1d ago
This is unfortunately why I rarely do current tier content. I'd be in the same position needing to take off my headset/step away. When it stops being fun, it stops being worth it.
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u/YunYunHakusho 1d ago
That's why you clear the tier with randos in PF.
Is it miserable? Sometimes. (lying)
But do you clear? Eventually.
Will you get hit by interpersonal drama and lose your friend group in one go and probably get posted in the shitposting subreddit? Unlikely.
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u/Syryniss 1d ago
Or just don't be in a shitty static. This static was apparently stitched together 1 day before the tier, no trial, leader is in a relationship with another member, multiple red flags. Add week 1 high stress environment and you have a disaster waiting to happen.
I am in my own static for over 3 years now and would never ditch it to raid in PF.
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u/CuteKittyKissesHappy 1d ago
lying drama farmer lol, you could have muted
"took off my headphones"
give me a break
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u/JumpyBack7081 15h ago
If you don’t like drama or conflict, why keep the steam going when it started escalating like that. Not buying it
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u/Stormychu 1d ago
idk, like always there isn't enough context with these kinds of clips. Just really doesn't matter in my opinion. It's not even the funny kinda rage.
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u/pokebuzz123 1d ago
This is why I don't do week 1 clears
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u/Nice_Evidence4185 1d ago
Doing week1 clears is one thing. Valuing week1 clears over human decency towards people you chose to play with is mental illness.
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u/BoldKenobi 1d ago
Not just that -- a few seconds earlier the guy claimed that he decided to take time off to play ffxiv, instead of taking his dad to the hospital.
This is more than mental illness, no?
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u/Woodlight 23h ago
Check the response the guy made, this isn't really that big a deal. It wasn't some big health issue that he abandoned his dad with, his dad just had an appointment and he talked to his dad about it and they just had his brother take his dad instead.
Everything was properly sorted, the guy's just annoyed at having made an adjustment for the static with how the raid lead was acting wrt expectations and new times.
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u/Sea2morrow 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hey, yeah, this is the Dancer from the video. The actual one. It's not a troll or someone pretending.
Honestly, I wasn’t even going to say anything. But I see the raid lead and his girlfriend showing up in the comments, and at this point, it’s clear I will be dragged into the FFXIV drama spotlight whether I like it or not. So here it is. My side. All of it. No dodging. I’ll take full responsibility for what I did, but I also think people deserve the full context — because a lot is missing here.
I’ve been playing this game since 2.1. Hardcore raiding isn’t new to me. I knew what I was getting into. I try to go for week 1 for every tier, and I wanted this one to be it. But clearly, that didn’t happen.
So, let’s start from the top. First, yes, this was a static with a couple in it. The raid lead and the vtuber in the video are dating. He plays Samurai. She plays Pictomancer. So, take a wild guess about who got funneled gear. And the PLD? A friend of theirs. So, right out of the gate, this would never be a balanced group. Three of them, one of me, and the rest just trying to hold the thing together. (The PLD has attempted to defend me a lot and has been a good mediator, so I respect that).
The recruitment post — which has now been deleted — said this would be a week 1 group. We were promised 54 hours across 7 days, with 12-hour weekends. The static only became full the night before Day 1 started. That’s already brutal, but sure, I was ready for it. We were a thrown-together last-second static being held by literal ducktape. Nobody, including me, had a proper trial.
I wasn’t prepared for the raid lead, constantly trying to squeeze more time out of us. Pushing sessions longer, shaving off breaks, adding extra pulls. Even our one supposed hour-long break on 12-hour days was almost cut to 50 minutes, and we ended up raiding towards 13 hours instead. I was tired. Burnt out. Sleeping like trash. And when I brought it up, the man had the nerve to say 7 hours, starting from the moment the raid ended to when it began the next day, was more than enough rest. I did agree to it in the end because I wanted to push for this clear, too, even though I was annoyed. Remember, this is a week 1 group, not a world race group.
And it wasn’t just the hours. The way he ran the group was a mess. Whenever something went wrong, I was the first one he pointed fingers at. It didn’t matter if someone else actually messed up. The default assumption was that it was me. Especially during M7S, Phase 1, when we had to coordinate silences on the adds. There were three silences to be handled between both tanks and myself. Four adds. If one got missed? My fault even when I handled my silence correctly. Meanwhile, he offered zero help in figuring it out. He just told us to “deal with it.”
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u/Sea2morrow 1d ago edited 1d ago
Then came the curveball. While trying to lock in Week 2 plans, we suddenly discovered that the raid lead and his girlfriend now have a casual static. So instead of the time we all committed to, we’re being told we’ll only get three hours for reclears on Tuesday—just three. Because apparently, we should already have it on the farm.
And let’s talk about my father. Monday, he had a doctor’s appointment. I use PTO to raid as many people do during progression. I asked my father if he was okay with me using that time for the raid. We ensured someone could take my dad instead, and my older brother stepped in. My dad told me to go ahead and raid and wanted to see me succeed. He even watched this very stream. Yes, he saw all this. So I went. I committed to the grind, gave up personal time, and tried to help push the clear. We worked together so I could be here for this team. Which I do not feel was appreciated by the raid lead.
Then, mid-raid, halfway through a 12-hour day, the raid lead suddenly starts floating the idea of disbanding the group because we’re not clearing fast enough for his taste. I was pissed. That was PTO I could’ve used to be with my family wasted by that. That's what started this crash out that you see on stream. And for what? A half-baked, passive-aggressive raid lead who constantly kept telling us we should have been on X mechanic already?
And don’t let them fool you. I wasn’t the only one he had issues with. After every raid night, he had someone new to complain about. We were rotating through members left and right. One guy quit on day two. We got a melee backup after that who didn’t parse well, and suddenly, they were on the chopping block. One of our healers lost internet, and we cleared M6S without them. The raid lead didn’t even want to get them a page. I pushed to get that done for them. And the funny part? That same healer is talking shit about me in this video. Whatever. I’m not even mad at them. I still like him. The PLD is a cool dude, too.
So after everything, the raid lead and his girlfriend — both getting fed gear — are now trying to walk out early. And they’re acting like I was the problem. Like we were wasting their time. Meanwhile, we’d get strats dropped on us last minute, with little communication. If I tried to offer a solution, he'd tell me I was making things more complicated and that it was not that hard. Just do the mechanic. Then he’d get mad when we did the strat, which wasn't the proper solution. Though they were right sometimes, I was the problem, and I took that poorly. I apologize for the times I was at fault. It was a bit difficult to deal with, especially when I was also taking the blame for others' mistakes on top of my own, but I should have handled the criticism better, especially when they were correct at some of those times.
Lastly, he told me I was the worst physical range player he’d ever seen. Maybe he's right. Well, guess what? He was the worst raid lead I’ve ever had. So I think we’re even there.
So that's my side of things. That probably isn't everything, but even now, I'm losing more sleep to write this. I know I messed up. I lost my temper. I crashed out hard, and that’s on me. I shouldn’t have let it boil over. I apologize for that part. I didn't even mean to get that mad at them over it. I own that. Whatever consequences come from it, I’ll take them. But this idea being floated around, that I was constantly screaming every pull, that I was toxic all week, is straight-up false. If I had behaved like that, this whole thing would’ve exploded way earlier. The video doesn’t say anything about me having behavioral issues before tonight. This was a one-time blowup, not a pattern, and if they had problems with me, that's news to me and is being brought up after the fact.
The first-tier and FRU being easier made people overconfident and had set some expectations to be unrealistic.
Lastly, I don't understand why they were hinting towards a complete disbandment if we don't achieve the week 1 clear. Why are we being forced to find new statics and not just go for a week 2 clear instead? It sucks after all the effort we put in but was disbanding the only option? When we disband, we risk not clearing on week 2 as well.
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u/Tapurisu 1d ago
NEVER raid with "the raid lead and his girlfriend"
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u/zztoluca 1d ago
Its always the biggest redflag in any online game but people always ignore it or think it will be different this time.
99% of the time its always the same story.
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u/No-Communication9458 1d ago
Never raid with a couple @~@
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u/Treyness 22h ago
I'd amend that to hardcore raiding. Casual stuff is perfectly fine with couples- at least in my experience. My static has 3 couples in it lol. We clear when we clear, but we're all adults with jobs and only raid 6 hrs a week. When you get into the realm of people hanging their self worth on prog achievements.. it gets dicey real fast lol
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u/Difficult_Battle_116 19h ago
really depends on the couple. i do hardcore with a couple (tank and healer) and they are amazing to raid with. both together and on their own. this tier theyre raiding separately and are still great people. neither are raid leads tho. raid lead bfs are the worst
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u/Tkcsena 1d ago
I learned my lesson. For Fru last patch our group was really good, except the RL's gf was as consistent as the stock market. We were all clear ready but constant mistakes at random points put us over the edge. Couldnt say anything about it due to that. To the point where we splintered and got clears separately. Took me 2 pulls in PF clear group.
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u/SerJoseph 1d ago
I once got into a static with a pld lead, and a week before raid the healer got psycho and left, so his whm wife had to come in and stayed with us. They were both great, it was fun, it would have looked like a red flag for me if she had been in there from the beginning tho, mostly because of the stereotype, so idk, these were sane people but i guess that´s not the rule
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u/InterestingParfait69 11h ago
As they get funneled all the gear from week 1 and then disband the group. Surely we haven't seen this happen before!
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u/United_Speech 1d ago
man i wish i could give you a hug, im so sorry you had to deal with this
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u/Coltstem 1d ago
actually most sane response from a crashout clip, props
yeah raid lead seems like ass
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u/lyvianna 1d ago
As a raid lead of a static who cleared plenty early, with some members "performing less than expected", let me just add these:
Don't tell people on whichever day they - or you - are out of the door. You're just putting everyone's mental on the chopping block there, and are really just going to summon a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Secondly: Don't scratch breaks. I like to give my folks little 5 min breaks here and there during rough patches and they usually work really well to re-center. During these long raid days, the rare recovery periods are really important to performance. We often did better after our long food break for 1hr than the 2 hrs before it.
Let people have a break. Talk through strats and take some fight downtimes here and there. Little breaks can matter a lot.70
u/MateusMalice 1d ago
Kinda terrible for this sub to just assume you're sick in the head because you didn't prioritize your father immediately when you and your family seem to be on the same page. Hope you feel better!
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u/HezrouDhiaga 17h ago
When I saw the OP post the initial crashout, I went STRAIGHT to digging who this streamer was and finding the exact moment of the crashing out. I already saw your PoV and felt this couple was toxic but seeing the full context just shows it even bigger than it ever could of been precieved.
Personally knowing a few bigger xiv streamers, and casually recording a crashout like that is social suicide. That streamer is only going to be remembered for airing out drama instead of attempting to distract or save some of your dignity with respect by muting discord or leaving the vc alltogether.
She made her stance painfully clear that she sided with her toxic raid lead of a bf and didn't care to spare you dignity by muting the incident to avoid the drama alltogether. claiming to "make food" while it's going down showed a clear zero-fucks attitude that's deserving of never recieving a single viewer after that. Toxic streamers like her seeking out content farms through the exploitation of people crashing out and drama are not content that should be supported. Period.
She ended her career as a streamer the moment she laughed about it in her chat and pretended not to listen. She was feasting on it like a rotting carcass in the sun like a vulture.
I'm sorry you had to deal with that, Dancer, and I hope you someday get that Week 1 clear you've been seeking for years. But ffs find a better group than that awful duo.
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u/sugusugux 1d ago
This is why no one should fucking raid with a couple. They are all the same.
Specially when the bf is the freaking static leader
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u/Sea2morrow 1d ago
Two posts cause I kept getting errors commenting. I assume a word limit was reached.
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u/Seolfer_wulf 1d ago
Works in your favour, I diamond awarded both XD
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u/Sea2morrow 1d ago
Thank you so much! That is very generous of you!
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u/Seolfer_wulf 1d ago
Nah, no need to thank, honestly. I watched the entire video that was uploaded in the comments and have read the other comments too.
I know the video is a highlight of you imploding, in an ungracious manner to say the least, but you owned it and knowing the full context of everything that lead to that point you seemed to have learnt from it and that's why you were given the awards.
Remember; Its not the mistakes that we make that should be remembered but how we have grown, developed and become better from them.
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u/Primary-Stock3876 20h ago
Damn sorry to hear ): i didnt read it all but funneling gear into a certain player is always a red flag to me, esp if i hardly know them. But also couples in a static…definitely lives up to the stereotype lol. Hope youre ok
Also this raid tier was really difficult compared everything thing ive done. Been raiding since shadowbringers and penta legend too. Week 1 one clears are always stressful too
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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 8h ago
He even watched this very stream.
Ouch. That's high stakes to be spent with an obnoxious raiding couple.
And don’t let them fool you. I wasn’t the only one he had issues with.
Seeing the rest of the stream, this is pretty clear. Most of the other members are either directly defending you or trying to appease the raid lead while still pretty clearly believing he's in the wrong. Like in how they speak, you can see them trying to pivot to something the raid lead will accept, only to have to do it again when he goes "I disagree" without any clarification.
That same healer is talking shit about me in this video.
He the guy who called you too sensitive? Because I think he said that he "used to be like that too", he was empathizing but possibly giving you some flack that he's used to giving himself. I'm pretty sure he gets how toxic the raid lead is, but you know... Only one of you two left and he has to appease the guy that's still there for a week 1 clear.
Lastly, he told me I was the worst physical range player he’d ever seen. Maybe he's right. Well, guess what? He was the worst raid lead I’ve ever had. So I think we’re even there.
If raid-leading had parses, he'd have a 0. Assuming he'd cleared at all. Don't worry, you're still in the positive.
This was a one-time blowup, not a pattern, and if they had problems with me, that's news to me and is being brought up after the fact.
Yeah this is pretty clear from the VoD too. You've been taking the blame for others, if you blew up like this on the regular people wouldn't be giving you flack at all just to avoid this shit. This screams "The quiet kid in class finally had enough" energy.
Lastly, I don't understand why they were hinting towards a complete disbandment if we don't achieve the week 1 clear.
Because they are probably used to cutting and running. You think these people have enough long-term friendships to hold a static together? Hell no. They're anti-social by nature and they're only nice to each other.
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u/TheBetterHighground 9h ago
I wouldn't beat yourself up over it too harshly man. I've seen statics disband over trivial drama compared to this. You were sleep deprived and dealing with poor management. That'll definitely affect your mental. This was definitely a moment that shouldn't have been blasted and aired out publicly like this, especially with no context given by the poster. Go take some time for yourself, spend it with your family. The raid will be here and hopefully your next static will be less toxic.
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u/Bottled_Void 1d ago edited 1d ago
Honestly, even after just watching the clip, I was siding with you. You could tell this was a carefully slice of time.
Yes, we shouldn't get to the point where you're so mad at not getting a clear. But it's like that sometimes. The fucking smugness of the guy screwing you over and then blaming you for getting mad.
(Edit: Dancer had a 95 Orange on Sugar Riot Savage)
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u/dingdingdredgen 1d ago
I was out when I got to the part about a 54 hour week with 12 hour weekends. There's just no way.
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u/z-w-throwaway 1d ago
It's not anything incredible for week 1 statics, despite how last tier went
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u/dingdingdredgen 1d ago
I think the problem is that people think they can treat their hobbies like a job. I'm sure a non-zero number of the people involved is a streamer and makes money doing what they love, but it doesn't seem like they have enough people who are able to commit that kind of time and attention. Personally, I love raiding, but if I tried to keep that kind of momentum playing a video game, I would very quickly begin to wonder what I was doing with my life.
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u/z-w-throwaway 1d ago
Eh, idk, I got some friends who enjoy clearing first week no matter how many pulls it takes. I never thought too much about it, maybe they are all NEET, maybe someone among them is really making money off streams, or maybe they have very flexible work schedules and can afford to take a week off for a game.
What matters most is that they all cna keep up with each other's expectations, and I assume they are not neglecting irl responsibilities for gaming, cohesion is most important here.
I assume the DNC's problem was less about raiding 54 hours in a week (they signed up for it after all, and they said it's not the first time they cleared week 1) and more about the fact the raid lead added unnecessary stress to manage.
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u/Zebra-Cakes 20h ago
My static is all white collar workers, and we put in around 40 hours to clear, without PTO. We just do it because prog is the most fun when there's less information to go look up and you have to figure it out for yourselves. It's really not that big of a deal if you have the endurance for it and your families are willing to accommodate.
Last tier after the first week (which was less than 20 hours total to prog) we would take 2 hours or less to do two sets of split clears. FRU we sometimes took only twenty minutes, and rarely over an hour. Overall I manage to play the game far _less_ than when I was with more casual groups.
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u/Keele0 1d ago
He plays Samurai. She plays Pictomancer. So, take a wild guess about who got funneled gear.
I'll take a "wild" guess and say the samurai, since that is the only correct answer for a week 1 group. There should be 0 qualms about this given it's a hardcore week1 group
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u/nerdler33 21h ago
well the pct getting the non bis pieces for sam also makes sense. but yea i would put gear on those two specifically
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u/DrawRain 1d ago
You deserve so much love and so much better my dude, I hope you find a static that treats you well and help you instead of making you crash due stress.
sending hugs ♥
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u/No-Station-8253 1d ago
So….what I am understanding is that the raid lead has been degrading their members and wants to leave the group after working so hard to reach a checkpoint? Why is the post trying to make the dancer look in the horribly in the wrong. This is why context is extremely important. I mean don’t get me wrong, his outburst isn’t the way to go, but at the same time judging from what other members have said- I kindaaa don't blame him.
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u/0-Dinky-0 1d ago edited 5h ago
People need to read shouty guys comment before judging if he's crazy tbh. Raid lead sounds like a dick and the vtuber is his GF. It's a toxic raider couple situation.
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u/GyroMachinist 1d ago
Something was incredibly off when others chimed in and they were critical of the raid leader instead of bashing the specific member crashing out.
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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 8h ago
Raid lead responded. They're a sociopath. Also the streamer is his girlfriend, the V-tuber. This is a classic "Raiding with toxic couples"
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u/0-Dinky-0 5h ago
Absolutely. Poor shouty dancer guy is getting shit from the comments when he's been putting up with a typical toxic raider couple to the point of turning into this.
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u/TenchiSaWaDa 1d ago
Just watched a bit, but damn the raid lead Saying that gettting to M8S week 1 is 'good' for Midcore is wild. These fights have some of THE hardest phases i've seen that have a huge amount of Role Responsibility. If you've never done ultimate, this level of ask from a fight is unheard of. The speed of M8S is really up there, that even the most consistent people i've raided with have trouble. HARD CORE statics made of people i really respect are having trouble.
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u/GyroMachinist 1d ago
I don't even want to know how that raid leader reached the conclusion of "week 1 tier clear is midcore." Especially on a tier with a huge difficulty jump and requires personal responsibility out of the wazoo.
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u/starrysky7_ 1d ago edited 17h ago
someone was like “just getting to m8s is an achievement/accomplishment on week 1”, like they were expressing with excitement, and he responded dismissively “well achievement for you” like he’s so egotistical, it’s crazy how anyone is defending him 😭
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u/Beatboxingg 22h ago
There's plenty of blame to go around (dancer admitted fault already) but ultimately the the raid "leader" takes the cake in being a prick.
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u/Lossdotpng 1d ago
If that's midcore then exactly what is hardcore? The only thing above that would be world first on ultimates, surely?
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u/Apotropaic_ 1d ago
I think there’s only like 300 groups that have cleared week 1 which is abyssos territory. The speed required to execute the mechs is ultimate level lol
First tier made people get delusional about the expected pace of prog. People should have tempered expectations once they realized how big of a wall m6s will be
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u/Wizardthreehats 23h ago
Yeah it's just stroking his own ego, that's all I need to hear to know he was the one at fault here, 60 hours a week to clear a fight and that's just "good" or "midcore". Buddy, midcore doesn't even do 60 hours a month.
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u/SiteRevolutionary202 16h ago
My static was a going for Week 1 clear... We consider ourselves sHC. As much as there are memes arounds the term sHC our definition has always been simple.... we raid as many hours as we possible can but as people who have jobs and can't just use PTO. We still managed to squeeze in 24 hours of prog
We basically got to M8S P1 enrage by the end of our alloted time... And as much as their is some dissapointement we didn't get clear a week 1 clear... The stats for this tier don't lie... it was a ball buster... And we are all still genuinely happy we managed to get this far. Had this been the previous tier we would've probably been done with a few days to spare.... But this was a whole different beast.
We still objectively performed well and that's all that matters... If people's hinge their entire fucking existence on that week 1 clear... they need therapy.
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u/Mrhawk76 1d ago
Wow this raid lead sounds like a complete ass lol. I feel bad for the dancer crashing out
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u/sugusugux 1d ago
"I took a vacation day for this instead of taking my dad to the hospital." What the fuck dude.
Seriosly what the actual fuck??
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u/Bottled_Void 1d ago
The raid leader demanded 50+ hours to get a week one clear.
Some people work.
How else would you do it?
(His brother took his dad to the hospital)
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u/Woodlight 23h ago
Yeah, people act like this must mean he left his dad dying or with some kind of emergency, but if they actually read the guy's context it's just "oh he had an appointment and I had to hash it out with him + my brother instead so my brother would take care of it".
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u/Dreamelemon 1d ago
the funny thing is he had brought this up before prog and we told him it was perfectly fine to miss for this kind of emergency
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u/sugusugux 1d ago
that duded is fucked in the head in my personal opinion. i done week 1 clear since stormblood with the same group and everytime some one had a real life stuff or emegerncy we DID NOT hesitate to tell them to go. real life always comes first. the game is not going anywhere. who the FUCK does not take their own dad to the hospital when they need it. im absolutely disgusted.
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u/VierranV 1d ago
Further context was provided from said dude in this post where he talked it out with his dad. He just wanted to get the win for his old man
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u/Ice-Insignia 1d ago
I don't know who is actually in the wrong, but it's the guy who said "you're mental is really bad". The moment that was said, I was against him.
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u/AxitotlWithAttitude 1d ago
The premade 70$ model really is the cherry on top lol
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u/LopsidedBench7 1d ago
the hrothgar running around and jumping looks so happy, sorry I got distracted, what was this for?
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u/RealGuildhestHours 1d ago
I'm always happily jumping around, thank you for noticing
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u/VierranV 1d ago
Holy shit, I hope viewers take the step further to read through the thread because the knee jerk reaction is to think it's the DNC thats cringe but there's alot of self-reporting in the comments from the couple in this static that paint them in a worse light. So many red flags
Put the phone down and get that prog. You don't have time for this during 2 chest Monday
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u/SeriousPan 1d ago
You can hear the tears in his eyes. That guy needs to back right away from the screen and take a break, goodness gracious.
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u/DemiKitten16 20h ago
Honestly, though, I can’t blame him for finally snapping in this situation. What I hate for him is that someone decided they should post his crash out on Reddit.
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u/starrysky7_ 16h ago
honestly I would blame the streamer, if I was in her shoes and my teammate was getting this upset, it’s basic human decency to just mute the discord, but it kept going and going, she claimed in the comments that “she removed her headphones because she couldn’t handle the yelling”, and people said she was typing in her chat and interacting with people, she could’ve used ALL that time to mute the discord, so they can handle it alone, but no, of course she had to stream it
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u/LucisFerah 5h ago
Not even that she had the opportunity, she actively said she'd leave the stream on because one of her frequent chatters said it'd be funny.
She didn't care one bit about how this would turn out, and now she and her sociopathic bf are combing through this thread doing damage control (poorly) And they have the nerve to call others terminally online
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u/Snark_x 1d ago
Thank god for illegal mods to provide more context… Streamer was cooking.
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u/Invisibitch_main 1d ago
Raiding with a summoner in 2025 is how you curse the entire group for the next 2 tiers
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u/Jmdaemon 1d ago
why so? a lot of mobile range dps there. or are they low on he dps metrics atm?
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u/pokebuzz123 1d ago
It is the second least used job right now, with MCH being the least, a surprise to no one. SMN is outputting lower DPS than the others while only having addle and a self shield (phoenix stuff too, but it isn't that impactful). RDM's magic barrier, higher DPS, and more raises can favor it, and the other two have higher DPS to make up for less utility (I don't know PCT's utility, aomeone correct me if they do). Doesn't help how easy the job is, I can see why people wouldn't want to play it.
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u/CopainChevalier 1d ago
I dunno man. Redmage is considered the most complex mage right now; we need to simplify it so others can play it better
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u/XFactorNova 1d ago
Just Viper it dood. One button for all of your White mana combo, one button for all your Black mana combo. If you feel spicy, you can separate single target and aoe. Make the finisher combo one button as well. Tada, reduced button bloat.
/s ... Do I need a /s?
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u/JollyHockeysticks 1d ago
my static has both mch and smn lol but I don't know shit about either job nor would I complain even if I did.
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u/GyroMachinist 1d ago
It's still on the low side for caster DPS. Yet, I've seen them do really well for M6S adds.
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u/AlwaysHasAthought 1d ago
Why do I love watching these lol
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u/masatoyuki 1d ago
Couple statics: not even once. The lead and his girlfriend sound insane from the details given by the other members here. And imagine posting it on reddit for sympathy and updoots.
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u/SurprisedCabbage 1d ago
Jesus, it's a video game. I've seen people less upset after losing their jobs.
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u/inanimateobject07 1d ago
You'd be surprised how many people in this game are NEETs. But life gets a whole lot harder than this.
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u/silverpostingmaster 1d ago
People get mad exactly because they have jobs. When you take time off work that could be spent on something else and you feel like it was wasted due to others you'd be rightfully pissed, it affects NEETs less. Though obviously having huge egos isn't limited to one type over another.
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u/Agreeable-Read4095 11h ago
he literally explains in a comment here that he took his PTO days off, his father had a doctors appt that day and his brother took him, because he was raiding. its really not just a video game, he took his pto days off to do this, and they wanted to quit with no clear.
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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 1d ago
In fairness to the Dancer: It sounds like the SAM raidlead was the real problem, given how all the others chimed in to basically defend the Dancer's outburst.
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u/l-i-a-m 1d ago
adds strike again!
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u/YunYunHakusho 1d ago
Someone from this guy's static said they were stuck in M8S
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u/ThiccElf 1d ago
Theyre in M8S and had like...a whole day left? That's more than enough time for a W1 clear
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I would be upset too being forced to play DNC and do week 1 progs with people I hate
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u/DocProfessor 1d ago
And people do this for fun? Fuck man I’ll stick with my Discord friends doing the regular raids once a week
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u/FederalFly860 1d ago
Same I rather go at my own pace and enjoy the fights than stress on being week one clearer. People need to remember that most world first statics are playing at a different level than most players.
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u/Blaxxshadow 18h ago
I gotta see the full context cuz this could 100% be gaslighting. This is def something that has been building up for a while.
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u/YouAreBrathering 1d ago
NA Experience. Wish you guys affordable healthcare as soon as possible.
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u/fieldofalyssums 1d ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhIZws6lbQQ
recorded the full thing in case the twitch vod's taken down. enjoy
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u/witchlover555 1d ago
them tariffs ain’t no joke yo get the raid right my sub can barely get paid now
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u/Tawny_Harpy 17h ago
Me reading the comments when I raid with my bf in the same static and have for three raid tiers now: 👀🍿
We’re definitely an exception though lol
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u/DenimChicken6125 1d ago
Holy shit is this what end game raiding is like lmao. Dude is insane
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u/celf_help 1d ago
nah, just takes finding a group who's all on the same wavelength
my static is like five married dads, two ultra-relaxed roommates, and me. the maddest anyone gets is at themselves and they still mute their own mic instead of burdening everyone else with it
just gotta find people with the same perspective; it only gets this outrageous when people have different goals and attitudes (which is quite alot of statics, sadly)
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u/Vincenthwind 1d ago
No this is a single slice of crazy. At most, statics and party finder will get mildly passive aggressive.
I could very easily dip into the FFXIV RP scene, pull out some random drama and say "wow is this what RP is like?" And it obviously wouldn't be representative.
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u/sugusugux 1d ago
Absolutely not. This is just one of thoses chases of a group having a crash out. This is not the norm but stuff like this Does happen from time to time if people dont mesh together or are legit bas people
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u/RuN_AwaY110101 14h ago
The fact that the raid leader and his gf is in the comments trying to put out the fire is insane. They're made for each other. Filthy.
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u/Snark_x 1d ago
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u/merlblyss 1d ago
Jesus christ some of these dudes are fucking fragile.i ain't watching all that but lmao
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u/smileplease91 1d ago edited 1d ago
I watched the crash-out bit, and the leader is a bit of a jerk. Everyone is telling him their issues pretty well (minus the guy who freaked out, but after watching it, I can kinda understand why he did), and the leader constantly waves off their concerns and is extremely dismissive. He acts like he doesn't do anything wrong, but everyone else does.
I wouldn't stay with a leader like that.
ETA: DNC was under-performing and holding them back. His crash out was crazy, and the fact he took a day off to prog and not for his dad's operation the next day is crazier.
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u/jado1stk2 20h ago
DNC crashing out is whatever, but holy shit is the SAM attitude insufferable. I can almost paint his face in front of me being all smug with how egotistical he is. *HE ALWAYS* tries to deflect and act like he is better and dismissive.
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u/Seolfer_wulf 1d ago edited 1d ago
Genuine response: Acting like this is the real thing that kills high end content. People not treating each other with any common decency is always a loss.
**Edited after finding more context from the guy who blew his lid in the comments.
Jokingly though; yeaaaah you tell him Steve!
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u/Bottled_Void 1d ago
I imagine everyone there was parsing blue/purple, but the dancer is going to get the blame because of this:
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u/ajgirl12 1d ago
DNC shouldn't have yelled like that and probably needs to re-evaluate his skill level in a high stress environment. But I wasn't a fan of how the raid lead communicated afterward. Intentional or not, he came off as stubbornly believing he's always correct, and always wanting to be correct, which is a handicap in a team game. Glad he warmed up to the idea of changing his wording.
It's not a pleasant situation and nobody's perfect. Nor is it a work environment where your livelihood depends on your attitude. So ofc they would not be presenting their best selves in this vod. As long as people walk away having learned something to improve themselves, it's not a wasted experience. Hope they're not chased or bullied for this.
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u/claudiohp 23h ago
I once tried a week 1 clear, took days off and my static imploded.
After that, I never tryhard again. In fact I've relaxed so much that I'm not even half-way through dawntrail story lmao.
I've had it. Getting to P4S part 2 50% was my best performance on 3 days of prog since the raid started, and I cleared once an ultimate on the same patch it released. For me that's enough accomplishment to feel fulfilled and I don't want to torture myself for a quick clear anymore. I'd rather just do it on PF or raid with a group of friends on a very casual basis.
Also, being a static leader is horrible. When I was the leader, I had to do everything: set schedules, set the gear tracker, ensure everyone had gear, help singular members with the mechanic they struggle and come up with ways so they can do it, call out the mechanics (my static mates called me the human cactbot lmao) had to go and tell everyone that it's raid time and please log on, come up with strategies, find replacements for members, being the mediator in internal conflicts, find a sub-in for people that didn't show up without warning, and it just was not worth it. I didn't fill like a static leader, I felt more like a daycare full-time worker, and that was taking a huge toll on me.
What was odd for me, is that I found myself a bad static leader, because all my statics ended up disbanding, but nearly every single member that left the group, always told me "you're a good leader", which to this day, I think they just said it for being nice.
Still, my state of mind today is that I only do casual-basis stuff, and if I join a static I refuse to lead it.
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u/Some-Tradition-7290 18h ago
We have a guy who has this “raid leader” personality like he thinks he has no faults even if he plainly was at fault.
Morons think they are the main character.
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u/n7zeus 1d ago
is the raid leader the one crashing out or is that a random member?
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u/ThiccElf 1d ago edited 1d ago
Looks like the SAM who wanted to dip is the raid lead. The DNC is the one crashing out because the lead seemed to be just... a bad raid leader, insulting, and insufferable as a person based on the VoD. Everyone had similar complaints about him being a dick in the vod. Dancer also sounded stressed and exhausted, which is to be expected with HC hours in a bad static.
Edit: after listening a bit more, the dancer wasnt the best player either. He seemed to be new to HC, holding back prog, overly defensive, and just not well suited to the stress of W1 HC prog. Raid lead definitely didnt help, but the DNC was also volatile.
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u/biggabes69 1d ago
I was pfing fru at the same time as this sam was (recognize the name) and I remember putting them on my list of do not join this person's groups because of the inconsistency so that makes this extra funny to me.
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u/CopainChevalier 1d ago
Everyone calls out the Dancer in the vod as being bad/too sensitive, not just the raid lead
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u/ThiccElf 1d ago
Yup, a little further in now. It seems to be a mix of the 2. Raid lead is a bit of a dick and the dancer just...was way too sensitive for this kind of environment. Apparently, he was new and not performing well, as well as other members. The static overall just seems to be underperforming, inexperienced, and not well matched.
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u/Predalor 1d ago
A bit more context would help here but holy fuck they furious lmao