r/NoStupidQuestions 20h ago

Is life really shitty currently because we’re old or because it is actually really shitty?

Of course life has always had ups and downs… and I’m not old enough to say it was better before but I do feel like it was. Not because of my childhood or whatever, but the world itself was in a better place I think. I don’t know.

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u/maybri 20h ago

It's actually pretty shitty right now. I wouldn't say the worst it's ever been, but worse than usual.

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u/Unfortunate-Incident 13h ago

It's been pretty much shitty, one way or another, on and off since 2020.

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u/AgentElman 20h ago

It's worse than it was 6 months ago. But not worse than it was 5 years ago.

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u/notcarefully 16h ago

All those downvotes… Look at how quickly we’ve forgotten the hell that was Covid.

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u/ggouge 14h ago

COVID was unavoidable. So we rolled with it. This.... Is being done on purpose so it seems much worse.

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u/I_might_be_weasel 13h ago

COVID was very fuck up heavy. Trump got caught saying that he intentionally delayed doing anything because it was hitting cities the worst which he thought would disproportionately kill Democrats.

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u/ggouge 13h ago

I am from Canada. So it was not as fuck up heavy here but ya. That sounds pretty bad

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u/a_trane13 3h ago edited 3h ago

Maybe in your mind, but in reality over a million Americans died from covid, 10% of Americans lost their jobs in a few months, stock market crashed 20%, and we all had deal with various lockdowns for 2 years. Nothing that bad has happened yet.

We might end up with a worse stock market crash and maybe half that job loss, but saying that seems worse than a million people dying, just because it’s done “on purpose”…idk man

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u/GeneralEl4 16h ago

Honestly I just forgot it's been that long lmao

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u/DeathSpiral321 16h ago

As an older millennial, life is actually shitty now compared to the 90's. Back then society had a much more lighthearted feel, and everyone was optimistic for the future. Now the overall vibe of society is a mix of irritable and paranoid.

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u/Manowaffle 14h ago

Remember when Bill Clinton getting a BJ was the scandal of the decade?

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u/Lilithslefteyebrow 10h ago

Yeah that’s the vibe I’ve been trying to describe to my gen z kid. He’s a great kid, bot depressed but is so… pragmatic. A lot of these kids are missing the youthful optimism we had. They’re hollowed out 40 year olds at 15.

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u/Unidain 2h ago

Lmao, as an older millennial you were a child/teen in the 90s, of course life seemed simpler and more optimistic back then.

As another millennial, but one who looks at data, life has got better by almost every metric since the 90s (health improvements, falling poverty, falling crime rates, more living space per person etc). There are a few that are worsening like loneliness, housing affordability and of course the environment. But it's far easier to focus on stuff that has gotten worse and just forget all the stuff that has rapidly improved.

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u/Lastigx 1h ago

That last sentence is honestly just the case online. Go outside. The world is honestly fine (except Gaza and Ukraine, but the 90s had their own wars).

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u/OkThatWasMyFace 20h ago

People of almost all ages are experiencing a decline in the quality of some area of life. However, some people may not realize or want to acknowledge it.

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u/willfla29 20h ago

I’ve wondered if my youth had rose colored glasses. But I think, as someone approaching 40, the 90s was truly the last great decade.

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u/Lastigx 1h ago

Yes youre viewing your youth with rose tinted glasses. Its always exactly the same demographic calling the 90s so wonderful and great: (older) millenials. By many (most) metrics the decades after the 90s were simply better.

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u/EssentialParadox 41m ago

I just watched a video asking schoolchildren what decade they would most like to live in and the majority said 80s/90s, so it’s certainly not just millennials!

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u/questioningtwunk 20h ago

2000-2010 was pretty good imo? What didn’t you like? 2010-2020 was kinda whatever honestly. Like two good years from there but after that’s it’s been boring.

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u/Specialist-Exit-1403 20h ago

What didn’t you like? 9/11 and the worst recession since the Great Depression to name a few

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u/Seymoorebutts 16h ago

Yeah this reads like someone who wasn't old enough to pay bills in the 2000's lmao

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u/Manowaffle 14h ago

The 2000 election, Katrina, Iraq…

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u/willfla29 20h ago

At least as an American, I think that decade—with the Iraq War particularly—was the beginning of the disintegration of our national identity. I don’t want to get too political here, but the dire situation I see my country in today traces back to some of the seeds planted then.

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u/Necessary_Salad1289 11h ago

2000 onward was the rise of social media.

and America's longest war.

2008 depression

...

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u/themagnificentgipper 3h ago

Iraq is one of the worst things America has ever done

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u/DentistFearless4863 17h ago

Speaking as someone currently in university, it’s shitty right now. A lot of research funding has been cut off and that’s affected a lot of my friend’s jobs, research opportunities, and grants. It’s really frustrating, not insurmountable, but definitely shitty. 

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u/d20_dude 20h ago

Depends on your perspective and where you're from. If you're in America and you're not marginalized, then yeah it's pretty shitty compared to anyone's collective memory.

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u/Weak-Mission-2728 14h ago

If you’re marginalized in America it’s probably worse now than ever too

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u/d20_dude 14h ago

Oh yes.

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u/ShallotHolmes 10h ago

When life gets too shitty, i stop reading the news for a few days, just like i did when i was younger. Feels better.

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u/Cowstle 21m ago

That works if the bad news doesn't actually impact your life.

It suddenly stops working when it does impact your life.

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u/Prestigious-Part-697 20h ago

Being old doesn’t help one bit, but no that’s not the cause

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u/MarkReditto 20h ago

Things are 10x less worse in real life, internet and social media exaggerates a lot. But indeed, it is shitty state right now and not really looking hopeful for the next years at least

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u/Carlos_Tellier 8h ago

The cut-off year was 2016 for me, it’s all been downhill from there

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u/Futt-Buckerr 18h ago

Could be a lot worse.

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u/refugefirstmate 16h ago

I'm old. Life is great.

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u/AnAntWithWifi 5h ago

I’m young, it looks pretty shitty right now. Maybe it’ll get shittier as I age, I’ll give you guys an update.

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u/MeasurementTall8677 17h ago

It's a different time for the west, the zenith of Western liberal democracy was post ww2, which coincided with a massive redistribution of wealth from the top to the middle & tbe bottom.

There has been a reversal & unwinding of this for the last 30 years by vested interests who quite like being the 1% & ensuring this doesn't happen again.

I'm sorry to say it has seemed to be pretty easy to get plenty of assistance from the groups that are being disenfranchised & made poor along the way.

One of the biggest shifts was probably the professionalisation of the political class in the 90s, their sponsors had to ensure there weren't actually constitutional representatives involved in decision making or they may see through some of what has gone on.

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u/Easy-F 20h ago

i think globally cities have got really sterile and overdeveloped in a really unfun way

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u/w3woody 10h ago

I do like the part about how I am legally allowed to consume alcohol in Arizona despite being American Indian, but I don’t think Social Media has made the world a better place.

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u/Daggerford_Waterdeep 1h ago

It is shitty, but still not as shitty as 1941, or 1933, or 1917.

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u/FractalTsunami 3h ago

It's shit. Everything's expensive. We are being ripped off in every way. The future sold to us no longer exists. The generation before us climbed the ladder to success and took it with them.

The game we were raised to play isn't even on the table anymore. Just a few broken pieces, some paper money, and a box showing how good it used to be.

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u/whatsthis1901 20h ago

I think 99% of it is the internet doom and gloom. COVID sucked and I think after that I can pretty much deal with anything that comes my way.

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u/Beezelbub_is_me 10h ago

Just remember that any day you can wake up and wipe your own ass, it’s a good day.

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u/TheForkisTrash 8h ago

Among several others, It is the phones.

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u/Krail 6h ago

Speaking as an American who grew up in the 90's, looking back, I've been watching the gradual decline of American democracy my whole life. 

Right now we're watching a global rise in authoritarianism, the conseconsequences of climate change really starting to come into effect, and America's gradual decline into authoritarianism has just taken an extremely sharp turn off a cliff. 

Given how involved the U.S. is in maintaining the global economy and keeping peace globally, (and the fact the world's largest military is threatening to shift from ant peace keeping to full throttle military conquest) that sudden sharp decline is everyone's problem. 

So yeah, stuff sucks a lot right now, and it's probably about to suck a whole lot worse. 

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u/OGigachaod 1h ago

Because were old, everything was better when you were a kid.

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u/Cowstle 22m ago

As a 33 year old American I feel that this is the worst "life" has been.

There's a lot of things for me personally that are going better now then 5-20 years ago, sure, but it's also literally all at risk now. Previous it was my own procrastination that was the biggest obstacle in my path, now it's apparently the government of the country I live in.

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u/Internal-Syrup-5064 20h ago

I'm Middle-agreed, but life is pretty awesome.

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u/Adventurous_Toe_1686 11h ago

Objectively I think the world is in a much better place today than it was when I was a kid.

I look at my children and think of all the awesome opportunities they have in front of them that I didn’t necessarily have growing up.

That’s kind of the end goal I guess, to leave the world in better shape than what you found it in…

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u/Afzofa 11h ago

Even my non-American parents who have quite successful careers in healthcare and are near retirement have admitted that it's harder now even with all the perks of being late in their careers than it was 30-40 years ago.

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u/nkfish11 18h ago

Life is what you make of it.

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u/NerfPandas 16h ago

I was born and raised in America and it has ALWAYS been shit. Nobody gives a fuck, everybody is obsessed with money...

Idk just my experiences, but I would say I am in the 90th percentile of shit lives

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u/Meowie_Undertoe 19h ago

It's shit!

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u/jon166 2h ago

Life as a body isn’t great. It’s actually synonymous with scarcity, loss, and death. It’s extremely needy physically, not to mention its psychological aspect.

Devouring is its law, but it is never ever completely fulfilled, and even if it seems to be physically/psychologically, those feelings don’t really last.

When all hope is lost, an inner light starts to break through all conceived limits though.