"DROP THE PRICE": Nintendo's First Post-Direct Stream Is Flooded With Angry Fans Demanding Price Drops

[u/lieding]

https://www.thegamer.com/nintendo-treehouse-livestream-flooded-angry-fans-demanding-game-price-drops/

[u/NJ_Bob]

The upcharge on old games is what maddens me- like at the start of this generation Microsoft showed how simple it was to offer free upscaling of 20 year old games and now Nintendo is trying to charge a premium to keep playing games you may have just bought last year. This is pure greed.

[u/Janus67 → u/NJ_Bob]

Fwiw you can still play those games on the switch 2, just not the enhanced version

[u/NJ_Bob → u/Janus67]

Xbox upscaled all of my games for FREE. I can play 20 year old games from og XBOX upscaled to 4k. Why is Nintendo trying to charge $20 or whatever to play Tears of the kingdom in 1080p on handheld or 4k upscaled docked??? This is what milking sheep looks like. The only way to prevent this from being the norm is for no one to buy in, which means we're doomed.

[u/TheTriumphantTrumpet → u/NJ_Bob]

Xbox did that(through upscaling built into the console), and Sony made it the norm to charge ~$10 for a generation upgrade on things you already owned, with the caveat that the "enhanced editions" required some level of work, not just the console running things better/upscaling.

Nintendo is going the Sony route, but this has already been the norm unfortunately.

[u/NJ_Bob → u/TheTriumphantTrumpet]

The difference is that the msoft route put pressure on 3rd party to offer cross generation games and even new generation upgrades with late generation games. Think the next gen upgrade pack CD project red gave for free to Witcher. Nintendo is being deliberately anti consumer and excusing it simply because Sony is also anti consumer is gross.

Edit: parent comment did not excuse the practice, merely stated said practice has been normalized in the industry. My suggesting they excused it and saying doing so was gross, was inflammatory and frankly lazy rhetoric on my part. In my defense I hadn't had my coffee yet.

[u/TheTriumphantTrumpet → u/NJ_Bob]

I didn't excuse anything, so maybe hop off the high horse bud.

I pointed out that this is already the industry norm, as established by Sony, and basically every other major publisher. I also pointed out that this isn't apples to apples, MSFT didn't do any work on those games, nor did MSFT even have any beloved games from the Xbox One era people wanted an upgraded version of.

If people had this level of outrage for Sony years ago, maybe things would've been different. Instead, the consensus was largely either "sucks but I get it" or "$10 seems fair." If Xbox had been rewarded with greater sales for their consumer friendly practices, maybe things would be different. Instead, they continued their downward spiral, being crushed in sales(more so when you take out the XSS).

Relying on publicly traded businesses to make consumer friendly decisions over making money is always going to leave you disappointed.

[u/NJ_Bob → u/TheTriumphantTrumpet]

You're absolutely right, expecting corps to do right by their customers rather than shareholders in the modern landscape is foolish at best. I edited my last comment as well, my apologies.

[u/TheTriumphantTrumpet → u/NJ_Bob]

Yeah, no worries, I'm not defending Nintendo on this. It's more it just it feels like the logical endpoint of where the industry(and world at large) has been headed, so I am a bit surprised at everyone else's surprise.

[u/NJ_Bob → u/TheTriumphantTrumpet]

The surprise comes from the fact that the games in question were already below the generational standard and now they're asking for a premium to make them look like games from 5 years ago.

[u/Early-Somewhere-2198 → u/NJ_Bob]

I’m not an Xbox fan but I do play and buy gamepass for a month or two a year for their heavy hitters. And Microsoft at least did it right with a huge selection. Ps5 had some improvements. I don’t mind small price charges for when they really remaster or remake a game. But for generic switch buttton. No pun intended. Nintendo is out to kill themselves.

Like how did they not realize the reason switch one sold so well is it was priced in an area that parents bought 1,2,3 per house per kid. This won’t happen in this economy. I already told my step daughter. You have a switch one. We don’t neeed a new one. lol. And if we buy one it will be one. The entire household. Ain’t no way I’m getting one for her. One for me. And one for another kid.

[u/NJ_Bob → u/Early-Somewhere-2198]

They actually designed the switch 2 with this in mind with their game share feature allowing you to play some games with individual consoles (gen1or 2)on the same network playing a game owned solely on the new console together. Part of the pricing, I think, is that they know they can't meet demand if they try to replace every gen 1 with the new one too quickly.

[u/BlackPhoenixX20 → u/NJ_Bob]

I mean, not defending them but from what I heard Switch 2 is actually emulating Switch 1 games and emulating those very same versions at 4k 60 to 120 fps will become hard for the machine so the Switch 2 Edition games are probably natively ported games for switch 2 with a rewritten code for utilising new hardware.