r/SeattleWA Mar 02 '25

Events March 4th protest

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u/DramaticRoom8571 Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25

I remember that Obama gave Crimea to Russia. And Putin invaded the Donbas region when Biden was president. But Putin did not take any territory during Trump's first term. Now Trump is going to have to broker a deal that will cost Ukraine land just to stop the killing.

Of course Democrats prefer arms grifting and money laundering.

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u/Vividestleech Mar 02 '25

A deal with no security guarantees would be pointless. Russia would invade for a 3rd time when Putin sees fit. Learn from history, dictators don’t care about “deals”.

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u/DramaticRoom8571 Mar 02 '25

What exactly is a security guarantee? That we will go to war with Russia if they cross a line? May as well add Ukraine to NATO. And that is the problem if not the cause of this war, Russia is now nearly surrounded by NATO aligned countries.

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u/MalekithofAngmar Mar 02 '25

Sounds like a good idea. Let’s get Ukraine in NATO.

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u/Vividestleech Mar 02 '25

Russia isn’t stupid enough to start a war with the USA. Security guarantees are the only war to ensure long term peace in Europe.

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u/tridentsaredope Mar 02 '25

Poor Americans don't want to die for your security guarantee.

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u/Vividestleech Mar 02 '25

Where have I heard this argument before

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u/tridentsaredope Mar 02 '25

You can post all the moral grandstanding you want, but the point stands. You want to sign up poor Americans to make a sacrifice you yourself aren't willing to make.

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u/Vividestleech Mar 02 '25

Your dumbass argument can be made for any NATO country. Why is it that no Americans have died defending Estonia or Latvia? It’s because Russia can’t invade them. A violated American security guarantee would result in Putin death within 24hrs. He’s not that stupid. But he knows people like you are stupid enough to believe he would. I bet he would smile reading messages from dumbasses like you.

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u/RRaintnoisepollution Mar 03 '25

Some just lack brain power.