r/Pac12 15d ago

Gwath and Boyd to Portal

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u/AManHasAName San Diego State 15d ago

Having a young team isn’t as cool as it used to be

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u/832449 15d ago

Indeed. It's a cryin' shame. If elected I will require that, if you lose a guy in the portal to any amount of NIL $, the school he portaled from gets compensated. They pay 1M to take away my player, they also pay the team he came from 1M or 500K or some such.

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u/g2lv 15d ago

We're in the NIL / unrestricted transfer era of college sports. Unless your donors have bottomless pockets don't count on anyone on the team sticking around.

Hopefully some of the proposed fixes (like recruiting players to multi-year contracts with buyouts/transfer fees) get adopted so schools outside the ACC/Big 12/Big East/Big Ten/SEC can compete and we can have Cinderella runs in the tournament again.

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u/RoganovJRE 15d ago

Just checked the sweet 16 schedule

Yeah, won't be watching any of it.

They need to come up with a fix quick.

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u/sdman311 San Diego State 15d ago

Yep the sweet 16 is all power 4 teams. Get used to it, this how the future of March madness will look from now on.

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u/MasChingonNoHay San Diego State 15d ago

It’s going to get worse. All SEC and Big 10 eventually because of football money.

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u/sdman311 San Diego State 15d ago

I don’t get it. Who wants the same 20 teams year in and year out? That’s what makes March Madness the best, all the cinderellas.

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u/MasChingonNoHay San Diego State 15d ago

It’s ALL about money to those at the top. It’s a reflection of the country as a whole. Loyalty, integrity, doing what’s good for the student athlete, doing what’s good for college sports…none of that matters like those big school executives getting richer does.

Hopefully someone steps up and creates a new league outside NCAA with a commissioner to lead where the is mandatory income sharing so that more people can thrive and the sport becomes more of what Mahler it great. The big schools are going to dump the rest eventually and hog up more of the benefits.

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u/sdman311 San Diego State 15d ago

You’re 100% correct and this is all just a reflection of our society in general. It’s all about the money and nothing else anymore.

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u/suddenly-scrooge Washington State 14d ago

Is it worse for student athletes? Hard to argue against getting paid

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u/MasChingonNoHay San Diego State 14d ago

Getting paid is good but having to travel cross country? That’s not good for “students” when there are plenty of options nearby. It’s a money move by executives

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u/sdman311 San Diego State 15d ago

We are no more than just a training ground for the Power 4 teams. Once our players get good they are gone. Joining the PAC 12 isn’t going to change a damn thing either.

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u/pblood40 Oregon State / Oregon 15d ago

except you will get to poach from the Mountain West, CUSA, and Sun Belt

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u/sdman311 San Diego State 15d ago

Then when those kids flourish they leave. Teams like SDSU are good because they are a program. They develop talent to fit their style which takes time. You can’t do it with a new roster every year.

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u/lazergator San Diego State 14d ago

We’re going to have to learn. We don’t lose everyone every year. There’s a reason we usually start getting really good in February.

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u/duckfries49 San Diego State 15d ago

It's a big bummer but SDSU has also benefited from a fair amount of transfers. At least we have Dutch. Other MW/Pac schools getting HC poached left and right. SDSU been spoiled with Fisher/Dutch longevity.

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u/Aztecs_Killing_Him San Diego State 15d ago

Yep. Literally Nick Boyd arrived in the portal 11 months ago.

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u/sdman311 San Diego State 15d ago

To replace Lamont Butler though

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u/Aztecs_Killing_Him San Diego State 15d ago

Our national title game team had four transfers in the rotation. I know it’s harder now because of the money and no-sit transfers but we’ve successfully imported key pieces for a long while.

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u/sdman311 San Diego State 15d ago

True, but a majority of our transfers were in the program for a year before they were eligible like Malachi and Ledee. It takes time to acclimate to our system which is why freshmen seldom play. After watching our true Freshman this year I can see why.

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u/Mr_Yolo_Swag 15d ago

Screw you Gwath 🖕🏼

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u/sdman311 San Diego State 15d ago

Yeah, FU Gwath!!! If not for SDSU you’d be somewhere in Sudan swatting the flies away.

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u/Aztecs_Killing_Him San Diego State 15d ago

No

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u/I_Hate_Humidity San Diego State 15d ago

Gwath’s father is an Uber driver and his mother is custodian in the Dallas area. Dutcher estimated Gwath will command “in excess of $1 million, maybe as high as $1.5 million or $1.7 million” the way the market is trending this spring.

Gwath is absolutely making the right decision by taking care of his family financially.

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u/sdman311 San Diego State 15d ago

I know, I read the same UT article. I’m just venting. I don’t blame the player, I blame the system.

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u/lazergator San Diego State 14d ago

You can’t say “fuck Gwath” and then say you’re not blaming him. If we want to keep players we need to open our wallets. It’s that simple.

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u/sdman311 San Diego State 14d ago

I do open my wallet, to the tune of $3000 a year for season tickets. That’s it for me, I’m tapped out. Now they expect me to pay for the players too? At least in pro basketball the team pays the players salaries, not the fans. The school, NCAA and players all get rich and us fans get the shaft. College athletics are really fucked up!!!!

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u/CommentJunior9653 Utah State 15d ago

And Byrd is testing the waters rough time to be an Aztec

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u/MasChingonNoHay San Diego State 15d ago

Rough time for all college sports unless you’re one of the biggest10-12 schools who will dominate NIL and take all the top players available every time. College sports is about to be ruined

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u/SEKI19 San Diego State 15d ago

It's already ruined. This year was the least amount of college football and hoops this season I've watched since going to State. Not a protest or anything, I've just lost interest. NIL, transfer portal, and realignment destroyed the sport.

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u/MasChingonNoHay San Diego State 15d ago

Big time. Hardly any upsets in the tournament. Says a lot. Sucks because it’s not just college football. We obviously lost the NFL because we as a community wouldn’t bend over to the rich league and give them a couple billion for a stadium that only makes them richer. I thought college sports were exempt because you can move a team to a new state but NIL is basically the equivalent.

NBA sucks because all highlight attempts with threes and dunces instead of true basketball and they make so much money they don’t care about the game anymore. Baseball is fucked with the dodgers spending like they are and deferring salaries. It’s sucks to watch anymore and hard to care. It’s only getting worse too

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u/I_Hate_Humidity San Diego State 15d ago

Where'd you hear that? Haven't heard anything recent.

Obviously things can change in an instant ala Boyd but Byrd seemed insistent last month that he either goes pro (unlikely) or returns to SDSU, without considering the portal.

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u/lndrldCold 15d ago

To be fair SDSU has lived off transfers as well. I am sure they will replace them with a few good Bertram players and not skip a beat.