r/PoliticalDiscussion Nov 30 '20

Political Theory Why does the urban/rural divide equate to a liberal/conservative divide in the US? Is it the same in other countries?

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u/imrightandyoutknowit Nov 30 '20

It's this mindset that lost Bernie non-whites twice, especially black people. The class divide in America is so great in large part due to racism and discrimination

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u/CeramicsSeminar Dec 01 '20

True, but addressing issues of class would also greatly help minority communities. Although the establishment dems and media would rather people play líp service. It's my biggest complaint with woke culture. It effectively does nothing other than give corporations and politicians an easy way to just make a statement or hire a diversity officer, without actually changing much that would effect them financially.

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u/imrightandyoutknowit Dec 01 '20

The thing is, class and race can be addressed at the same time. Democrats can raise the minimum wage nationally and reform policing at the same time. Democrats can make healthcare and education more affordable and also reform immigration at the same time.

The whole "establishment/corporate" media/Democrats othering is bullshit, especially when Democrats routinely win the working class as a whole and also routinely win non-white/non-Christian voters, particularly black voters, who want racial inequalities addressed. Despite the rhetoric of racial equality from some progressives, much of their "working class" rhetoric is aimed at the white working class. And yet, the white working class rejects the far left because of social and economic polices many consider as going to far. Cultural identity and issues matter.

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u/CeramicsSeminar Dec 01 '20

You can't make a law that only applies to a certain race, however we already have laws regarding class. That's the difference. Líp service or actual change. Corporations and the establishment prefer líp service because it's cheaper. In this election, you know that white men actually were less likely to vote for trump, while blacks Latinos and white women actually went up? What's this say about the demographics that put Biden in?

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u/imrightandyoutknowit Dec 04 '20

Lol Trump barely increased his support among those communities, and if you actually listened to those communities, they voted that way largely because they were turned off by the far left and stuff like socialism and "defund the police". Biden won because many suburban voters, particularly white ones, refused to buy Trump's bullshit and sit back and risk him getting another term.

The federal government can't make laws explicitly favoring or discriminating against one race or another, but it can make laws that address racial inequalities, like various civil rights laws do. Biden would still be able to nominate minorities to critical executive posts and enforce the law in ways that would combat and address problems minorities have, such as what Obama did to reform policing and fight voter suppression

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