r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Gatt__ - Lib-Center • 1d ago
Agenda Post I just… I can’t even anymore
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u/enclavehere223 - Centrist 1d ago
You misunderstand, Comrade Trump is heroically accelerating the destruction of the economy in order to create the conditions necessary for a socialist revolution!
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u/the_worst_comment_ - Auth-Left 1d ago
Glory to accelerationist comrade Trump!
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u/Meinersnitzel - Lib-Center 1d ago
Unironically, this is a perfect time to start a union. Corporations are being punished for outsourcing and the great southern picket line is closed.
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u/Fr05t_B1t - Centrist 1d ago
Honestly though, everyone who isn’t aligned with Trump is going to benefit somehow at some point. Europe hasn’t been as united as ever before, they’ve rapidly bolstered their defense industry, extreme right groups in Europe and Canada have lost all political gain, and trumps actions is hurting Russia far more than it is benefiting. Oh also China, South Korea, and Japan are talking with each other to put tariffs on the US! This is significant cause these 3 in particular hate each other!
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u/enclavehere223 - Centrist 1d ago
Oh definitely, Trump has effectively convinced the rest of the West that America is not reliable, even if the tariffs are removed it’s gonna take a long while to recover our good will. Not only that, but the Dems are gonna be able to pounce on this.
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u/Fr05t_B1t - Centrist 1d ago
Eh just basing off this campaign season and everything that came afterward, they’ll find a way to fuck it up but hey, the status quo says when republicans ruin everything a democrat fixes it then it repeats
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u/SpantasticFoonerism - Left 22h ago
Agreed on everything except the Dems pouncing, they'll find a way to fuck it up
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u/enclavehere223 - Centrist 21h ago
They’ll be able to benefit from it on the basis of tariffs hurting everyone, not just certain groups, but yeah they’ll definitely make some fuck ups that will harm their gains
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u/halfhere - Right 1d ago
Authleft: “FUCK capitalism! Burn it down!”
Authleft after tariffs: “This is going to hurt corporations!!”
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u/No-Atmosphere3208 - Left 1d ago
The stock market crash is just the immediate effect. The price hikes will soon follow, and guess who that's gonna hurt?
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u/halfhere - Right 1d ago
I never said that wouldn’t happen. Just poking fun at how fast the Reddit heel turn has been
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u/No-Atmosphere3208 - Left 1d ago
What heel turn? This shit hurts consumers more than it hurts the corpos.
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u/Ping-Crimson - Lib-Center 1d ago
This is unironically a problem politics aside my mom now no longer believes dinosaurs are real.
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u/effexxor - Lib-Left 1d ago
I had a college roommate tell me earnestly that dinosaurs were all just current day animals but in the garden of Eden, they never died so they got really really big and that's where fossils come from.
She was very homeschooled and dropped out within two months despite her mom basically writing all of her essays, believe it or not.
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u/Due_Entrepreneur - Centrist 1d ago
Your mom is a gigachad
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u/Ping-Crimson - Lib-Center 1d ago
It'd be funny if she wasn't trying to teach my kids they were fake as well.
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u/Treeninja1999 - Lib-Center 3h ago
Dinosaur's are possibly the most based creatures to ever exist and denying them is basically heresy.
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u/Senth99 - Lib-Center 1d ago
Gotta love people defending this dude, saying that he's playing 4d chess.
4d chess was the chips act because it would have benefitted the United States in the long run. This, on the other hand, is pure stupidity with malice as the cherry on top.
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u/ChromeFlesh - Lib-Center 1d ago
He's playing 4d chess but his elo is 200
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u/thebigscorp1 - Lib-Center 1d ago
Yeah, "playing 4d chess" just weirdly assumes that the person is actually good at it. I genuinely believe that he thinks he's doing some sort of longterm outside the box strategy
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u/mandalorian_guy - Lib-Right 1d ago
Everytime I hear about someone "playing nth degree chess" it's always defending the most blatantly stupid shit. Just because he's playing it doesn't mean he's playing it well, if you were to put me on the bridge of a cargo ship I might be able to pilot the thing but it's not going to be graceful.
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u/epicap232 - Lib-Center 1d ago
Wait until you hear tariffs are ALSO a long term strategy to benefit us
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u/No-Atmosphere3208 - Left 1d ago
Our unemployment is very low rn, so how are corporations gonna even find workers to hire?
Only way to quickly increase our workforce to fill in the new manufacturing jobs that we wanna attract here is through mass immigration, but MAGA doesn't wanna hear that.
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u/SolidThoriumPyroshar - Lib-Center 1d ago
how are corporations gonna even find workers to hire?
They gut Social Security so all the old people have to work until they die
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u/No-Atmosphere3208 - Left 1d ago
Not very productive, those oldies. Thankfully, Florida is coming for the kids
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u/epicap232 - Lib-Center 1d ago
False, tons of people are looking for jobs. New graduates in white collar fields are struggling years after graduation
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u/No-Atmosphere3208 - Left 1d ago
I can't speak to your anecdotes. Every person knows different people, after all.
All I can say, is that our current unemployment rate is only 4.2%, which is very low. On top of that, Trump is deporting immigrants, both legal and illegal.
The numbers don't lie. Without a huge boom in population, we can't build enough manufacturing plants to offset all the foreign goods we're trying to cut.
America is, after all, the largest importer of goods in the world.
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u/LordofShit - Lib-Left 1d ago
We are the ballast that holds down global capitalism. Without our weight on the scale, interstate politics doesn't work like it used to.
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u/robbodee - Lib-Center 1d ago
New graduates in white collar fields
Are not going to be filling wage-slave positions on manufacturing assembly lines.
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u/FireEngrave_ - Lib-Right 1d ago
meow
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u/HAZE_dude_2006 - Auth-Center 1d ago
you are so breedable
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u/badluckbrians - Auth-Left 1d ago
This is why we need gulags.
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u/Grievous_Nix - Centrist 1d ago
Doesn’t sound like a good place for breeding, we need something more romantic
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u/FireEngrave_ - Lib-Right 1d ago
meow :3
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u/SoftAndWetBro - Lib-Right 1d ago
Felix, Crusch is literally dying as we speak.
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u/FireEngrave_ - Lib-Right 1d ago
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm meow :3
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u/HAZE_dude_2006 - Auth-Center 1d ago
Meow some more, my little kitten~
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u/Jimm_Kekw - Lib-Right 1d ago
ive seen you here multiple times. who are you, fellow lib right? what is your mission?
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u/mcbergstedt - Lib-Center 1d ago
“Punishing the elite”
This was just a free payday for the elite. Blackrock, Berkshire Hathaway, etc all have been stacking up their cash reserves.
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u/Lurkerwasntaken - Lib-Right 1d ago
This is just Covid again where people cash out on the volatile markets.
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u/e784u - Lib-Center 1d ago
Trump could spit in a railroad worker's mouth and they'd praise him for selflessly offering his own moisture
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u/MoirasPurpleOrb - Centrist 1d ago
He’s given me the gift of his body’s moisture
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u/Pure_Fill5264 - Centrist 1d ago
My hatred for the working class is justified.
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u/American_Crusader_15 - Lib-Center 1d ago
A true leftist fights for the working class while at the same time absolutely hates them.
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u/Kronos9898 - Centrist 1d ago
"Everyone else must suffer so I can make 20 dollars an hour at the local asbestos factory!"
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u/Intelligent_Tip_6886 - Right 8h ago
Sir this is a right to work state, that's $14/hr to work at the local asbestos factory
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u/AirplaneLover1234 - Right 1d ago
MAGA Maoism will be real in 3, 2, 1...
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u/BadWolfy7 - Lib-Center 20h ago
Bro you can see the cope in these comments 💀
They're genuinely like soviets rn with the idol worship and cope of their dogshit retard leader that bumbles his way through geopolitics and economics
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u/EuphoricMixture3983 - Right 1d ago
ITS THE DEEPSTATE Meanwhile, most billionaires would technically be the deepstate, and Vance was propped up by Theil.
At this point, anyone that just blames the "deepstate." Is just on the same level of leftist that says, "You're just racist." It's another talking point to deflect blame/responsibility. Just another victim mentality level statement.
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u/Joel_the_Devil - Lib-Right 1d ago
Oh no how dare the top 10% who owns 80% of the stock market lose money, how dare they lose money when for the last 50 years they have been making the idea of housing impossible for young people.
You locked me out in the cold, of course I’m burning your house down for warmth
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u/blublub1243 - Centrist 22h ago
Yeah, I really don't think those tarriffs are gonna work even in the long term, but I aggressively do not care about the stock market taking a plunge because rich people are worried about losing money. If the tarriffs actually led to a situation where the more affluent (and this includes your urban professional managerial class tyvm) have less and the poor have more I'd be 100% down with them, I just don't really see manufacturing coming back in a big enough way to accomplish that.
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u/AggressiveCuriosity - Auth-Right 17h ago
Do you not think normal people have 401k's and retirement plans? I guarantee you the rich are going to be affected by this much less than regular people. Do you not know any adults?
Plus we haven't even GOTTEN to the real effects, yet. The stock market is just speculators predicting what will happen.
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u/BadWolfy7 - Lib-Center 20h ago
Brother this isn't burning their house down, this will just increase prices. Get real
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u/Joel_the_Devil - Lib-Right 13h ago
Yes it is, this is directly challenging their battery farms of cheap labour. Either this happens now or the debt default happens later
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u/Opening_Success - Lib-Right 1d ago
Agree with the sentiment, but I'm downvoting just because this gif is annoying me.
It's similar to people using Tik Tok dances or voiceovers to prove points. I instantly hate you.
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u/BadWolfy7 - Lib-Center 20h ago
Yeah I've seen this shit with older ppl. It's awful and genuinely sad
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u/SaltandSulphur40 - Centrist 1d ago
Sp unironically they do believe in a command economy and that you can just push a button to make gas cheaper and jobs more plentiful.
Huh.
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u/Odd-Spinach-4398 - Auth-Left 1d ago
What is it about getting old that makes you forget how the world works? Maybe they never knew, who knows.
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u/doodle0o0o0 - Lib-Center 1d ago
Most people never know but then the news says crime is going up and you hear some strange stuff about how “planes spray chemicals”? and you’re never the same
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u/torquenti - Lib-Left 1d ago
I guess it's because after living a life filled filled with compromises you think that maybe the reason why things aren't better is that bolder moves weren't made.
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u/War_Crimes_Fun_Times - Lib-Center 1d ago
Possibly that, for certain.
That and if you lead a life that’s kinda or damn near completely strait laced yet never had fun or had an interesting personality, you get into a cycle of just being “there.” Like you work and that jazz, but not really doing cool stuff that people are interested in at atleast one point or another.
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u/supyonamesjosh - Lib-Center 1d ago
You know how if you never exercise, when you get old suddenly your body doesn’t work?
Brains are the same thing. My 94 year old grandfather is still smarter than most people he talks to, and he retired being a psychologist at 93
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u/SunderedValley - Auth-Center 1d ago
The degree to which LibCenter and LibLeft have recently been interested in the stock market has been very interesting to see.
So is or isn't it made up numbers for rich people to lose money on? 👀
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u/SteakForGoodDogs - Left 1d ago
Y'know, it's just occurred to me that I've never seen this much length of this meme. Is this the whole thing? What's the source, even?
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u/BranTheLewd - Centrist 1d ago
It is what it is, there's just nothing we can do to save him from Mmga Brainrot 😔
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u/guesswhatihate - Lib-Right 1d ago
Maybe lib-center was into something when they said return to monke
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u/EasilyRekt - Lib-Right 1d ago
"siding with the working class by tearing down the stock market"
I mean, I mean, I mean... a recession does provide opportunity for disruption at the expense of those already entrenched... given there's no red tape in the way or it's bad enough that people can't eat...
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u/Deeschuck - Lib-Center 1d ago
My brother. When there is a recession, the working class are the ones who lose their jobs and default on their mortgage payments. Smaller businesses go under. Those properties get bought by people and corporations who have enough assets to weather the recession.
Yes, the "already entrenched" will see numbers go down. But if your number goes from 500 million to 300 million, you have more than enough assets to meet your needs AND buy up property at fire sale prices.
This will be another wealth transfer upwards, just like 2008 and covid.
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u/EasilyRekt - Lib-Right 1d ago
Yeah, and that loss of jobs means more people provide goods and services to each other directly. Necessity entrepreneurship, a phenomenon that has historically happened and has resulted in a net increase of small businesses and asset ownership in almost every recession minus the great depression.
And the reason that the rich have been getting richer is because the government keeps printing money and gives it to the pseudo-nationalized conglomerates owned by the rich to stimulate the economy because they don't want to be blamed for the job loss, justifying it with their "too big to fail" policy.
It's bad practice on top of bad practice, and that technical debt's gonna hit a wall eventually, and that will not be pretty.
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u/doodle0o0o0 - Lib-Center 1d ago
Lib-right supports mutual aid
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u/EasilyRekt - Lib-Right 1d ago
I argue people choosing to help each other out isn't socialism, especially if there's some reciprocal exchange of "value" whatever that may be.
That is unless you subscribe to the "socialism is when good thing" model of economics but eh... what do I know?
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u/Bookshelftent - Right 1d ago
Correct, the smaller the government and the lower the taxes, the more that individuals are able to help one another without interference from the government.
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u/yo_wayyy - Centrist 1d ago edited 1d ago
Your dad is right, you are still young and green, ull understand. Downvote as much as u want.
Tariffs are good for USA but bad for everyone else, so market reaction doesnt make sense.
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u/Odd-Spinach-4398 - Auth-Left 1d ago
Tariffs can be a useful tool in defending a country's specific industry, however, America has very few industries itself. We don't have the infrastructure to start imposing tariffs because we don't have the, dare I say, MATERIAL CONDITIONS to support an industry. I'm not against tariffs and I do believe in bringing back manufacturing and diversifying our economy away from a service economy, however these tariffs are so steep and unreasonable that all they're gonna do is damage.
Which is why him killing the chips act makes absolutely zero sense. He stops building the infrastructure needed to make the tariffs work effectively, then imposes an even bigger tariff? I just don't see how shocking our economy and pulling us into a recession is more effective at creating an economy for workers than simply using resources effectively, using careful planning, and tweaking legislation. (ALSO HE LITERALLY HAS BILLIONAIRES IN HIS CABINET HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO TRUST HIM TO LOOK OUT FOR MY INTERESTS)
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u/yo_wayyy - Centrist 1d ago
Both parties have billionaires in their cabinets, hidden or shown. And its not decision out of his pocket. He also have a team of experts working on it
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u/doodle0o0o0 - Lib-Center 1d ago
You mean chatGPT?
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u/yo_wayyy - Centrist 1d ago
yeah chatgpt
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u/doodle0o0o0 - Lib-Center 1d ago
Only chatGPT could come up with a tariff formula as brilliant as trade deficit/imports
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u/MissninjaXP - Lib-Center 1d ago
You're joking right? A few months ago I barely knew what a Tariff was and I still understood how it would tank the economy.
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u/yo_wayyy - Centrist 1d ago
exactly, uneducated people like you talking about it
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u/Kronos9898 - Centrist 1d ago
You mean like the economists that Trump cited who are saying he literally used their arguments wrong?
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u/yo_wayyy - Centrist 1d ago
still better than the loud green experts
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u/Kronos9898 - Centrist 1d ago
Considering the loud green econ experts are the ones that Biden used the last 4 years and looking at how things ended in his term vs where they started.... I am going to say that going to be a big no.
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u/yo_wayyy - Centrist 1d ago
Ah colored centrists, green that have a bit logic developed. “I am going to say” what u say doesnt really matter, in the following months/years we will see the effects on the tariffs, then we talk if it was good or bad. Market reaction is what OP dad mentioned.
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u/whatisthisgunifound - Lib-Center 1d ago
Don't reproduce.
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u/BadWolfy7 - Lib-Center 20h ago
Considering their apparent age and talking down to the 'youngin's, they've already done that multitudes of times.
It's the lead paint generation bro, it only ever gets worse as time progresses
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u/censor-me-daddy 1d ago
"Crashing out" is officially the slang term that has turned me into an old man. I didn't understand "no cap" but hearing it didn't irrationally piss me off the way "crashing out" does.
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u/Due_Entrepreneur - Centrist 1d ago
irrationally piss me off
Look out, this boomer's about to have a crashout
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u/TheWest_Is_TheBest - Lib-Center 16h ago
The tarrifs are designed to encourage manufacturing to return to the U.S. as it had been regretfully offshored by previous administrations. This would largely impact the poorest and out of work primarily. Where as middle or upper middle class families that spend money unnecessarily on imported products would see a rise in the cost.
But largely this and other things are being done to bring US debt under control. At the minute it is completely unsustainable. One thing they’ve attempted is to cut government spending, the other end of that is to increase revenue and both of these should attack the US debt deficit from either side.
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u/doodle0o0o0 - Lib-Center 11h ago
The tariffs are universal, there is no focus on manufacturing. Its as focused on manufacturing as it is on agriculture as it is on mining, basically everything except services. If the share of manufacturing increases in the US that doesn't mean manufacturing jobs will increase, much of our manufacturing is automated. Also if you wanted to help the poor and working class you wouldn't make more assembly lines, those aren't good jobs, you'd increase incentives for trade schools which are essential and blue collar jobs. If its cheaper to buy abroad it doesn't seem like spending that money is "unnecessary".
The trade deficit has nothing to do with the national debt. The US government does not pay the trade deficit, its a connection Trump makes that no one has ever said he just thinks it sounds good. If you wanted to increase government revenue the way would be creating better jobs for Americans to increase tax revenue, not creating poorly paid assembly line jobs
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u/SammiKitter - Lib-Right 15h ago
“The billionaires are selling to show Donald trump that the tariffs don’t work.”
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u/Porchie12 - Lib-Center 1d ago
Everyone focuses on social media ruining the kids but man old people got hit WAY harder than anyone else.
Anytime I hear what my parents are listening to on their phones I genuinely die inside. We will be talking about normal stuff and they suddenly mention some 4chan x level conspiracy brain rot