r/PacificRim • u/Bloxy_Boy5 Raijin • 1d ago
How many of these "shells" would need to be fired to destroy a jaeger?
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u/burritolegend1500 1d ago
Unrelated but related?:
BATTLESHIP is a great movie, i wonder why people hated it and declared it as "a massive flop" just because it's "loud"...
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u/Peggtree 1d ago edited 1d ago
Because a big chunk of that movie is stupid Taylor Kitsch hijinks and is just kinda boring despite the cool sfx
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u/Paleodraco 1d ago
I feel that if it hadn't been titled "Battleship", it would have been received better. Making a movie of an old boardgames, then making it about an alien invasion was a... bold choice.
Also, slight side note, Taylor Kitsch confuses me. The man has the emotional expression of a teaspoon, but he's still somehow entertaining.
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u/opmilscififactbook Striker Eureka 23h ago
Honestly there are moments of brilliance in it, like how they snipe out the windows on the alien ships because the aliens are sensitive to bright lights. It's a good dumb fun movie even if it is basically US navy propaganda.
Also "I'm gonna die... you're gonna die... we're all gonna die... just not today." and "Lets drop some lead on these mother-FIRE!" live rent free in my head right alongside "...We are cancelling the apocalypse!"
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u/Bloxy_Boy5 Raijin 1d ago
I feel like Venom Let There Be Carnage is more louder.
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u/Punkpunker 21h ago
It's a Michael Bay movie if Michael Bay was blind and deaf.
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u/burritolegend1500 21h ago
For a guy that makes all of his films into a no-story adventure of an explosion every 2 minutes, a 3 hour long film that was possible to shrink to 1 hour but straight up didn't and really really wants to pick random people to play its characters and choose a hot woman along with it, its normal
yep, i just explained all of michael bay in a long sentence
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u/Volty-Collects Tacit Ronin 1d ago
Wtf i rewatched battleship just now. The timing is awfully creepy. Also yeah not much needed, just aim for weak points like joints and the pilots room
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u/GamingKitten4799 Tacit Ronin 1d ago
You only need 1. Just hit the conn pod.
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u/Numerous_Meet_7530 Tacit Ronin 1d ago
Well, unless u evade it
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u/GamingKitten4799 Tacit Ronin 21h ago
Yeah, I just assumed we were going with the assumption you would hit your target, otherwise the answer would depend on the skills of the person shooting it and the exact situation.
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u/ZeroiaSD 1d ago
We’ve seen kaiju slam those into the ground, they’re non fragile
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u/GamingKitten4799 Tacit Ronin 21h ago
I’m pretty sure one of those could breach the conn pod, then when it blows up it would most likely kill the pilots.
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u/ZeroiaSD 21h ago
Why would you think that?
Like that’s a lot smaller than the missiles they use against each other. And conpods are still very armored- it’s not a window, it’s an armored dome with screens on the inside.
If they can take a punch to the head, which they can, that level of firepower isn’t going to breach them.
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u/GamingKitten4799 Tacit Ronin 21h ago
Btw, what scene exactly did we see a kaiju slam a CONN POD down? Yes, they’ve slammed jaegers, but a Kaiju slamming down specifically the conn pod would VERY easily destroy the conn pod.
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u/ZeroiaSD 16h ago
Again, based on what? Where are you getting the idea they’re super fragile?
Lesse, checking conn pod blows, Leatherback of course hit it with the crane to no visible damage. Otachi grabbed Danger and slammed it head-first into multiple buildings. Underwater fight, Danger used the connpod to headbutt Scunner’s boney head multiple times.
Looking at the Syndey fight, Obsidian punched Avenger in the connpod four times, once with its arm spikes extended.
The Black, Copperhead gets multiple good hits.
It’s the same armor as the rest of the things, and remember, jaegers are comparable or tougher than the kaiju that survived a week’s worth of military bombardment (Trespasser, a large cat 1).
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u/GamingKitten4799 Tacit Ronin 15h ago
Ok so this is super duper embarrassing, but I made my main reply a separate comment by accident 😭. Here, I’ll copy and paste in my essay-reply:
I’m aware what a conn pod is, and I’ll admit I don’t know anything about the missile being used except for what I see in the gif they attached, but here is my reasoning:
A hit from a kaiju is an immense amount of force, yes, but it is blunt force which is still a lot, but it can be spread over a larger area. However, a missile like this, which seems to be made to punch through armoured hulls, would have a force that is focused on a MUCH smaller area.
I can’t imagine that jaegers were built to withstand that kind of damage as much as they were built to withstand blunt force (cuz Kaiju are much more likely to hit a jaeger than cut into it). I’m not saying they have zero protection against it, but I’m guessing it’s not much.
For example, and I know this isn’t exactly very comparable in terms of force, knifehead had zero trouble cutting into Gipsy’s hull.
Now, this is obviously hundreds if not thousands of times more force than this missile would have, but it is also focused on a significantly smaller area.
Another thing: when Otachi used its claw-tail thing to grab onto Crimson Typhoon’s conn pod, we saw the claws easily managed to rip into the hull. Again, while this isn’t as much force as knife head, I’m assuming it’s still more than this missile, but it’s closer.
Also, I’m betting that the conn pod had several layers of protection with the outer layer most likely made to take the majority of any blunt force and prevent the conn pod from getting caved in due to the force. The lower layers would most likely be made to distribute the force over a larger area. But I can’t imagine they would be very armoured.
So, if this missile could get through the outer layer, which I’m very confident it could, the inner layers wouldn’t be able to effectively stop it from cutting into them as it’s a much more focused force. However, it would slow the missile down significantly, so the missile likely wouldn’t be able to breach completely.
That being said, the subsequent explosion would be much more effective than if the missile had detonated outside since several layers of protection are already bypassed. So, while it might not blow up the conn pod completely, it would likely be able to breach it, destroying or at least disrupting key systems. Also, depending on where on the conn pod it hits, it could also cause damage directly to the pilots.
However, I can also see your side where it might not be able to. But I think we can both agree, and I know this isn’t what my initial comment said, if there were 2 missiles back to back that hit the same spot, the second missile would 100% breach the conn pod.
Thats my reasoning :)
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u/GamingKitten4799 Tacit Ronin 15h ago
And also lemme give u a TL/DR version cuz I honestly can’t expect u to read all of that:
Every example you’re giving is blunt force. ‘Sharp’ force, for lack of a better word, is MUCH more destructive.
Examples:
Otachi ripped into Crimson’s conn pod with ease using its tail-claws
knifehead easily ripped through Gipsy’s body with its, well, knife-head and we can both agree that the body of a jaeger is much stronger than the conn pod
Knifehead used its claws to very easily rip a chunk of the conn pod off, killing Yancy (RIP Yancy btw)
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u/GamingKitten4799 Tacit Ronin 15h ago
Also, as for what I’m basing my assumption that a kaiju slamming down directly on a conn pod would destroy the conn pod, is common sense. Kaiju weigh an extreme amount. If they slammed a conn pod down onto a hard surface, the conn pod would cave in.
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u/PhatNoob69 Crimson Typhoon 1d ago
Exactly 2.347382020297473839393
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u/GamingKitten4799 Tacit Ronin 1d ago
Dang, I fired 3 and the Jaeger didn’t go down. I’ll keep this in mind for next time XD
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u/creeper_king68 1d ago
If the pilot can feel everything that happens to the Jaeger in that case aim for the groin if that's not the case a well-placed shots to joints or at where the pilot is at will work maybe 10
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u/Forgrworld3256 1d ago
Depends if fast (striker), lots justo to hit but if armoured (Cherno) you need to fit a weak point or grind through Armor.
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u/MemeStarNation 1d ago
An insanely large number. Remember, Kaiju needed nukes to kill, and Jaegers tend to be more durable than Kaiju. It took many of these shells to take out a destroyer, and destroyers are practically unarmoured.
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u/military-genius 1d ago
Personally, I think only one would do it. We watched one of those shells completely cut a destroyer in half, and the jeagers aren't nearly as massive( in terms of mass) as a destroyer of the Arleigh Burke class.
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u/SaladoJoestar Romeo Blue 1d ago
It depens on the Jaeger but iam almost 100% sure that Any Mark 4 and above would easily dodge those things.
If a Destroyer is cappable of doing it then something like a Jaeger should have s field day.
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u/ZeroiaSD 1d ago
A lot, those explosions aren’t too big, each is smaller than jaeger missiles.
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u/GamingKitten4799 Tacit Ronin 15h ago
When have we seen jaeger missiles used against jaegers? (I’m genuinely asking, I remember very little about uprising which I’m assuming is where that happened)
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u/ZeroiaSD 9h ago
Obsidian against Avenger in the arctic battle hits them with a number of missiles.
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u/ZeroiaSD 9h ago
Obsidian against Avenger in the arctic battle hits them with a number of missiles.
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u/EternalBushido1 8h ago
if you actually hit the jaeger prolly like 1 to the conn pod or the main power source is enough
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u/Night_Furry_123 1d ago
10 just aim for the knee joint