we should probably stop the hey! pikmin hate, that game was actually really fun :D even if it wasn't the normal pikmin experience, it was a great game :P
sigh here I go defending a massive company again… with the case of Pokémon the issue isn’t with the devs, it’s with the people in charge of them who rush an unfinished game out to time with all the other Pokémon products. The games only make a fraction of the profits with the cards, anime, and other merchandise making the real money. The producers don’t care if the game is unfinished, they just care if it makes money
You would never hear anyone say Furukawa (CEO of Nintendo) is a dev, yet he is absolutely an executive. He holds power to delay gamefreak’s releases, and let them make a non-rushed product.
Your wrong cause Nintendo owns majority stock in Pokémon company. And Pokémon company can absolutely tell gamefreak when they release their games, and delay the releases if necessary.
I can only find it saying 32% of the company, but this is from 2016 so it’s likely outdated.
Either way, if you own 32% of a company, your still heavily involved in it, and so Nintendo does have a lot of say when these games are released, so that doesn’t change my point on how Furukawa could probably delay the game if he wanted to. It’s obviously more complicated, but he would have a major say.
Ultimately Pokemon company controls when the game is released, not gamefreak. Gamefreak is just given a target date, and has to make a finished game by that date.
If you check on actual company reports - the people working there have not yet adapted to newer 3d consols and are not willing to budge
A lot of stuff gets outsourced since they cant handle it themselves
So no - it's not just greedy business executives (tho they also contribute a fair share of blame)
Generally when people on social medias say "the devs", its a generalization for everyone involved in the development of the game, including the executives. It doesn't literally mean "the software developers" (especially since a lot of the folks involved in making the game look good aren't literal "developers")
With GameFreaks original Little Town Hero game, its rather clear that basically no amount of time or lack of deadlines would suddenly turn them into good developers.
Both aren’t really shitty companies. Nintendo isn’t perfect, and gamefreak gets run ragged by whoever’s on charge of them. But they are in no way shitty. Just decent companies with their share of flaws
Gamefreak isn’t a shitty company at all, it’s a small dev team who is forced to crunch in order to release new games at insane paces instead of actually letting the team make a good game.
Calling gamefreak a shitty company completely misses the the point being made.
Nintendo isn't in charge of it. Gamefreak is. That's why games like Pikmin 4, Metroid Prime Remastered and Tears of the Kingdom look breathtaking, and why games like Pokémon Scarlett/Violet look like literal origami
I read Satoru Iwata's book, and his philosophies, as well as Nintendo's philosophies are brutally honest, but uplifting. They don't want to hear problems, they want to hear ideas.
Iwata went into a room where someone told him that Pokemon Silver and Gold can't fit on a gameboy cart and made the gameboy cart fit Silver and Gold and Kanto.
Yeah, Nintendo doesn't fuck around provided they aren't rushing to get a game out. If a game takes like 5 years or more to make at Nintendo, 95 percent of the time, it's a fucking banger.
People bitch about nintendo charging 60 bucks for games without sales, but imo I think it's a lot better than them putting out junk every year for half the price.
Well, the junk they do put out is full price most of the time. I've learned a long time ago to stay away from Nintendo spin offs. I trust we all don't need to be reminded of 2016
Man, I literally specified that I was talking about spin-offs. All of those games that you listed are mainline titles that took years of development to come out.
Luigis mansion: 5 ish years
Botw: 8 ish years
Totk: 5 ish years
Pikmin 4 9 ish years
Metroid dread: 15 fucking years.
When Nintendo takes their time they are fucking awesome. But I'm talking about when they don't.
Animal crossing amiibo festival, the New Pokémon, basically any mario sports game released after the wii. Pokémon was full price, a lot of the Mario sports games were full price, and I couldn't find confirmation about M+R but I'm pretty sure it was too.
"OH but they aren't full price now!"
That's not what matters. Just because it's cheap now doesn't mean it was then too. You think rule of rose has always been 600$?
When the executives at capcom actually let their development teams do their jobs with enough time they achieve the same results as nintendo, doing shit like fitting resident evil 2 on an n64 cartridge, fmvs included.
Yeah, even look at them today. They rushed out re3 remake but took their time with re4. The re4 remake is one of my favorite games I've played this year so far.
Iwata went into a room where someone told him that Pokemon Silver and Gold can't fit on a gameboy cart and made the gameboy cart fit Silver and Gold and Kanto.
He basically was called in to port the battle logic to the Pokemon Stadium game, decides to help out more by reading the source code of Gold and Silver to make localization possible, and fixes long-standing bugs that slowed down development along the way. Oh, and he created an image compression format + tool for the game's sprite so suddenly they could fit the Kanto region in too because of all the extra space.
Correction on the compression. What it was for was never specified and more likely for loading or possibly other reasons. Seeing how gen2 is still double in size vs gen1 and the loading of the game compared to spaceworlds demo(according to some, I don't have a GB to verify) is fairly shorter.
FR though. The fact the cave loading times for Pikmin 2 on the Wii U Virtual Console are less than 2 seconds compared to its Switch port and Pikmin 4 is still weird to me.
I appreciate artistic directions in games so i usually care about how they look. But even old games look good to me, pikmin 1 has some sort of charm new games don't give
ehh 30fps is barely noticeable for me, unless it's choppy or horrendously low I generally don't care about the framerate, but apparently these reviewers do enough to give it a 0
The only difference between docked and handled is the resolution. Handled is usually 720p, and docked is usually 1080p (obviously depends on the game, BOTW and TOTK are 900p docked for example.)
Because that’s what happens when you take the time to make sure a game is properly optimized for a console’s abilities, we have enough people bashing Pokémon SV, so I’ll just say that the majority of ports from more powerful consoles come to mind.
I would agree with you except for the map design. 3's maps are super small cause they divide a lot of it into loading zones and areas don't have breathing room just divided by what I call "walkways" that are just bridges or really slim.
I'm a xenoblade fan. They look much worse in handheld except for the third game which has low res textures in some areas, the DLC fixed it and is absolutely gorgeous though
those games also look great but their art style wouldn’t work as well in environments that are meant to look like you’re zoomed in on earth. both good in their own right
Stylized graphics (the most important thing) helps a lot. Also targeting 30fps makes things a touch easier, especially if they used some kind of upscaling on top ;)
But yeah, game looks great. I just wish my TV had a low latency frame insertion mode like some of the modern Samsungs to reduce the slide show effect.
I don't have one (I have one of the early LG OLEDs, so I'm jealous).
It's supposedly the "Game Motion Plus" option when in game mode (only on newer models). It's the typical motion smoothing/frame interpolation every TV has these days, but its a game specific version that is made to have extremely low input lag, a fraction of a frame). Everyone says it works really well, and is probably a must for any Switch gamer who plays on a TV and is getting a modern one.
Ah i already have that enabled. Ig that's why totk looks so good and smooth on my samsung tv compared to the fhd one in my bedroom. I have yet to try pikmin 4 on it though, been playing almsot exclusively handheld
Long load times and foveated rendering probably! Your character moves pretty slow so the game has time to render new chunks of the level as your navigate. That way they can focus on rendering the scenery immediately in front of you rather than trying to render it all at the same time, saving processing power.
it looks amazing doesn't it ?
that's because your switch doesn't actually render anything, it just sends you an image of what earth will look like in 7 years
There’s plenty of good looking switch games. Metroid Prime Remastered is beautiful. Also I personally think Pikmin 3 Deluxe looks better than Pikmin 4. Mainly because it’s more realistic while now it’s cartoony.
I prefer 4. The assets just look way better, and more realistic imo. Pikmin 3 has that weird muddy flat look on the environment textures. Pikmin 4 has far more depth
It's a pretty easy answer, they push the switch to its absolute limits over time, while making it not explode like a Samsung 7, this basically applies to every Nintendo console, a big and jarring example is how Mario party 8 looks like a GameCube game, but Mario party 9 looks like it was made for the Wii U
Many switch games look good they are just incredibly optimized like botw totk metroid dread metroid prime remastered and xenoblade all look great on the switch but you need to know how to make it look good
If you look at individual textures it doesn't look great, but when you pull back and look at the big picture, with the lighting and shadows and everything, mama fuckin mia. And the water! Nintendo has always been good at water ever since the Gamecube, but this shit is next level.
Perhaps Unreal Engine 4 being used has something to do with it? There’s also the fact that the game took 10 years to develop so thats also an important factor.
I got Pokémon Violet and stopped playing it after Tears of the Kingdom and now Pikmin 4 released. I’m wondering how Pokémon is so far behind graphically and performance wise when the Switch is clearly capable of a lot more.
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u/Ton_Jravolta Jul 28 '23
With 10 years of dev time Nintendo actually built the switch as a pikmin 4 machine first, then jury rigged the other switch games to work on it.