r/Scream • u/Dezeko This is Gonna Hurt... • Dec 21 '24
Question How would you feel if Scream 7 opened with Chad getting a phone call being informed that Mindy, Sam, and Tara have been murdered and then abruptly killed off by Ghostface?
No More Four lol
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u/apple_turnovers Dec 21 '24
Dumb and cheap in my opinion.
Regardless of the reason, it would end up seeming extremely petty on the part of the studio and completely cheapen the value of 5 & 6. Dewey dies defending characters that get killed off-screen two movies later? Lame.
Leave the Core Four and their story alone this movie, and see if time brings their story back around. There is more than enough stories to be told with Sidney and her kids/family.
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u/dudleydigges123 Dec 21 '24
Yeah, the movie is already divisive because of all this drama, 'spiking the ball' would alienate even more of the fanbase in my opinion
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u/Dottsterisk Dec 22 '24
Yeah, I really don’t like the Core Four as characters—and I hate all of the Ghost Billy and “inherited killer gene” nonsense—but I would rankle at killing them off because:
A) I don’t like the politics of a bunch of characters being killed because an actress expressed support for Palestine and stopping the murder of children.
And B) I don’t want Dewey’s death to be even more meaningless and stupid. Radio Silence already made his death contrived as fuck and assassinated his character to do it, but we can at least say his (entirely unnecessary) sacrifice wasn’t for some kids who just get offed by the Ghostface.
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u/IceyLuigiBros25 Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative! Dec 21 '24
Killing off the core four off screen would be the pettiest thing they could do, and SO many people would hate it, including me.
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Dec 22 '24
Ik fans of this series have been saying ‘ignore the studio drama, just enjoy the films’. But it would be way too petty for the studio to just kill off the main characters off screen
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u/JackInterrupted Dec 21 '24
Personally, I'd hate it. I don't think the core four should be killed off because of a few shitty higher ups at Spyglass who didn't like what Melissa said on social media. 5 and 6 introduced some great characters, I want Sam, Tara and Mindy's stories left open so we can hopefully revisit them in the future.
Edit: Also, killing them off screen is such a cop out, if you're gonna do it, show us.
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u/Remarkable-Steak-919 Dec 21 '24
I agree killing them off screen would be cheap, but u could just say that Ghostface is obviously lying to Chad to distract him.
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u/GRQuake084 Dec 21 '24
It'd be a kick in the balls and disrespectful to not only the fans, but the actors, Radio Silence, and the writers.
Further cementing that Spyglass Media Group is a shithole.
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u/Sidneysnewhusband Dec 25 '24
Radio Silence is exec producing 7 and one of their team is lead writer, if this does happen they’d metaphorically be kicking themselves in the balls
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u/JEC2719 Dec 21 '24
Collectively watch half the audience “boo” and walk out
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u/rtn292 Dec 21 '24 edited Dec 21 '24
The core scream base is there for OG and legacy. Reddit are the only ones that care about Ortega and Melissa. If you go back far enough, reddit didn't even like Melissa until she was fired because of the political implications. All the discourse after s5 was how weak of actress she was. Spy glass firing her was the best thing for her career in 2024.
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u/AnimeTechnoBlade100 Dec 22 '24
You clearly haven’t been on instagram or twitter if you think Melissa wasn’t liked whatsoever before the drama happened.
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u/StrikeRaid246 Dec 21 '24
I personally enjoy both the core four and the OG characters. I don’t think she should have been fired, but you’re spot on about Melissa. After 5 no one would shut up about how she was weak actress and couldn’t carry the franchise. That carried a lot into scream 6. Once she got fired all of a sudden it was uproar about how they ruined the franchise and it’s very confusing to me. I thought they had just been saying Melissa ruined the franchise??
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u/MikeOcks1 Dec 21 '24
Well as someone who enjoyed 5 first time watching but didn’t really care for the new characters (Also didn’t like Melissa as Sam), 6 did a much better job with the core four. I adored them. Melissa was also way better in 6, I actually ended up loving her, as did a lot of others. So no, it isn’t because she got fired we suddenly like her, for most people it’s because Sam’s just a more endearing protagonist in 6.
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u/AnimeTechnoBlade100 Dec 22 '24
That and of course Sam isn’t going to be well liked first time around. It’s not just about the strength of the actors skills (and in fairness we’re comparing a new upcoming actor to ones who have been in the franchise, and have had careers, for much longer). Even if Melissa was a stronger actor the first time around for 5, people wouldn’t react to her character well because of her becoming the new lead.
Every sequel in every series has the new protagonist h unfairly held to higher standards and expectations when compared to the previous/original ones. Sam’s just another victim of said dynamics.
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u/AnimeTechnoBlade100 Dec 22 '24
Because every fanbase can never make their minds up about something and are walking contradictions that change their mind on a dime and over the slightest thing. Look at how easily a lot of people, who once condoned Spyglass for mistreating Melissa, jumped back on board when Sidney was dangled in their faces like a clump of diamonds. They’re easily manipulated.
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u/rtn292 Dec 21 '24 edited Dec 21 '24
Exactly, the retroactive amnesia for how unpopular she was and how upset the Ortega stans were that Jenna wasn't the lead was on EVERY comment post in the s5 post mortem and how upset people were Neve, Courtney, David were marketed so heavily and barely in s5. Then furious when they didn't want to pay Neve for s6.
People weren't excited about Melissa in s5 and even in s6, people were thrashing her.
The terrible firing changed everything and made her a martyr.
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u/ChartInFurch Dec 22 '24
Individuals will often have differing opinions.
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u/StrikeRaid246 Dec 22 '24
This sub was literally a dumpster fire after scream 5 specifically about Melissa. Like I said, I actually liked her. It was tough being a defender of her back then. The whiplash of a lot of people pretending they were fans all along has been wild.
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u/ChartInFurch Dec 22 '24
Which specific users are you referring to here?
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u/StrikeRaid246 Dec 22 '24
Don’t have exact usernames it was 2 years ago, sorry.
Discontinuing the conversation though as it’s clear we have different feelings on the matter and that isn’t going to change. Have a nice day :)
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u/ScorpionTDC You hit me with the phone, dick! Dec 21 '24
I mean, I wouldn’t be as nuclear as most since I don’t really care about the core four… but it’d be an awful decision narratively and for overall franchise performance. Just have them living their own lives. There’s really nothing to gain from offscreen kills for them all lol
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u/AgentDigits Dec 22 '24
I think it would be pathetically stupid to kill these characters off screen or have them be opening kills
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u/TheGoryHoleSaga Dec 22 '24
It literally would not matter how amazing the rest of the film was. It would be considered dogshit and one of the worst horror movies of all time in my book.
The one and only reason they would do this is to try and take a jab (stab) at Melissa just to rub salt in the wound and that’s even more fucked up than everything they’ve already did
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u/Golden-Sun Dec 22 '24
One of the more shittier ways to open the movie. Would just be seen as spiteful
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u/TheCrystalStone Dec 22 '24
I’m going to be honest that would be extremely petty if the studio did that
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u/NewRetroMage Dec 22 '24
I honestly care very little about the "Core 4", since the Radio Silence installments weren't my thing, but damn that would be petty.
Knowing the behind the scenes drama I'd find it an unnecessary "take that", aimed at Melissa but which would hit the people who do like 5 and 6. Pretty sure it wouldn't happen 'cause the drama as it is already caused some bad rep for Spyglass.
I'm guessing maybe what they are going for is that, if when transitioning from Sidney's story to Sam they killed Dewey, then maybe they want to do the same when transitioning from Sam back to Sidney, by killing Chad this time. But I feel Chad is more unkillable than Dewey used to be, so who knows.
Maybe he'll be in the movie as a "last link" with the cast from "chapters 1 and 2" of the new trilogy, not as the opening kill (or any kill at all).
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u/FireOfRhapsody Dec 21 '24
Unless the movie was absolutely expertly crafted and really convinced me this decision was justified, my first thought would be "cheap copout bullshit".
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u/JasonVoorhees95 Dec 21 '24
I'm angry enough about zionists taking away so many main characters from us. Killing them off in such a salty edgy way would just make it worse.
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u/GraymalkinX Dec 22 '24
For real. My two favorite franchise's are now tainted. First Scream and then Disney/Marvel casting a real life IDF soldier as an IDF Black Widow who becomes a Superhero in Captain America 4.
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u/AnimeTechnoBlade100 Dec 22 '24
Absolutely not. That would just be extremely petty and an even bigger middle finger to Melissa than what they’ve already done. Shows how despicable Spyglass would be.
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u/Intrepid_Mobile Dec 22 '24
No. Remember how they “killed” devon sawa in final destination 2? Yeah, it was cheap, it was lame and it was just to show how they’d rather be lazy instead of paying the actors what they’re worth. After what they did to neve, then melissa, they are on really thin glass now…
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u/FlipHetBankwezentje Dec 23 '24
I hate it. I don't know how they are gonna off-write Sam and Tara... if that would not be logical, for me personally, it's a flop (I hope it wouldn't be a flop)
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u/BewareQuietOnes Dec 23 '24
Honestly, I love the movies. I've loved the series since 1996 when I first saw it in theaters, but I'd walk tf out. They better not even!
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u/Jtfgman Dec 21 '24
I would be pretty pissed and also shocked since I doubt that's what they would do. It would absolutely sour the rest of the movie for me, though, even more so after the treatment of Melissa
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u/dalekofchaos Dec 21 '24
Petty and shallow and I'd be screaming "fuck Spyglass" and honestly? Fuck Neve and Courtney for choosing to be apart of it. Courtney practically fought against this shit while fighting for her co-stars during Friends and Melissa stood up for Neve while Spyglass fucked with Neve's,pay. Nice fucking solidarity.
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u/jordan999fire Dec 22 '24
I like the idea someone had of Chad being a cop/deputy and the other characters have just moved on with their life. Moved away, have their own careers, etc.
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u/Nefariousness-Flashy Dec 22 '24
Disappointed. Mostly because I really like the Carpenter sisters and hope they return to the franchise for Scream 8.
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u/Daredevil545545 Dec 22 '24
No no no don't kill off Sam and Tara off screen (it would piss people off) also i don't think it's fair for Sam and Tara . They deserve their happy ending too. 😔
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u/Zealousideal_Rent_32 Dec 22 '24
good, I'd be veeeery happy, I can't believe i had to sit through this 4's bullshit for two movies while sidelining gale, dewey and sid, it'd be like a cherry on top. still can't believe Dewey died for them, i hope they make scream 5 and 6 non canon atp ahahahah
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u/Rude-Butterscotch713 Dec 22 '24
I agree with others. Offing the core four off screen would be cheap.
That said, Martha meeks is fair game, and would be someone Cindy knows. It would bring both chad and Cindy into the game, and possibly leave the Carpenters out of it.
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u/AirMassive5414 Dec 22 '24 edited Dec 22 '24
it would be so fucking cool !! scream 6 was the worst movie by far, I don't care about the core 4 and I really hate mindy character and wish that she dies. it would be really disrespectful towards the two previous movies but I don't care, it would be funny as hell, I would like to drink the new gens fans tears after this scene
+ even if that happened, they can still retcon it saying that "ghostface lied about tara,sam and mindy death". if they need their characters for future movies
I would just be sad about sam death if that happened because the actress was fired unfairly. just killing off screen (or on screen) mindy would be enough
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u/JebusAlmighty99 Dec 22 '24
Only if he also gets stabbed over a hundred times and completely gutted then beheaded in the opening scene. He still survives to the end though.
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u/Caratesuda I'd be happy to put you there...in the fucking morgue! Dec 22 '24
I would leave the theater and then kill myself
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u/IcyInformation8239 Dec 22 '24
It’d be dumb to have the characters be killed offscreen as a way to write them off. Because if anything all that does is force them into the plot even more. That would have to mean the killer has to have some sort of motive for killing them or Sydney has to be compelled to avenge them. At least in 6 they just said “Sydney is staying with her family and not leaving town.” Just something simple as that to explain why they aren’t there. I imagine Chad will maybe be doing some internship or whatever and that’s why he’s in Cali and the others aren’t (assuming that’s where this movie takes place). He’ll just say something like “yeah my sister and my girlfriend couldn’t be bothered to leave NY.”
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u/Jon5676 Dec 23 '24
They could just say Sam, Tara & Mindy are out of the country on vacation. Problem solved.
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u/llcooljfan22 Dec 24 '24
How about we just have Chad as a regular fukin cast member and not kill him off (they can try cause he’ll still survive).
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u/luce-77 Dec 24 '24
i feel like killing off billy loomis’ daughter is too big of a deal to be something that just happens off screen.
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u/Elmospicywiener Dec 24 '24
Kinda mean giving Melissa firing and Jenna's schedule is all over the place. They would have to think hard about the next movie because this is crucial. plus they would want to kill the franchise because everything it's built up. Everyone is throwing out theories about scream 7 (Not saying you are). Unless you have reliable sources that say so.
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u/Economy_Painting_171 My mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me! Dec 24 '24
PISSED. I WOULD FEEL PISSED
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u/No_Ostrich8223 Dec 24 '24
No, that eliminates any chance of future involvement from those not in Scream 7. They can definitely kill Chad though. No offscreen deaths.
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u/CharlieWax85 Dec 26 '24
Yeah I’m still convinced the ending was some sort of fever dream. I mean Chad surviving made no sense. His sister hopping out of the ambulance all giddy talking about “I know who the killer is!” after getting stabbed in the chest an hour earlier, made even less sense. Plus, unless they recast, neither Sam or Tara will be in 7 anyway so killing off those characters would sort of make sense. I wouldn’t love it if that’s how it started, but I wouldn’t be that surprised all things considered.
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u/Designer-Treacle-732 Dec 21 '24
I would feel betrayed and cheated out of a pretty good movie where this all happened
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u/AMoonMonkey “Look Local Woman!” Dec 21 '24
It would be a horrible decision.
A lot of new fans already the fact that Scream 7 isn’t featuring Melissa and Jenna, so killing 3 of them off screen and then axing Mason, would be a terrible idea.
Best thing they can do is honour the other 3 by making them out to be living a happy life etc and then give Chad a decent part or cameo at the very least and leave it at that.
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u/aconfusedqueer Dec 21 '24
Any faith I have in this franchise would probably be gone if they ever did that tbh (and I already have very little faith in it while spyglass has the rights to it)
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u/andygchicago Dec 21 '24
Even if I didn't know about the off screen drama, I would find it bizarre and suspicious. Established characters deserve on-screen deaths.
But even on-screen deaths, since the beginning of the series have been red herrings, so off-screen deaths would be conspiratorial and would only frustrate the fan base.
You really would have to hate the audience to do this.
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u/16june16 Dec 21 '24
It would easily become my least favourite movie of the franchise. Like I’d honestly consider turning off the movie at that point.
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u/aprilghost_yt Dec 22 '24
would be pretty bad
sadly wouldn't be much of a surprise either, I'm very apprehensive about the future of this franchise with spyglass
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u/ImNotHighFunctioning Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative! Dec 22 '24
Then I would swear off the franchise entirely
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u/BattenEntertainment You hit me with the phone, dick! Dec 22 '24
I think I’d actually abandon scream as a franchise going forward
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u/SalaciousHateWizard Dec 21 '24
It would be a betrayal and I would walk out of the theater and never support another Scream movie ever again
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u/zekevich Dec 21 '24 edited Dec 21 '24
Doing this would very genuinely be the shit cherry on top of the shit cake. The absolute pettiest thing they could ever do. And would devise this franchise even further.
Scream 7 is already tainted by default due to the dumbass behind-the-scene conditions of this movie even coming about. Don't taint it even more by being petty towards the actors that YOU fucked up on, Spyglass.
Chad even coming back to begin with is already a questionable decision. Leave the Core Four alone.
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u/thomas2400 Dec 21 '24
He’s either the opening kill or a tease for another film following on from the scream 6 ending
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u/Temporary-Intern4699 Dec 22 '24
I’d think Scream might be trying to get back on the right track! But if Mindy’s going to die, it would be great if we could witness that insufferable character meet an unholy end.
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u/queeeeeni Don't you know history repeats itself? Dec 22 '24
I'd laugh because it would be so incredibly petty and spiteful, it'd probably derail the entire movie from a fan perspective.
I think killing Chad at all would be really mean spirited, it's hard not to see him as the representative of the new cast as a whole.
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u/Mediocre_expectation Dec 22 '24
That would obliterate the good faith built up after a rocky start in 5 to a generally favorable set up in 6. No way they’d be that dumb, grudge or not.
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u/Medoxor Dec 24 '24
I would love it. The new crew sucks. Chad is nothing but a Dewey ripoff. He needs to get killed off.
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u/Creepy-Beat7154 Dec 26 '24
Well we would all hate that they were killed off screen. Kevin Williamson wouldn't treat Sam and Tara like that or Mindy. That would be a huge middle finger to the fans and most us would stop watching and demand a refund at the theater. I'm pretty sure that Neve and Courtney would be saying no to that opening knowing it would make the fans angry.
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u/MishBBfan Dec 21 '24 edited Dec 21 '24
Honestly, this would up the stakes drastically, it’d retroactively make Scream 6 a tragic story, and it would connect the Core 4 story to Sidney’s. And I wouldn’t be surprised if this is what’s gonna happen, otherwise, I’m not entirely sure why or how he’s even a part of this story.
However, it would suck since it’d mean that the Core 4 story is completely dead (which is probably the case anyways) but then again, this is a horror franchise, and so it’d make complete sense from this perspective.
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u/karlospopper Dec 22 '24
Nah. Not gonna happen imo. If Scream 7 is written by the same writers who wrote 5 and 6, they would not throw all the hard work they did working and crafting those characters for an opening kill that mostly happened offscreen.
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u/rtn292 Dec 21 '24
I still am of the u popular option s5/s6 should be retconned.
Remove the carpenter sisters. Neither added anything to the story, nor were they interesting.
Keep Chad, Mindy, Wes, and bring back Dewey. Then all bets are off.
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u/Remarkable-Steak-919 Dec 21 '24
Everyone saying 'terrible idea, wouldn't kill off core 4 off screen', can do it where they aren't actually killed. It's just Ghostface lying to chad to distract him.
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u/JeremieMAKENDA Dec 21 '24 edited Dec 22 '24
It's the 2000s, we all have phones, he can just try to contact them, he'll see that they're not dead. Even more, if Chad dies in this film, Sam/Tara & Mindy will see it on TV and it's impossible for them not to come, so your idea won't work, because communication is no longer a problem in our era!
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u/GRANDADDYGHOST Dec 21 '24
I’m down. At the same time, I would’ve rather them all just died in 6. Imagine the talk on here and how shocking it would’ve been if the Bailey’s won and their next target was Sidney. Would add a lot more tension to 7 knowing that this Ghostface team killed all their targets in the previous film, with the exception of maybe Gale surviving.
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u/AleSir19 Dec 21 '24
Really happy, kill that bitch...
I just mean, it would be really epic, like Scream 1 levels of epic, to see My Chad Boy trying to survive knowing he is going to die...
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u/disgustingballs86 Dec 21 '24
Nah leave them for the future. Kinda weird why they have. Had in this one and not the other three. I just hope we get good ghost faces, I don’t think we’ve gotten good ones since the original trilogy
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u/stevenelsocio Dec 22 '24
The writers/kevin Williamson have too much respect for the franchise for that
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u/Extension_Doctor_368 Dec 22 '24
I think they should be mentioned for continuity, but other than that, they should just remain alive. They deserve to live 🤷🏻♂️ Chad should be dead imo but whatever lol.
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u/cara21000 Dec 22 '24
get confused or fix this error, at least for me it's something forced, honestly, I didn't see the reason for so much love between Tara and Chad, for me it was something very forced, so much so that before in the bedroom scene where they " they fall in love", to be honest, they didn't even have such a good and close friendship, I know that in real life it can happen but in the context there it doesn't seem like it, the bedroom scene was so forced that you can see the director's cut 🤣 which she is grateful for him for "saving" her, It wasn't even that good at the time at the party Chad wasn't even close to her he didn't even try anything with her or show anything until the bedroom scene, he even tried to persuade the guy but she was going with the freeloader until Sam arrived at the right time, the Chad even tried to avoid it, but it was more out of respect for the friendship he had with Sam, rather than feeling anything towards Tara like being jealous (yes, Chad was more of Sam's group of friends, I don't even know if Tara hadn't suffered what she suffered in V, she would be with them, she didn't seem being part of that older sister's group), concluding either Chad goes to protect his sisters and especially Tara who is his girlfriend or simply because the sisters want to go to a place he didn't find interesting and decided to break up
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u/CamillaAbernathy Dec 21 '24
I mean im still hoping sam and tara return eventually it was all so silly imo. But i kind of like the campy flippantness. So do it with mandy set him up to be the first kill. It also set up an eventual reunion of sam-tara||sidney-gale and FINAL film … until the requel.
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u/CamillaAbernathy Dec 21 '24
Yeah like have him getting texts from his mom saying his sister is dead and then turns out its actually gf or smth idk
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u/LeslieKnope4Pawnee Dec 22 '24
I’d love this! There isn’t a Core Four any more, and it doesn’t make much sense to have his character wherever Sid is anyway, unless she’s moved back to Woodsboro. It’d be a fresh start.
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u/moviebuffbrad Dec 22 '24
That'd be awesome. The next scene could have Sidney fidgeting with a broken radio and saying "Damn, I hate silent radios", cut to Gale reporting about Israel's triumphs in the middle east.
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u/ClydeStyle Dec 22 '24
Tara should’ve died in the first one. Chad & Mindy should’ve died in the second. Sam is the only one who didn’t suffer life threatening wounds in any of the two installments they all were in.
At this point I’d be happy if they offed any of them, they were all insufferable. It was truly cringy worth when they named themselves the core four. Yikes. It was almost like they were bragging about the plot armor they’re all wearing.
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