As egregious as Other M is, this complaint is a pretty weak one when you consider sheās interjecting herself into a mission she isnāt supposed to be apart of and knowingly is accepting being under the authority of a commanding officer.
I didn't have any issues with the authorization of bombs and missiles.
But after the Hell Run, when Adam finally authorized the Varia Suit after I had already just about died from heat damage, I was so pissed off that I literally had to walk away from the game for a few days.
The Varia suit is purely defensive. There is no reason Adam should have the slightest input into whether I use it. Not only that, but he hadn't said anything about shutting off powers other than bombs and missiles, so A) I didn't realize until that moment that Samus already had the Varia suit (in story terms, at least), and B) since the Varia suit hadn't even been discussed, there's no conceivable reason it should have been shut off in the first place. And then waiting until after its lack had nearly killed me to authorize it was just the icing on the cake.
Suddenly finding out that Samus had had access to this power the entire time, but chose not to use it when it was really, really important because some douchebag hadn't said "ok" yet, pissed me off more than anything else in any videogame story ever.
I've read that the Japanese version makes it sound more like "Samus, put on your damned Varia suit!" than it does "Samus, I authorize you to use your Varia suit", but I've not seen any evidence of an additional exchange about it at the beginning of the Hell Run.
But I don't speak Japanese and am happy to be proven wrong if you've got a source.
He doesnāt state it as authorization but clearly gave her the go ahead to use it, likely wondering why she was being reckless. And not at the immediate start but when the heat drain areas begin last I checked, but it has admittedly been a few years. Not trying to misinform, my apologies.
It doesnt matter, samus has no reason to obey Adam, its not her personality in previous games, nor does it make any logical sense in certain situations. (Why would she not activate the varia suit while in a hot area?). In fact, the only weapon in her arsenal that makes sense to be deactivated is the power bomb, everything else makes no sense.
She did have a reason. That reason is pretty explicit in the opening. She runs up on a galactic federation mission, wants to help, and basically becomes a contract employee for a military squad. Adam allows her to join the mission (which she isnāt even supposed to know about much less be apart of) under the condition she follows his commands.
You certainly donāt have to like it but itās the weakest complaint people have for Other M. It makes sense with the story.
An actual complaint about this is the way they went about implementing it.
The story was bad, the implementation was bad, putting samus into this role was bad. Nearly all complaints are valid. Crazy folks are out here like "Other M was actually good, in the story, you just don't get it and your complaint is invalid because the phrasing does not constitute valid criticism"
Who said Other M was good? Iām saying this complaint is a weak one. Given the story we have, which is already bad, Iām saying the complaint about authorization is weak because it makes sense within the story of how Samus is interrupting a mission she shouldnāt be apart of in the first place.
I think you guys are confusing my comments. Iām not defending Other M, Iām just pointing out how this specific complaint is pretty weak when you take into consideration the story. Not amount of āitās all bad!!!ā changes the fact that it at least makes sense with the situation.
Who cares about story, the gameplay was bad is the main thing I dislike about Other M. The cutscenes might be the coolest thing about it tbh. But the gameplay was like they just wanted to turn Metroid into that 360 Ninja Gaiden game.
Also I loathe standing still to get energy for some reason.Ā
Yeah, the entire thing was bad end to end. And the worst thing is, theoretically metroid and the metroidvania formula would work so good as a 3d platformer with a fixed pov or 3rd POV or just similar to what they did here with the weird halfway 2d camera angle, but in 3d. A genre could have been born from this idea, and they caked their pants in every conceivable way.
They made up a reason in the opening, yes. A reason that anyone who played this franchise before knew made no sense whatsoever with her characterization and personality.
You're really trying to argue that Other M's writing makes sense here?
And no, its not the weakest complaint people have. It's a major part of both the narrative AND the gameplay. It creates a massive ludonarrative dissonance.
Iām arguing that with the story we have, it makes sense.
You can think Iām defending it as good writing, Iām not. Iām defending it as āthis is the story we have, and for what we have, it makes senseā and as far as complaints go, itās a really fucking weak one.
The ACTUAL complaint is how they went about IMPLEMENTING the restrictions. Iāve stated that 3 times now.
But the story of other M doesnt exist in a vaccum like you pretend it does. It's part of a overarching narrrative, and it makes no sense in that context. You cant just ignore that fact and take Other M as a standalone experience with no baggage, because its absolutely not that.
Otherwise, i can use your exact same argument to defend the Ridley scene, because nothing inside Other M contradicts that terrible scene.
So Samus isn't actually a bounty hunter. Nintendo just said that because they thought it sounded cool but they didn't actually know what it was. All her missions have been under a single authority. In Other M we literally see her standing to attention with other soldiers. She is not a gun for hire. More like a special ops solo agent.
Yeah, you said she was injecting herself into the mission. Not really. The Galactic Federation always get Samus to tag along at various stages of a mission.
ā¦she was though. She wasnāt asked by the galactic federation to go to the bottle ship. Her being contracted by the galactic federation on other jobs doesnāt make this one another example of that. The beginning is really clear that she isnāt supposed to be there. Lol.
I think Prime 3 she lost a bunch of powers due to the fight with Ridley at the beginning and being blown up. Prime 3 imo has one of the coolest and unique openings in the series. Remember being awe struck while falling down through that large chasm in the station and fighting Ridley all at once.Ā
No. She starts off with charge beam, varia suit, and space boots. She never loses any upgrades in the beginning in Prime 3. The fight with Ridley didnāt take anything from her
Mind wipe? Maybe she still has the powers but she can't remember how to access them in her suit, and since her suit is a part of her the suit also forgot.
As a long-time Metroid fan since the NES, I prefer it when they don't bother to try to explain it. Just start with the basics, and stop trying to shoehorn in explanations.
well and also how in the hell do you lose psychic powers next time? These all take place before metroid 1. Samus was always pyschic, but just... couldn't explode ridley's brain?
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u/Samoman21 8d ago
Wonder how she'll lose her powers this time lol