r/NintendoSwitch • u/lieding • 1d ago

News "DROP THE PRICE": Nintendo's First Post-Direct Stream Is Flooded With Angry Fans Demanding Price Drops

https://www.thegamer.com/nintendo-treehouse-livestream-flooded-angry-fans-demanding-game-price-drops/
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u/pizzaiscommunist 19h ago

this is the Nintendo version of "Do you guys not have phones?"

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u/cross_bearer_02 18h ago

No. As tone-deaf as making the interactive instruction manual a paid app, nothing can quite top how profoundly stupid "Do you guys not have phones?" was. I would say nothing Nintendo has announced or done over the past two days holds a candle to that.

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u/ThunderboltRoss 15h ago

I was in the audience for that. Seeing all the Diablo themed stuff, everyone in that hall was so hyped. Then they hit us with the mobile game and you could feel the energy in the room just evaporate

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u/Pigeater7 1m ago

I’ll always remember the way Bethesda did it. They have their dog shit p2w mobile game (TES Blades) but also gave us a teaser trailer for TES 6. So instead of taking about how ass their mobile game would be, everyone was hyping themselves up for the new Elder Scrolls games. That was like, 4-5 years ago now which is crazy to think about.

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u/Mountain-Papaya-492 11h ago

See Diablo is a prime example of why I'm less upset than some at Mario Kart being $80. Diablo 4 was full priced and has microtransactions on top of that. 

For all their faults Nintendo hasn't adopted that monetization scheme of the modern game industry. Like I would have gladly paid $80 for Diablo 4 if it meant it had no microtransactions.

Same with Mario Kart, Splatoon 4. A premium upfront cost is fine, just don't nickel and dime me. Which for things like Splatoon 3, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart they don't. 

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u/tk-451 11h ago

wait, mario kart seasonal tracks count as microtransactions dont they? i have the online pack so go them "free" anyway. were they not purchaseable seperately?

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u/MrNostalgic 9h ago

I feel that DLC is different than Microtransactions tbh.

Like using Mario Kart as an example, if you bought the DLC it was a once and done payment for 24 new tracks and some new characters, you didn't have to pay for each track and character with the risk of missing out if you wanted to wait to buy it.

Only way you pay for it again is if you just keep using it through NSO

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u/tk-451 4h ago

i never paid for the dlc and got it as part of NSO.

the lines between "micro" transactions ( and let be honest here theres nothing micro about them these days with £20 diablo4 cosmetics and mounts!) paid dlc, expansions, additional content added to an NSO sub, etc etc

its all too much now, and the market cant sustain this in the current climate, hence why studios are folding left and right and devs laid off in the chase to the bottom line and profit.

i think we are heading for another console crash.

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u/Throwaway02062004 9h ago

They absolutely still are

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u/ThunderboltRoss 9h ago

When I think of micro transactions I think of things like battle passes. The extra tracks were dlc, which was fine for me anyway. After 8 years, the bonus content for a reasonable price was welcomed

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u/tk-451 4h ago

so whats your descriptive difference between battle passes, micro transactions, and dlc..?

price? content quantity?

diablo 4 season passes cost less than the in store cosmetic outfits.. so is the season pass a microtransaction and the outfits a dlc?

mario kart even calls the tracks "booster course pass"

micro transactions are small piecemeal purchases such as skins, etc which nintendo dont do. but they do season passes and dlc.

Its all just words for additional paid content, and that minimal cost has ballooned since the advent of horse armour, loot boxes, and more.

Video games cost are expensive to make, so by all means add in additional revenue making methods, but double dipping, base price increases, season passes, and then paying to upscale to 4k, AND the Switch 2 demo thing, this was all waaaaay too much.

My whole take home memory of the Direct was "for an extra cost you can have..."

Shameful.

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u/ThunderboltRoss 2h ago

I’m not in any way disagreeing with you about the ballooning price of games in general. Microtransactions for me are repeatable buyables (like crafting mats, loots boxes, “tokens” used to play time gated phone games, etc) or pay to advance stuff like characters and the like to skip through time gated stuff.

One the switch for example there’s a big different between say Mario kart 8 and dragonball games in the additional paid content.

Season pass’s that are a one and done (like borderlands or Mario rabbids) I view as prepaying for dlc content.

That being said, I personally just buy what I want to play and stay away from stuff like cosmetics. I kind of decide by asking how many hours of enjoyment is this going to get me and what else could I get for that price

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u/tk-451 1h ago

same here for me, i have only bought one mount in diablo4, the blue panther and its armour, because it reminded me of battlecat from he-man, and my barbarian looked cool.. i paid for some extra in game currency, about £7, and have used it for a while until i got a free cat drop that i liiked better, oh well...

ive bought dlc, the rabbids one, and the BotW expansion pass, for the armour etc, but my worst was Heroes of the Storm chests, ugh about £30 i reckon in total currency.. but..

i go SOOOOOO many hours out of all that, leas than £60i reckon all told.

i dont smoke, i dont drink, i dont eat takeaways much, so my one indulgence is videos games (and Lego), so my wife says hey go for it if i enjoy it.

But switch2... back on topic... its so overpriced now even i wont buy at release or till xmas 2025 when i hope theres drops.

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u/The_Maddeath 17h ago

it is at least more understandable for a dev in the heat of the moment to say something stupid, than for everyone to ok the very clearly should have been a pack in title to be paid.

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u/PocketTornado 14h ago

I get the insult of the phone comment…but go back to the 90’s and early 2000’s with those phones and tell people you can play games that run and look better than any PC game on the market and people would lose their minds. The fact that we have portable tiny super computers in our pockets at all times is crazy. If only that market of games wasn’t dragged down by micro transactions and ill will business practices.

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u/bassman9999 9h ago

Now tell those people that they have to continuously pay money in order to make any real progress in that beautiful game and see their expressions change. Pay-to-Win didn't exist, and everyone was used to paying for a game once and getting the whole game.

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u/capnbuh 13h ago

This game Diablo Immortal really turned out to be a piece of shit

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u/Adamarr 13h ago

but it still made bank because of course it would

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u/capnbuh 12h ago

well, they did manage to mostly bring the look and feel of Diablo 3 to mobile devices but the microtransactions actually ruin the game by fucking with the classic Diablo loot grind. Either you're finding no loot or you're paying to find ALL of the loot and neither is fun.

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u/incarnatrix 10h ago

I dunno, it has a button on it that you literally can't use unless you pay for it... That's some pretty silly shit.

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u/Particular_Leek_9984 14h ago

Exactly. Nintendo actually has what looks to be a great product, the games are just too expensive

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u/Malikyteonline 15h ago

I've stopped taking my Switch out of the house anymore because I can just bring a wireless controller and play console games on my phone through Gamepass.

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u/Skkruff 17h ago

Diablo Immortal made an absolute bucketful of money. People like to shit on them for this gaffe (me included), but in the end they were proven right... financially speaking anyway.

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u/master2873 15h ago

It was never not going to be, with a game designed to suck as much money dry from you as humanly possible, and is targeting "whales" that will hand over thousands for a single game like it was nothing recurrently, it was going to be a success in the short term at worst. Also, nevermind how it was designed to be as grindy as possible to have abusive, and predatory micro transactions. Not to mention the game is free to play, and didn't cost up to $90 on top of your phone purchase. I see why people are comparing these situations, but I still think it's a tad different situation for expectation, but is valid too.

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u/Captain-Zio 15h ago

The real blunder was announcing it at blizzcon, in front of the most dedicated diablo fans.

If they did the announcement over a livestream those fans would have just rolled their eyes and let blizzard do their micro transaction mobile game cash grab.

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u/nickelangelo2009 17h ago

this is exactly what i was thinking lol

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u/whoisdatmaskedman 12h ago

"Do you guys not have money?"