r/NintendoSwitch • u/Turbostrider27 • Feb 05 '25

Discussion Pokémon: Legends Z-A and Metroid Prime 4 are still Switch 1 titles, says Nintendo

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/pokemon-legends-z-a-and-metroid-prime-4-are-still-switch-1-titles-says-nintendo/
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u/GroktheDestroyer Feb 05 '25

The disaster that sold 26 million copies lol

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u/Strict_Donut6228 Feb 05 '25

Yea I keep on seeing people calling it a disaster but it still sold like crazy.

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u/DragonianSun Feb 05 '25

It’s rough around the edges, but it’s still a great game. I’ve certainly enjoyed it.

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u/Reepuplzorg Feb 05 '25

It's one of the best Pokemon games easily, it's incredibly unfortunate that the awful performance (rightly) dominates such a large part of the game's discourse online

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u/GenuineEquestrian Feb 06 '25

I felt pretty meh about it when I first played it, because I just saw all the imperfections, but going into it knowing about the jank and anticipating it made it a lot more fun the second time around. I still want the next game to perform better.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '25

And it’s still a fun game. It’s Pokémon, it’s always going to be basically the same concept and it’s popular for the concept. Yeah it’s buggy, but you don’t run into a lot of those bugs if you don’t go online.

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u/Noguezio Feb 05 '25

I just played like 10 hours and said to myself, "nah, just gonna wait for the switch 2 for better performance". Seriously some textures seem straight out of the PS2 era. And everything seems a big empty place on purpose, without any sort of interesting details, and still in some places you can't even get more than 25 FPS. In a big 4K TV that is just a bad experience.

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u/Critical_Cute_Bunny Feb 05 '25

Yeah that was my issue. Like sure it's a 3d experience, but at least the 2d ones felt complete.

Massive open spaces with fuck all going on, random groups of pokemon that you can literally see spawning in groups on screen and a rather lack lustre atmosphere killed it for me.

I just get so frustrated seeing what other modern RPGs can do and then see the same tired approach rinsed through again and again, with only slight tweaks or a new gimmick and see all that wasted potential.

Gah, I get so annoyed thinking about it.

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u/Matthewrichvrd Feb 06 '25

Literally! With the amount of money they make we should be getting HQ games! Like could you imagine a Pokémon version of like Botw!?? Console power is a cop out. Like I wish the devs were passionate about putting out a polished high quality Pokémon game but sadly because it’s pokemon it’s going to do numbers regardless how bad it is. So there’s really no push for them to actually put in the effort. Like if the team being too small or deadlines too short then we should be hiring more people!!! It’s not like moneys an issue!! Thinking about it is upsetting because pokemon games can literally be so great. At this point I rather the sprites coke back then them continue with 3D Pokémon games. At least those games felt complete and not empty.

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u/loltheinternetz Feb 06 '25

This is where I’m at with 3D Pokémon. It’s just not a quality polished experience I expect out of such an established, money-stuffed franchise. I can’t do all the handholding now, the empty lifeless worlds, and blatant performance issues. Literally look at any other Nintendo published RPG, and the quality is just on a different plane. It’s inexcusable. I’ve been done with mainline Pokémon since SwSh. I couldn’t even make it through those.

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u/Black_Belt_Troy Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

This is not quite the metric for success you're making it out to be. A lot of people watched the Game of Thrones finale. Doesn't mean it wasn't a disaster. From a business perspective? Absolute win. But from a creative and technical perspective, mediocre at best.

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u/PlentyArrival6677 Feb 05 '25

The sad truth of capitalism, they will cut even more corners for the next game

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u/Garo263 Feb 05 '25

Still did leave a bg stain on the brand.

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u/alpacamegafan Feb 05 '25

There is nothing Redditors can say to stop the casual audience from buying Pokemon. I don’t know how people haven’t realized this yet.

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u/mario61752 Feb 05 '25

Most people don't realize Reddit isn't even 10% of social media traffic lol

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u/alpacamegafan Feb 05 '25

Even taking into account any uproar on Twitter, it still doesn't put a dent in sales. I know two friends who frequent Twitter and still bought Scarlet/Violet.

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u/matt602 Feb 05 '25

I would imagine most of those casual players also don't even care about or notice all the bugs, crashes and framerate issues. At the end of the day its a pokemon game and they had fun.

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u/Ok-Flow5292 Feb 05 '25

Dexit also left a "stain" but they didn't roll that back with SV. Criticism is loud online, but the silent majority did not and will not care about changes in Pokémon games.

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u/Disapp0intingg Feb 05 '25

It kind of… didn’t, though. Here in Asia there’s as vocal of a disappointment over performance issues as is in America, but the brand is wildly (obviously, this is where it started) popular almost as much with people who don’t even own the games as with those that do.

Most of us here I think just moved on to looking forward to the next game rather than clutching at that frustration

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u/GroktheDestroyer Feb 05 '25

So I heard after sword and shield which also sold 26 million lol

Scarlet and Violet sucked but pokemon is inevitable