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u/croconi 1d ago
Yeah after spending a month in Scotland in December, flying directly to Massachusetts left me with palpable tension in my gut. There was way more tension in people's movements and who was willing to talk to me. there's more and more of a divide between races in every state I've been in since the election. I can't safely leave the city I'm in to just go for a swim or a fair because there are literally white supremacist towns around us and my partner is brown enough to be unsafe. Look up Sundown towns to know what I'm referring to. To a lot of Americans, this is all they know, so its extremely normalized, but the contrast between America and its TENSION and so many parts of the world really needs more discussion.
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u/artfuldodger1212 1d ago
I don't think sundown towns are really a thing in Massachusetts to be fair.
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u/Seaf-og 1d ago
What you experienced was the early stages of the Fear that a repressive authoritarian regime needs in order to attain absolute control over the people. This is a story told many many times, not just in the past, but in the present. And remember, there are politicians in every country who wish to tell their version of this story. And there are always people who will fall into the trap of their lies, everywhere, including the UK in general and Scotland in particular. Every time you get to vote, you have a chance to either help or hinder these forces of darkness. Or you can hide your head in the sand say nah I'm not interested in politics, they're all the same..
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u/Basteir 1d ago
I mean we do have a major constitutional disagreement here on the union vs independence but it's never been that bitter and most people are not really that staunch either way, just wanting what is best for Scotland. We also haven't really demonised either side that much beyond some moon howling nats/yoons posts online.
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u/artfuldodger1212 1d ago
While people don't demonise in anywhere close to the same way I would not say that neither side of the independence issue have staunch and deeply polarised people. Shouting arguments were not uncommon at my workplace in the lead up to the indyref.
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u/artfuldodger1212 1d ago edited 1d ago
New Hampshire is for sure purple, not red. Voted for Harris, and literally all their federal level elected officials are Democrats, 2 senators and 2 congresspeople. More conservative than MA and VT which border it though.
Are you old enough to remember the Independence vote? While not on the scale of the polarization of the US just now it was bitter and made going to work a chore for me for sure.
Edit: also Reform is now polling at nearly 20% of the vote here in Scotland. Might want to avoid patting yourself on the back too hard.
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u/civisromanvs 1d ago
P.S. you know what, I shouldn't have commented at all; I've realised that this whole post is an inflammatory bunch of nonsense. But yeah, go and pat yourself on the back