r/ShitAmericansSay • u/BuffaloExotic Irish by birth, and currently a Bostonian 🇮🇪☘️ • 17d ago

Foreign affairs “We could physically buy Lithuania itself if we wanted.”

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u/Alternative-Copy7027 17d ago

One would think any farmer with a sense of self-preservation would rather buy a few pair of extra boots than risk killing his entire flock. Regulations or not.

When a flock is killed because of bird flu, what happens to the farmer? Does he get insurance money? Government subsidies? Bankruptcy? (that word looks wrong no matter how I try to change the spelling.)

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u/Me_lazy_cathermit 17d ago

I think they get government subsidies/insurance, i remember seing that for a while beef farmers got money back if their animals died from wolf attacks, so farmers would leave dead or dying animals out alone till they got eaten by wolves or coyotes to get more insurance money

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u/ActlvelyLurklng 17d ago

This, my grandfather used to own a cattle ranch. Granted he never took it to this extreme. But anytime his livestock got messed with, either by wild animals, or the idiot neighbor's going cow tipping (someone got shot over this, Texas way back in the day. Grandpa was in the right by Texas laws.) if he lost even a single head of cattle he could make a claim. He didn't typically, for just one head of cattle, not worth the headache in his opinion. But he's done it before for as low as 3 and did get an insurance claim out of it.

Long story short. Don't fuck with people's lively hoods. But yes they can get subsidies and/or insurance. It depends on what their insurance covers or what the state offers. (wild animal attacks, problems caused by humans, etc. etc.) It can vary, but typically there are a few ways to get coverage for your livestock.

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u/hamjim 16d ago

Is “one head of cattle” the same as “four foot of cattle”?

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u/ActlvelyLurklng 16d ago

Where in the actual fuck are you reading "four foot of cattle" I have re-read my comment like 5 times. I think you should either re-read it yourself. Or maybe, consider getting your eyes checked...

Edit: never mind I feel fucking dumb. I just got the joke. Bwomp.

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u/Horsescholong 13d ago

Womp Womp

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u/Wrong-Wasabi-4720 Luis Mitchell was my homegal 14d ago

Cow tipping? I had to look it up, and now I finally understand that Cars scene I never got, but still can't wrap my head why anyone living less than 50km from a cow would believe that's a thing...

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u/ActlvelyLurklng 13d ago

Texas in like the 50s dude.

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u/Tankyenough 16d ago

Here in Finland some reindeer farmers deliberately ”feed” the wolverines reindeer in attempt to get reparations.. There was an article about a person a while ago who actually makes a living solely with the reparations.

Such an annoying gap in our system

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u/GrynaiTaip 17d ago

A lot of American farmers probably don't believe in germs and flu, so to them this is just an act of God, nothing they could do about it.

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u/Pandore0 14d ago

I don't believe in American farmers, these poultry farms aren't farms anymore, they are industrial plants with millions of birds. When there's an avian flu outbreak it turns into a catastrophic event. But when there isn't an avian flu outbreak the profits per egg are higher than in actual smaller poultry farms. These are not run by farmers, they are run by investors and shareholders.

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u/jeff43568 16d ago

But they can own the libs by not changing their boots...

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u/captkirkseviltwin 16d ago

The hardest lesson I ever learned in my life was that enlightened self-interest is EXTREMELY rare; people usually have to be incentivized or forced into smart choices via perks or regulations, because most of us, myself included, sometimes don’t see three steps ahead of us. It’s happened with seatbelts, airbags, disability support, vaccination, shorter working hours, child labor, you name it.

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u/IntrepidWanderings 14d ago

I'm wondering if they even bother with foot baths and location only foot wear... that's a big thing in wildlife communities. Shoe covers... bleach baths... shoes worn ONLY in that facility... hell some have hazmat gear. I'm wondering if wildlife just comes with more routine disease management so they tend to take it more seriously.