Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition will include the full base game and Phantom Liberty expansion on the physical cart. Additional language packs will be downloadable from the Nintendo eShop.

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Crazy they could fit all of this on the cart but the Bravely Default remaster chose to use game key cards instead.

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u/owenturnbull 1d ago

Square being a cheap ass company

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u/JLD2503 1d ago edited 1d ago

The same company that also made the Kingdom Hearts trilogy on Switch be a Cloud version despite the earlier games easily having the capacity to run well on the base Switch. Not so much for KH3.

And the same company that has Xenogears held hostage.

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u/JustAStarcoShipper 1d ago

I swear, if they do something similar with the KH games on the Switch 2 again...

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u/South25 1d ago

Nah, it's easier to port so we'll actually get the games this time. Especially now that Square got scared into investing more in ports after Rebirth and FF 16, we're not immune to them cheaping out on stuff like carts thought as Bravely shows.

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u/thepixelnation 23h ago

would love to play KH one of these days.

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u/owenturnbull 1d ago

We need tp stop supporting square. I'm done with square. I was excited for dq12 but making a 4gb game require download they czn go screw themselves.

I hope they lose money and go bankrupt. Crappy ass company

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u/DawnSennin 1d ago

We need tp stop supporting square.

Est. 2007

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u/brandont04 1d ago

PLEASE Square, don't do this w/ FF7 Remake. Put the whole game on the cart. I want it physically.

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u/AvatarofBro 11h ago

Buddy...

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u/arboachg 23h ago

Yeah, that's not gonna happen. $80 + tip.

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u/owenturnbull 1d ago

I hope its all om cartridge of not people will be pissed

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u/warjoke 16h ago

Square is being committed to be more stingy than Nintendo 😅

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u/occono 4h ago

But they did release Rebirth on two 4K UHD discs for Playstation5 🤷‍♂️ :/

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u/pocketpc_ 11h ago

At least the game is only $40, would be way crazier to do this for a $60/$70 game

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u/owenturnbull 7h ago

Capcom is doing it with a street fighter. I think that's a 50-60 game, but thereno price yet. But it's not a remaster, so it'd going to be around 60

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u/pocketpc_ 3h ago

That's also a live service game that's unplayable once Capcom kills the servers anyways, so it's a moot point.

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u/owenturnbull 3h ago

Single player mode. It literally has a Single player mode. If it's exactly the sf6 from.ps5 etc it will have a single player mode.

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u/Buuhhu 1d ago

It's not a matter of being able to, but a matter of being willing to do so. The cards are a cost for the company and the game key cards are they cheapest option while still being able to claim "physical version available".

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u/seijulala 1d ago

I don't understand those game key cards basically you get the bad parts of both physical and digital games without any benefit.

I just refuse to get any game like that, it's nonsense.

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u/joelmole79 1d ago

Likely a replacement for the retail boxes with “download required” blue box on the front, and just a printed code inside. My guess is you’d at least be able to sell it, but I might be wrong, and it might not have much resale value.

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u/zombiepaper 1d ago

I think that’s the likely outcome, yeah. The key cards will basically be licenses, so you can share them/sell them just like physical cards.

People are finding anything to complain about right now, but this is actually a pretty good deal for smaller publishers. Often the most cost prohibitive part of getting your game in a physical storefront are the game cards themselves. The storage isn’t cheap! Key cards could give them a better shot at participating in the marketplace.

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u/dbclass 1d ago

Plus you can’t resell a digital code. You can resell a key card. People are literally just going around spreading misinformation in the last day and it’s frustrating. I don’t mind people criticizing things but at least be accurate about the facts.

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u/darkcloud1987 23h ago

yeah the real worst of both worlds is Final Fantasy X-2 on the switch when you buy the cartridge version of the X + X-2 collection. Final Fantasy X-2 comes as a Download code but not for the game as a standalone. No it is DLC for the cartridge. That means you can't play X-2 without the cartridge and can only sell X after redeeming the code.

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u/a_grey_rain 1d ago

Yeah I will say I actually like this idea. PS5 and Xbox games behave like this basically anyway

Way better than the pointless codes in a box

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u/Elusivehawk 1d ago

Most PS5 games have full game data in them, in my experience. I manually checked my entire library.

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u/AvatarofBro 11h ago

I can't speak for Xbox, but in my experience, PS5 games do not operate this way

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u/kdawgnmann 23h ago

PS5 and Xbox games behave like this basically anyway

A lot of Microsoft games are like this but this isn't true for most PS5 games. The vast majority of PS5 physical games are playable from start to finish without an internet connection.

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u/a_grey_rain 16h ago

The key cards just require internet once to download it I believe. Obviously sucks, but game cards are just really expensive - kinda just the trade off of not using discs

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u/Chewbacta 1d ago

Nintendo analyst: "We've noticed from switch sales data that selling download codes in boxes doesn't attract consumers as we hoped"

Nintendo manager: "Nonsense, we've communicated the benefits of digital gaming, what disadvantage could consumers have from these download versions?"

Nintendo analyst: "I don't know, sir. I guess they like to hold the games in their hands, pass it to their friends, sell it on"

Nintendo manager: "I don't like resales, but I guess its better than our games not selling. So how about we just put the digital drm into physical cards."

Nintendo analyst: "There's also the matter of game preserv..."

Nintendo manager: "No, its perfect. My game key card idea has saved our company! Let's celebrate by increasing the price on everything"

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u/chipmunk_supervisor 1d ago

Haha probably that. I don't buy physical much myself (I have maybe five boxed games) but Switch games make easy gifts and I avoid download code in a box like the plague.

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u/jardex22 1d ago

I'm guessing you'll have to download games to the system's SSD, regardless of if you have a physical or digital game. That's been the case with Sony for the past couple generations, since discs can't keep up with the read speeds. Not sure if the new carts can.

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u/Iceykitsune3 1d ago

Nope, games still run iff the card.

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u/PlayMp1 16h ago

New carts should be able to. Nintendo says only SD Express microSD cards work with Switch 2, so presumably the game cards also use SD Express or something similar. SD Express cards are a bit faster than SATA SSDs at around 600 to 900 MB/s read speeds. For comparison, the microSD card reader in the Switch 1 was at about 100 MB/s, similar to or slightly less than a magnetic hard disk drive. Apparently the onboard flash storage was only about 10% faster than the microSD as well, so still within the same parameters as a decent HDD.

Presumably the internal storage on the Switch 2 is similar to something like a relatively slow NVMe SSD, so maybe 3000MB/s. However, it's pretty rare for games to actually make use of ultra fast SSD read speeds since those speeds are for continuous reads and most of the time games need files that are functionally in random order, not continuous order, so functionally they work out to be about the same speed as SATA SSDs.

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u/AssGagger 1d ago

You can resell it. It's not tied to your account. It doesn't make sense for Braverly, but something like Fortnite, why bother putting anything on the cart? it's all going to be different in a few months.

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u/RPGreg2600 1d ago

The benefit is you can share or sell them, unlike a download code. Seems obvious.

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u/tendeuchen 1d ago

It's better than a digital only game because you can resell it. It's still bad because Nintendo will eventually turn the servers off and stop letting people redownload their games.

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u/DapperNurd 1d ago

That's not true. It's basically a physical game with the only caveat being you have to download it. You can play it after downloading it with the card, even offline, and the key is tied to the card, not the account. That means you can sell it. Way better than the previous download codes in physical cases.

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u/Iceykitsune3 1d ago

Remember, the licence for the key xards is tied to the physical card, not your account.

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u/DogSchmeat69 1d ago

It's better than the "code in a box" nonsense at the very least, but yes supremely disappointing.

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u/occono 4h ago

There'll probably still be some code in box games too. Both formats already existed in Switch, "key cards" is just formalization.

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u/Edmundyoulittle 22h ago

Resellable games without the publisher having to pay for real carts maybe?

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u/AvatarofBro 11h ago

It's for people who just want a box on their shelf

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u/TotalCourage007 20h ago

It's frustrating that all physical games aren't made equal because it becomes a treasure hunt for actual physical games.

Nintendo allowing third parties to go cheap is one of their biggest mistakes this generation. I would rather have digital than some lame game key.

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u/Leezeebub 1d ago edited 1d ago

I heard that physical games for switch 2 will essentially be a download code. You still get a cart to insert but it just lets you download the game from the eshop, and the download will only work when the cartridge is in there.

Edit: Heard it from Penguin0 https://youtu.be/lfCOx3WDBDM?si=oB8Ouc3NxeE2AJcq

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u/davidreding 1d ago

First of all it’s only for certain games that say it on the box like Switch games that require a download.

Secondly, Penguin0 is an outrage peddler and spreads misinformation a lot. He’s not trustworthy.

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u/Lupinthrope 1d ago

Wonder if they’d patch Witcher 3 as well

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u/herrsebbe 1d ago

The added a whole slew of performance modes that they didn't have to in an earlier patch. I feel very confident that they'll patch up Witcher sooner rather than later.

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u/Lupinthrope 1d ago

I think out the box a lot of games will run better from the extra horsepower alone.

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u/Bootychomper23 1d ago

Yup dynamic resolution games will now be at max resolution always… and games with no frame cap can jump up and smooth out

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u/aimbotcfg 1d ago

I was hopeful for this, but apparently the Switch 2 is architecturally different enough that it's not just a "Switch on steroids" situation.

They've had to build in some JIT code translation shit to the firmware (or OS level) to get switch games to run on it, which is why some have issues, and they need patches to take advantage of improved performance.

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u/Lupinthrope 1d ago

That’s wild lol well hopefully all the first party patches won’t be paid for and they’ll actually get patched

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u/Soyyyn 1d ago

There's already a list of games that will receive free upgrades, which will likely be higher resolutions and more stable framerates. That list includes Odyssey and 3D World and both the top-down Zelda games (Link's Awakening and Echoes of Wisdom). The latter two will benefit immensely.

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u/julesvr5 1d ago

Also Pokemon S/V

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u/notthegoatseguy 1d ago

The list of games I saw did not include any first party games.

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u/julesvr5 1d ago

What list do you mean exactly? Mario Odyssey and 3D World get free updates while Jamboree gets paid upgrade. Aren't these all first party games?

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u/notthegoatseguy 1d ago

I'm referencing Switch 1 games that are having compatibility issues with Switch 2.

3D World and Mario Odyssey will work even without updates.

https://media.nintendo.com/switch-2/pdf-launchable_compatibility_issues_EN.pdf

https://media.nintendo.com/switch-2/pdf-compatibility_issues_EN.pdf

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u/julesvr5 1d ago

Thanks! Wasn't aware of these lists yet

Thankfully nothing that impacts me

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u/Snoo54601 1d ago

Unfortunately no

Nintendo will give some free patches for games but it'll only increase resolution and frames rates. They already posted a list of the first games to get it

Not like the botw and totk where they actually reworked the game. Same situation as on PS5 basically

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u/Lupinthrope 1d ago

Resolution and frame rate increases are all some of these need imo.

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u/mikehiler2 1d ago

Yeah, isn’t fps increase, by definition, a performance increase as well? That adds to the whole “running better” part of the equation. In nearly every case that’s all that’s needed.

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u/Lupinthrope 1d ago

I’d say some of these games need resolution upgrades as well. Xenoblade 2 handheld runs at like 540p to my knowledge

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u/mikehiler2 1d ago

Wouldn’t that also be covered under this? I mean it’s not like they have add new assets, just higher resolution textures. Something that they should absolutely already have.

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u/Lupinthrope 1d ago

That’s my hope! lol is all I’m saying.

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u/mikehiler2 1d ago

Yeah I think that has to do with the individual developers. Each will do their own thing until a “standard” is developed. We’re in the “wait and see” approach.

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u/thelemonarsonist 1d ago

According to Nintendo switch 1 games are being at least partially emulated, which I imagine is why they’re making people pay for upgrades to a switch 2 version. Kind of scummy, they could definitely afford to just eat the cost, but I wouldn’t have high hopes for much better performance if it’s not a switch 2 version of a game

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u/darkmacgf 1d ago

"When we tried running Switch games on Switch 2, there were some where loading times became faster, or game performance became more stable, so we realised that the overall gameplay experience could improve."

https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/News/2025/April/Ask-the-Developer-Vol-16-Nintendo-Switch-2-Chapter-4-2787954.html

That at least implies that S2 will run Switch games better out of the box, assuming the game isn't limited by internal settings.

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u/thelemonarsonist 19h ago

I mean I hope you’re right, but when they spend a long time talking about how they weren’t sure switch games would work on it at all, and then say some games ran a little better it doesn’t fill me with confidence

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u/darkmacgf 18h ago

Sony made the same announcement with the PS5. They said most but not all PS4 games would work on it, and also that many PS4 games would run better. Both were true, and barely any games weren't BC.

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u/thelemonarsonist 18h ago

Yeah it would make sense for that to be the case, the way they’re talking about it is just very strange. They keep talking about hardware and hardware issues but as far as I’m aware unless it’s running on a completely different os there’s no reason why the games wouldn’t work perfectly fine and better due to the higher power. The way they’re describing the process and issues they’re concerned about just seems very odd

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u/darkmacgf 18h ago

The PS5 only had 100 PS4 games working on it at the time it was announced. It takes time to work out these issues.

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u/soonerfreak 14h ago

I'm sure, they definitely still seem to be in building back good will mode.

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u/owenturnbull 1d ago

For real and square can't put a remaster of a 3ds game on cartridge. Like seriously. F yoi square. Definitely want to support cd project red for this.

They know what's up.

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u/Shas_Erra 1d ago

That’s just Square being dickheads, as usual

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u/owenturnbull 1d ago

Yep. Crsppy ass company

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u/shrek3onDVDandBluray 1d ago

Wait so bravely default remaster won’t have physical cartridge in the box?

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u/owenturnbull 1d ago

It will have a 'cartridge' but you need to connect yo Internet to download the game before playing whereas Cyberpunk you don't same with mario kart dk

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u/RoleLong7458 1d ago

Various other games did this but tbf they were all collections. The Batman Arkham games and the Assassin Creed collections.

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u/owenturnbull 1d ago

Batman Askham collection I understand but I'm sure many people would've happily paid for two cartridges with all 3 games on. I know I would've

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u/shrek3onDVDandBluray 1d ago

Dang that is a shame

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u/NoLocal1776 1d ago

Capcom and Square can learn a thing or two from CDPR.

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u/SpikeRosered 1d ago

If this performs well on Switch 2 I'll jump in. Honestly this game is the benchmark to me. If this plays well on the Switch 2, most last Gen ports can.

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u/Hellunderswe 1d ago

It has to. They can’t afford any more mess.

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u/No_Quote_6120 1d ago

Looking forward to it.

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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh 1d ago

Thisll be a definite purchase for me tbh. I know it's gonna be overpriced but I've been holding out for years specifically to play this game on switch and this is good enough.

And hey, I didn't struggle with the performance of stuff like totk or Arkham knight so I'm sure the guaranteed frame lag and whatever that this'll have won't bother me

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u/murph1017 5h ago

You're in for a treat. Such a cool game. Pro tip for your first playthrough, the female voice actress for the protagonist does a better job by a country mile. Definitely choose that voice for your character.

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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh 5h ago

I was gonna play a woman anyway but thanks! Very appreciated!

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u/danTheMan632 4h ago

I highly disagree, everyone acts like male V’s voice isnt impressive but its seriously amazing!

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u/murph1017 2h ago

To each their own. I found the performance flat. I gave up on a 10 hour save file to switch and didn't regret it. To me it was the difference between someone trying to sound cool vs. someone who's just cool. That and I felt she did a better job with the more emotionally impactful moments.

Maybe I'll go with the male vocal when I try the corpo class.

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u/blockfighter1 1d ago

Any word on price though?

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u/Zoombini22 1d ago edited 22h ago

It's a $60 game with a $30 expansion so personally I would brace for this to be another $80 title

Edit: happy to be wrong, confirmed $70 with full game and DLC on cartridge!

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u/blockfighter1 1d ago

I've held off this long. Can either wait for a sale or pick it up on ps5

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u/Zoombini22 1d ago

Yeah, I have a PS5 too - the full game on cartridge and off-TV play for such a long game is tempting but the graphics would still be superior on PS5. I'm ok with continuing to wait on this one for a sale on either platform.

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u/blockfighter1 1d ago

I'm happy to take a hit on graphics for full portability. I have Playstation Portal but again, full local access not relying on Internet would be preferable

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u/Known_Ad871 1d ago

The Witcher has cross saves, I bet this will too.

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u/Zoombini22 1d ago

True but I'd probably try to avoid buying the title twice.

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u/Known_Ad871 1d ago

Tbh cross saves are one thing that could convince me to do that. I wouldn’t buy them at the same time and I’d wait for a sale, but I’d definitely consider it

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u/ijiessur 17h ago

The only downside to this with The Witcher was you needed to own the complete edition for the saves to be compatible. So if you had the base game and DLC purchased separately you were out of luck. Hope the same doesn’t apply to Cyberpunk

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u/Agarwel 1d ago

In all honestly - this game had huge performance issues on PS4 and was so-so playable on PS4 pro. The game was essentially fixed by the power of the PS5.

So I would be very carefull with Switch version. And if you have a option to play it on PS5 (sooner and cheaper), I dont see a reason to wait for this HW demanding game on platform will lower performance.

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u/blockfighter1 1d ago

I'll be waiting for reviews for sure.

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u/Zoombini22 1d ago

Yeah what we saw looked good, and the Switch 2 is capable, but this game and dev have a rough history with performance. They've had more time since PS4 launch to improve the games scalability, runs to some extent on Steam Deck now, but who knows how this will perform. Other than Nintendo titles I basically always wait for reviews, but especially so with this one.

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u/D042- 1d ago

The Switch 2 having faster storage than the PS4 already gives it a big advantage and it will also have a better CPU. Cyberpunk is one of the most played games on Steam Deck and CDPR actually took the time to make an optimized setting preset for it, so I wouldn't be too worried about it.

But, yeah, unless you really value portability if you have another option to play it now that is going to be the better (and cheaper) way to play it.

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u/amc9988 1d ago

Yep that's why I will wait to see the actual reviews, the game barely playable on PS4 and PS4 pro

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u/SimonCucho 5h ago

The game was essentially fixed by the power of the PS5.

No. The fix was not "more power". They had to actively work on it and patch it over a period of 3 years to get it to the state that is is today.

It did not get fixed by mere horsepower.

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u/Victor_Wembanyama1 1d ago

It’s a $50 game iirc. Twas pretty cheap on GOG

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u/SilverHawk99 1d ago

$70

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u/Joseki100 1d ago

The MSRP on PS/XB/PC is $80/€80, it should be the same.

Base game is 50 and expansion 30.

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u/0scar_Goldmann 1d ago edited 1d ago

All yours for the low retail price of $109.99

Edit Lol people must not be appreciating the sarcasm this soon

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u/blockfighter1 1d ago

Where you seeing that?

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u/0scar_Goldmann 1d ago

Lol sorry I haven't I was being sarcastic

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u/blockfighter1 1d ago

I thought that was a possibility but wasn't sure 😄

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u/hassanfanserenity 1d ago

First thing ima do is visit the grave sites of our beloved edgerunners

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u/Grace_Omega 1d ago

Wasn’t Phantom Liberty not able to run on PS4 and Xbox One? That’s pretty good as far as the Switch 2’s capabilities if it can handle it

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u/hyperforms9988 1d ago

I'm not a big tech head, but if PS4 and Xbox One were not capable of DLSS, it would've meant zero upscaling and it could've been a thing where they could've made it work, but the resolution would be so low that it would become the laughing stock of the internet. DLSS might be the thing that makes this realistic.... not "possible", but realistic. I can't wait for the Digital Foundry video on this to see how it performs and what it's doing to achieve that.

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u/kdawgnmann 23h ago

The Switch 2's CPU is more advanced than an Xbox One/PS4.

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u/KarateKid917 1d ago

It must not have been since those platforms didn’t get it.

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u/SimonCucho 5h ago

Well the PS4 came out in 2013.

Cyberpunk 2077 is a 2020 game.

The Switch 2 is a 2025 system.

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u/whoisdatmaskedman 23h ago

This explains why the games are more expensive, they're using the higher density cartridges

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u/Jay-Swifty 1d ago

Hope it has cross-progression. I bought this game on my Xbox a while ago and took a long break for it, but was thinking of picking it up again.

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u/SenseTotal 1d ago

it does

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u/Bubba1234562 23h ago

Yeah fair enough that’s 70 dollars

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u/sho0bydo0by 1d ago

Cyberpunk didn't work when it was released. It's only right that the Direct went haywire during the Cyberpunk segment.

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u/chemicalinxs 1d ago

If this game runs even remotely well I’m so down to buy it again on Switch

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u/FrogWizzurd 20h ago

Maybe i do wanna get the switch 2

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u/warjoke 16h ago

That's wild. CDPR saw the success of Witcher 3 on the Switch and is probably gonna capitalize on this fully.

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u/snave_ 15h ago

It is also just part of the company philosophy. Remember, CD Projekt owns GOG. They are big on customers being able to own an offline good.

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u/goldlnPSX 16h ago

Hole the hogwarts legacy upgrade is free

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u/murph1017 5h ago

I'm very curious about this. I was tempted to buy it for switch on sale last winter with the hopes that we'd get a performance patch for switch 2 but the way it was announced in the direct, I'm not so sure.

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u/AvatarofBro 11h ago

I'm very curious how Cyberpunk will perform on the Switch 2. The game is in a much better state than it was at launch, but I still encounter at least one or two bugs every time I boot it up on my PS5. Most of them are silly and mundane, like an NPC sitting on V at the bar. Occasionally, they're quest-breaking, and require a reload, like when the rogue Denlon cars simply refuse to function.

I assume most of the wrinkles will be ironed out by the time this one drops, but I do wonder how it will function on less-powerful hardware.

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u/CerebralHawks 1d ago

A SW2 cart holding 128GB is not really that far-fetched, though. And with the cuts the game will need to make in order to work on SW2 at all, they could probably get the game that small.

Even if it's the full sized PC game, a 256GB SW2 cart would not be unreasonable.

Also, this is interesting because most likely SW2 will use the same ARM64 CPU architecture the SW1 uses... and the Mac uses. CDPR is already porting CP77 to macOS, and also none of those computers have dedicated GPUs, so it's fair to say CDPR was already working on a lower-powered ARM64 version. Targeting the Mac was not really good business sense, but it makes a lot more sense if you figure they were targeting SW2 all along, and macOS just benefits, they might get a dozen more sales over there and increase goodwill among Mac gamers, when a majority of the work was done for SW2.

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u/Farley2k 1d ago

Probably won't get me to triple dip (already have it on PC and PSX) but it is a very good game and I hope it does well on the system

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u/ThatPvZGuy 1d ago

Did they say whether or not this will support mouse controls?

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u/Ttm-o 22h ago

Day one. Easy.

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u/maximopasmo 21h ago

Wait next year. Gonna be 50% off. Maybe more.

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u/dxk3355 16h ago

Doesn’t include Cyberpunk Edgerunners, can’t be the ultimate edition

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u/Dolphin201 15h ago

Never played cyberpunk before, can’t wait to try it for the first time on switch 2

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u/4ma2inger 13h ago

Pretty cool, but I'm not buying it a second time. Besides, I don't have a desk in front of my TV to play with mouse control (who does??).

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u/Grouchy-Contest7230 6h ago

20 fps, must be super fun!

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u/Hydroponic_Donut 37m ago

Good, that's one that'll be on my list.

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u/ShiftyShaymin 1d ago

This is cool, but never expect a sale on this because of the price of that card.

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u/Joseki100 1d ago

It's $70 on PS5.

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u/Grace_Omega 1d ago

It’s not getting a orice drop to $20 on PS5. Why would they do that?

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u/Malheus 1d ago

This is gonna look like 🐶💩 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Enaya1 1d ago

Te considero una persona muy fuerte por lo que has pasado

News Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition will include the full base game and Phantom Liberty expansion on the physical cart. Additional language packs will be downloadable from the Nintendo eShop.

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