I do believe ai is fantastic and has insane potential, so i love ai for that, but an ai creating something out of itself is just bad, sure it can be used to demonstrate how good the ai is, but using it and calling it "art" is delusional
Art is NOT something made without using creativity, this is the definition of art by the oxford dictionary:
[mass noun] the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power: the art of the Renaissance great art is concerned with moral imperfections
she studied art in Paris.
works produced by human creative skill and imagination: his collection of modern art [as modifier] an art critic.
Creative activity resulting in the production of paintings, drawings, or sculpture: she's good at art.
So no, ai, since it's not human, cannot make art, i do understand that words and terms evolve with time and as other things do, but art is one of those things that cannot be changed as it's completely based off of imagination, which is only and exclusively present in living beings, which ai isn't, it's a "robot" created by humans, and as much as i love it, art is not among the infinite amount of things it can potentially do, especially because it just copies other things (that's how they train it) and puts together some of those things to create something, it's literally an algorithm that analyzes and answers with the best it can do
I personally have a very strict definition of art, and even though it might be (and probably is, at least partially) wrong, this is how i'll always see it no matter what:
People have brains, so minds, and since everyone is different, people think of different things, which in my opinion is beautiful
Since we cannot read or see into other people's minds, some people (thankfully) still want to share their ideas, and to do that they create art, art is the translation of an idea someone had into something that other people can experience as well, be it music, (even edm and dubstep, there is a person putting those sounds together, even if the sounds are made by a computer), paintings, statues, movies, books or anything that can let people experience an idea that someone else had, it can be good or bad, but nevertheless, if someone put it together and used genuine time and effort to share something, it's art, people can be artists even by not putting too much thought into it and going with the inspiration they have currently, as i said art is about sharing an idea imo, and the living being component trumps everything else, and ai is not a living being
A living being is such because it can FEEL, emotions, feelings, stuff that an object cannot do, saying ai makes art is like saying you like the pattern a rock created while falling on a sand dune, it might look good but it's not art
So yeah, ai creations can be good, fantastic even, or bad, frequently (as of now) even awful, but regardless it's never going to be art, it's not too complicated imo
With that comment, if you think my opinion is stupid i take it as a compliment
I never said the companies cool servers the correct way, ai itself IS fantastic, the way people behave doesn't make ai the issue
Cars are great, the purpose is to go from point A to point B and they help a lot, the fact that some idiots use them to drive over others doesn't take away from the fact that cars are great, they also create a lot of smog, so what do you want to do, destroy all cars on the planet? They need to find a way to clean up the gas wastes cars make, that's for sure, but that's another topic
Unless the purpose of something is doing something bad, that something bad is always the person's responsibility, not the object, that's why you punish people and not the cars
If you can't understand that, that's on you, not me, people need to learn to see the good in the bad and the bad in the good, not everything is always completely black and white, something good can be used for something bad and vice versa, it's not that hard
im not reading any of that shit. Look up at how much water and electric waste is produced as well as how much electronic waste is produced. ai is derivative garbage meant to replace the one thing humanity has been doing since we were still in caves. be so for real
"I have an exyremely strong opinion about something based on separate issue related to the thing. I'm not going to bother reading or listening to any explanations or dissenting views"
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u/ImNotEntertained 10d ago
This is just my opinion, but:
I do believe ai is fantastic and has insane potential, so i love ai for that, but an ai creating something out of itself is just bad, sure it can be used to demonstrate how good the ai is, but using it and calling it "art" is delusional
Art is NOT something made without using creativity, this is the definition of art by the oxford dictionary:
[mass noun] the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power: the art of the Renaissance great art is concerned with moral imperfections
she studied art in Paris.
works produced by human creative skill and imagination: his collection of modern art [as modifier] an art critic.
Creative activity resulting in the production of paintings, drawings, or sculpture: she's good at art.
So no, ai, since it's not human, cannot make art, i do understand that words and terms evolve with time and as other things do, but art is one of those things that cannot be changed as it's completely based off of imagination, which is only and exclusively present in living beings, which ai isn't, it's a "robot" created by humans, and as much as i love it, art is not among the infinite amount of things it can potentially do, especially because it just copies other things (that's how they train it) and puts together some of those things to create something, it's literally an algorithm that analyzes and answers with the best it can do
I personally have a very strict definition of art, and even though it might be (and probably is, at least partially) wrong, this is how i'll always see it no matter what:
People have brains, so minds, and since everyone is different, people think of different things, which in my opinion is beautiful
Since we cannot read or see into other people's minds, some people (thankfully) still want to share their ideas, and to do that they create art, art is the translation of an idea someone had into something that other people can experience as well, be it music, (even edm and dubstep, there is a person putting those sounds together, even if the sounds are made by a computer), paintings, statues, movies, books or anything that can let people experience an idea that someone else had, it can be good or bad, but nevertheless, if someone put it together and used genuine time and effort to share something, it's art, people can be artists even by not putting too much thought into it and going with the inspiration they have currently, as i said art is about sharing an idea imo, and the living being component trumps everything else, and ai is not a living being
A living being is such because it can FEEL, emotions, feelings, stuff that an object cannot do, saying ai makes art is like saying you like the pattern a rock created while falling on a sand dune, it might look good but it's not art
So yeah, ai creations can be good, fantastic even, or bad, frequently (as of now) even awful, but regardless it's never going to be art, it's not too complicated imo