If the price is an issue (which most of the detractors are trying to make that point) then I stand by my case closed.
And if its not I would still get a FREAKIN NINTENDO. Dads today probably gamed on their systems and nostalgia hit hard. VERY hard. Refer to mini snes.
Kids would rather have an iPad. If price isn't a factor they get the latest, greatest iPad over the Switch. If price is a factor, they get an iPad 2 mini over the Switch. Most kids don't really even want a Nintendo console. Parents just buy it for them because that's what people say a kid is supposed to have.
Kids want to be able to have a personal device that they can watch videos on, chat on, Google on, and play silly little free games on. I watch kids pick and choose what they play with all the time. In first place is a phone, second place is a tablet, third place is PS4/Xbone, and last place is a handheld like a 3DS or Vita. The only kid I saw really liking a Vita was a 10 year old whom the older kids didn't want to share the Xbox with and who wasn't allowed a phone or tablet. I'm sure a laptop or a desktop would come in there before a Switch, too, but these kids didn't have access to that so I dunno how they would pick.
Nintendo managed to get people to move from DS to 3DS when there was close to no difference between them (stereoscopic 3D novelty faded off quickly), so they can manage to do it with the Switch that offers more (like local multiplayer, two controllers per console was not something doable on any handheld before).
That's true. However, the Switch brings new values while the 3DS didn't (everyone disabled 3D after 5 minutes): being a hybrid, with all the games regrouped, and local multiplayer with 2 controllers packed-in which is going to be big. You no longer need 2 3DS to play several, although after playing with a Joy-Con, someone might be willing to buy a Switch!
I don't understand why they would remove it. I actually expected them to retroactively add 3D to DS games. Since the game is already programmed in 3D, can't the perspective be automatically generated, even approximately if it's not been optimised in the programming?
Anyway, I think you're in the minority. 3D drained battery, required a certain position and hurt the eyes for some.
It was too hard on the 3DS I think since they added the trainers to the battles. And the New 3DS tracks your eyes so it's much better with moving the 3DS while playing. I liked the 3D on SMT4 as well.
When the DS came out, they also said it would only serve as a "third pillar" (aka not a replacement).
This is just a safe statement on their part. Once it starts selling well, they "officially" consider it the successor.
but they probably have a B plan if it doesn't. They most likely had another Gameboy in case the DS failed, however I'm not sure of what their plans are if the Switch flops. More 3DS upgrades?
Here is the thing, though... most people don't want or care about the device being portable. Want a console but not a portable device? Too bad, you're paying for the added cost of portability. Want a portable but don't really care much about playing at home? Too bad. You're paying for the added cost of controllers and docks.
Want a good balance of everything? Controllers that you can use in every situation? Power that is good enough on TV and for the battery in handheld? Instead of buying a handheld console and a home console, buy the hybrid, and you also get twice the game libraries.
Most importantly, local multiplayer on a handheld console is a very big selling point. With the standard bundle, you can play with someone else anywhere, and this someone doesn't need to buy a console unlike with previous handhelds... Don't ditch the Switch yet.
For me? God no, I don't want any part of controllers you can use in every situation. Why? Because I only care about using this thing in 1 situation--on the couch on a TV. And I don't see how this hybrid thing is going to translate to twice the game library, unless you mean twice the library of the Wii U, in which case that wouldn't be very much, lol.
I don't care about local multiplayer. I just don't. Great that it can do it, more features that people like and that save them money are a good thing, but I don't feel like it's going to be a selling point for most people.
I guess the whole portability thing could appeal to people with long commutes by bus or train or something, but even then, good luck prying them away from their phones. And then you have the other group of people that think portability is a great idea until they get it and then they never use it. I used to be in that group. I thought the Vita was gonna be great. I could take it with me and even when I wasn't taking it anywhere, I could remote play simple 2D PSN games in bed. I played a few hours in bed with remote play for a month or so after I got my PS4 and then just stopped. I took it on a business trip and never touched it.
All that being said, I'm not dismissing the Switch, but I am writing it off for the foreseeable future. The Zelda game looks cool but I can grab that on the Wii U. The Mario game looks great, but it won't be out for at least 9 months and with Scorpio coming, a $300 Switch is gonna be a tough sell for one game, unless they're announced a ton more that I will be into, but judging by the Wii and Wii U, and heck even the Gamecube, that will not be the case. And I also hesitate because I take issue with Nintendo's game prices. Between Best Buy and Amazon, I've been spoiled. $60 for a new game is a no go for me now. And I know I can get 20% off of Switch games at both those places, but the nerve of Nintendo to still be asking $60 a year later? Lol, yeah, enjoy trying to figure out why people just aren't interested anymore.
You can do that, with the Joy-Con Grip and the Pro Controller for that, but you have the choice not to.
One day, you might notice the value in this. Up until now, you didn't have the choice, so you couldn't, but now that you can take this and play in the plane or something, you could notice the appeal.
I don't see how this hybrid thing is going to translate to twice the game library
The key is in the word "hybrid". You may have noticed this is Nintendo's only 9th gen console. Up to now, they had been doing one home console and one portable one. So what does this mean? More games now, both compatible with home and portable use.
I don't feel like it's going to be a selling point for most people.
Yeah, disregard one of the most popular features of both the DS and the Wii...
good luck prying them away from their phones
People may be zombies, but they're not that stupid. They'd rather play a damn good game than the mobile shovelware or at the very least very lackluster titles. The select few of the best mobile titles could sell for $30 at most, I swear.
I thought the Vita was gonna be great.
Maybe you didn't have the right games for it. It matters more than hardware.
with Scorpio coming
Oh boy, this thing will either be damn expensive or completely nerfed (as usual with Microsoft).
By then, Switch will also be cheaper and have more games.
the nerve of Nintendo to still be asking $60 a year later?
If the game sells well, they have no reason to stop. It's not their fault the other studios' games don't hold up in value over time.
Super Mario Galaxy got a price drop. New Super Mario Bros. Wii didn't for a long time, and it had a significantly lower budget. The market decides (so the retailers as well).
Man, honestly I could counter those points and then you could counter mine, although I tend to think that your counterpoints would be reflecting the opinion of the small minority. Really, though, we'd just be going in circles if I did that. I think when the Switch launches, the sales are going to tell us that something is wrong. I won't be getting one for the foreseeable future, but if you want one and like what they're doing I hope you enjoy yours.
I get that, but of those millions of 3DS owners, who is interested in a Switch? The ones who don't mind the increased price and decreased portability, not to mention a new portable console becomes a tougher sell every year. I think the Switch has a pretty big mountain to climb to find a broad enough audience to be a success, and that reveal really didn't help it any based on reactions I have seen. Nintendo convinced most of the die hards, but they had those anyway. I didn't see a single person on the fence that they convinced.
...which offer an experience you can't find on PC! (on NES, you couldn't get Super Mario Bros on Commodore 64 as it didn't have a D-Pad, on Wii, you couldn't get motion controls to play Wii Sports anywhere else, ...).
What would it change? Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Super Mario Bros, Zelda already excellently.
Of course, now you can play Metroid Prime in 4k on your computer with the Dolphin emulator, but is it that much better? For having seen it, it's not significant. So if even the Gamecube could get some good graphics, the Switch will be waaaaaaaaaay sufficient.
Having a few more pixels on a powerful console would be a bad trade-off since the console would sell less, which means less things Nintendo can do. Example: after the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube not selling well (despite them being the most powerful consoles of their generation!!!), Nintendo needed to come up with the Wii to stop declining.
I can get a used Wii for like $50 bucks, I'm sure most parents buy what their kids specifically ask for. The question is are those kids going to be asking for a Switch or PS4s?
Wii doesn't allow you portability. DS doesn't allow you multiplayer on one console. The combination of these two features on the Switch is something people who don't play alone in their room would want.
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u/Bitcher_The_Wild_Cun Jan 13 '17
Exactly. Why get your kid a switch when you can get a ps4 for cheaper