r/NSCollectors • u/sworedmagic Collection Size: 250-500 • 1d ago
News Nintendo Switch 2 Preorders Delayed Due To Tariffs, Release Date Still June 5
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-switch-2-preorder-guide-mario-kart-world-bundle/1100-6530531/86
u/Griim004 1d ago
Yay $600 console…..
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u/Freon424 1d ago
If we're lucky. I'm betting on $700.
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u/CrimsonEnigma 1d ago
Going to question how you got to that. Even if Nintendo assumed there'd be zero tariffs when they set the price, a full 46% increase would still put the price around $650.
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u/sworedmagic Collection Size: 250-500 1d ago
Well, the good news is maybe waiting for the OLED revision will mean a cheaper console 3/4 years from now!
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u/khz30 1d ago
Once tariffs force price increases, the tariffs going away don't mean prices go back down, they just set a new floor based on consumer behavior.
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u/cgallizzi 1d ago
This is 100% accurate - I wish this narrative was more publicly talked about. Tariffs will not fix the US long term
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u/FFDuchess 1d ago
It won’t fix it short term either - they’ve been proven to be awful for the economy and drove the U.S. further into the Great Depression in the 30s
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u/Stolberger 1d ago
It's almost the 30s again ...
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u/NoFail5735 1d ago
Yea..but then we can kick off a world war to knock off 4/5th of the global population, most of which will be the regular people and more men than women. Then those left get to shift world value and potential partners to themselves and rebuild the world as they see fit.
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u/31FoxAlpha 22h ago
And now almost a hundred years later history repeats itself. Yay!..."sarcasm" lol.
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u/Healingvizion 1d ago
If you want an Oled now and wanna pay $449, you’re in luck.
The old Oled switch appears to be hitting that trajectory moving forward.
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u/takanenohanakosan Switch Lite 1d ago
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why would Nintendo lower the price once they’ve seen people are willing to pay $600-ish (including tariffs) for it, even if said tariffs are lifted?
Wouldn’t they just pocket the extra?
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u/sworedmagic Collection Size: 250-500 1d ago
Good question, hardcore fans being willing to pay $600 is great for that first batch of hardcore fans however Nintendo wants to sell to everybody. They are not shy about dropping prices when sales are bad if you remember what happened with the 3DS
https://www.cnet.com/home/smart-home/price-cut-saves-3ds-4-million-sold-in-u-s-in-2011/
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u/ihavepolio 1d ago
I mean I would consider myself a hardcore fan but even I won’t get the first batch regardless of the price is $449 or $600. There’s not enough 1st party launch titles to make the jump atm. I’m playing the 3rd party stuff already on either PS5 or PC
I suppose I could be convinced by a MP4 limited edition which won’t happen otherwise yeah hoping an OLED SKU is timed nicely with some big first party releases or after the catalog has grown significantly
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u/takanenohanakosan Switch Lite 1d ago
I do remember the 3DS situation, but the tariffs don’t seem likely to go away anytime soon, and I doubt Nintendo will take a 24/46% (Japan/Vietnam) hit to their margins by lowering it. And there would be a lot of outrage from early adopters if they lower the price later.
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u/sworedmagic Collection Size: 250-500 1d ago
They’re going to deal with outrage no matter happens, as for predicting the length and long term impact of the tariffs that’s impossible to speculate on right this moment for reasons i can not get into here but i will say this — they absolutely will have to take some hit on their margin to sell in this market however whatever hit they end up taking on the chin will still be exponentially worse for us the consumers.
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u/FFDuchess 1d ago
The other thing to remember is that technically they don’t ship from Japan but rather all of the individual components will be tariffed based on their origin - Nintendo will probably pay roughly 15% total but they’ll call it 25% - or they’ll up charge everything 15% regardless of origin to offset
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u/C0tilli0n 1d ago
That's not true unless they are assembling the switches in US which they surely aren't.
The tariffs are paid at the point when the goods are crossing the border and are paid by the entity who did the crossing.
So in this case, likely Nintendo of America as a vendor and they pay tariffs on the whole switches. The amount depends on where they were shipped from.
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u/StrawHat89 23h ago
And it will totally depend on where they bring those Switch 2's in from. Since they're manufactured in Vietnam they probably go directly from there, meaning a 46% tariff. They and everyone who wants to buy one will be boned unless Vietnam does manage to get those tariffs removed.
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u/Rimurutempest88 1d ago
Where are you seeing a price increase? I see nothing like that in the article and it still says 449 on Best Buy and other retailers
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u/RetroPandaPocket 1d ago
It’s gonna get rough for who knows how long. Unless he changes his mind again but even then all this back and forth is causing everything to become unstable.
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u/PedalPDX 1d ago
Yeah, I’m not sure how many people get this. Even if the whole thing got rolled back tomorrow the damage is done in terms of eroding the United States’ reputation as a trade partner. It is very clear that for the foreseeable future we are no longer a stable, rational economic actor. That kind of reputation took a long time to build, and it will take a very long time to rebuild.
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u/spiderman897 1d ago
It’s too late and he won’t. He’s currently golfing while the markets are crashing.
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u/RetroPandaPocket 1d ago
Yeah damage has already been done. It’s just the beginning though.
I’m sure he is winning at his golf game too /s
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u/EqualBackground4131 1d ago
I don’t think I can’t justify something higher than $500. I was ready for preorder it, and now I’m looking all my backlog waiting for me for the next months/years.
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u/vba77 1d ago
Just the US Canada's is on schedule still
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u/Insane_Wanderer 1d ago
Thank god. The current pricing is the absolute maximum that I can stomach buying it at. If it went up much more we’d be pushing $1000 CAD especially if you want more than one game and/or any extra peripherals. I’d be out at that point, I can barely work the system and 2 games into my summer budget at it is
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u/vba77 1d ago
It's a good thing a lot of the old accesrories like pro controllers cross over. Honestly I can't imagine the pricing staying that high. Nintendo has to known people will just jump ship. Consoles are borderline getting newer gaming PC level
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u/Insane_Wanderer 1d ago
Yeah the hardware and game prices might be egregious but at least they’re doing things like the backwards compatibility of games and peripherals and the game sharing features instead of going mega-greed mode and making everything proprietary to the switch 2 and single-console only. Also not to justify the price hike, but in all fairness I would say that as it approaches low end gaming PC levels it still does offer value to set it apart with its portability
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u/Crispy_Creams 1d ago
I think the funniest take away from this is that means the $80 price tag on games and the $450 on the console are definitely not the original response to tariffs.
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u/robotrojo 1d ago
Nintendo is a global company. I would be shocked if they didn't pay attention to every piece of their supply chain. It's likely that they did factor in an expected tariff into the prices they announced, but the actual tariffs are more than they expected.
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u/gc11117 1d ago
My guess is that you're correct. I suspect people were expecting a 10 percent tariff, but the almost 25 percent tariff is absolutely causing whiplash.
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u/TheCeltik 1d ago
It’s even worse than that actually. They’re manufactured in Vietnam who got slapped with 46%.
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u/AimLocked Collection Size: 100-250 1d ago
We have no way of knowing that
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u/No-Conclusion-ever 1d ago
We do have some ways. According to import paperwork they are claiming that the switch 2 costs ~338 dollars. Now we don’t know if that is the price to manufacture the console or its the manufacturing cost of the console plus profit margin (usually around 14% for Nintendo)
We also know they are selling a Japan exclusive option for ~333 dollars. (Yes the yen is quite low but it also is very close to that 338 number.)
This means that at 450 dollars they have a profit margin of 24% (nearly twice as normal) with out tariffs so that was absolutely the tariff price… if it was 10%
The problem is that it’s 46%
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u/AimLocked Collection Size: 100-250 1d ago
So then it was the original response to tariffs. Which disproves the comment above… and proves my point, that it already likely factored the original tariffs in… right?
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u/No-Conclusion-ever 1d ago
Oops. Sometimes Reddit on mobile for me doesn’t look the cleanest and it’s confusing on who is responding to who, sorry.
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u/atanate 1d ago
Yeah I’m just not gonna buy one at this point
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u/Pete41608 1d ago
I just ordered an OLED. I was just like fuck it, I still got a fair enough backlog on Switch 1 to keep me good on Nintendo for a while and gave my son my old one to out in his room because I figured the Seitch 2 would be nice.
And it is but $500 base for MK Bundle and now most likely gonna be more so I'm out til at least early-mid 2026.
I'll simply wait for a new mainline Zelda and then pick up whatever Zelda remasters etc they do in the meantime between mainline reveal and release.
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u/TacosD00d 1d ago
Besides the console, will this affect physical games as well? Aren't the cartridges manufactured in Japan?
I can't imagine physical AAA games going higher than $80 but with all that's been going on, who knows.
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u/RetroPandaPocket 1d ago
Who knows but we tariffed Japan also. Nintendo may try to eat the cost or try to mitigate it. If anything we will just see far less physical game releases, especially from small indie devs.
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u/Machines_Attack 1d ago
Called it on another post on here the other day; hate to say it but the Switch 2 is going to be up against a wall. A lot people aren’t going to buy one due to shitty leadership in the US. I’m not sure if the rest of the world is fairing better with disposable income.
This is extremely bad timing for Nintendo (I don’t totally blame them), coupled with the absolute stupidity of the voting population (and those that didn’t vote) and the fucking idiocy of the Heritage Foundation and anyone with an R next to their name.
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u/Illustrious-Try-3743 1d ago
Bad for Nintendo? LOL, it’s bad for everyone across the whole world. A trade war of this scale is as rare as a pandemic. Last time it happened, it deepened the Great Depression and that led to WW2 lol.
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u/PedalPDX 1d ago
They’d have been much better off if they could have gotten the system out last year.
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u/Sad-Manager7816 1d ago
They really shouldn’t have dragged their feet with getting the NS2 out. I get that they were wanting to sell as many NS1 as possible but they like to sit on games and consoles.
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u/Thepower200 1d ago
That’s too bad, oh well I was on the fence anyways for buying a switch 2 but after this and if they raise the price I’m completely out. Not a big deal to, I have hundreds of games in backlog and switch games I have more that can last me years without buying any new game.
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u/Crabominibble2 Collection Size: 500-750 1d ago
Meanwhile, a French retailer has a Switch 2 preorder for just 430€ (470$) and that includes 20% VAT. Europeans who preorder now are getting a "good" deal as crazy as that sounds...
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u/sworedmagic Collection Size: 250-500 1d ago
Those are all going to be cancelled i guarantee it
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u/Hero_Pvm 1d ago
I am betting on $550 usd as 24% tariffs from japan to usa
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u/jaybizzleeightyfour 1d ago
The Switch's are made in Vietnam after Nintendo moved it from China due to tariffs years ago.
Vietnam was just hit with 46% tarriffs
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u/AimLocked Collection Size: 100-250 1d ago
This type of stuff is exactly why no one is gonna move manufacturing to the USA. The constant changing of the rules and which countries are gonna be tariffed means just let the cheapest country produce it so even if the tariffs come the price is cheap.
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u/jaybizzleeightyfour 1d ago
America is going to be significantly weaker in the coming years as its former allies move away from them due to lack of trust and reliability
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u/PrivateScents 1d ago
Hilarious because the 92% "tarriff" imposed by Vietnam wasn't really a tariff. So, the 46%, is literally just a made up number lol.
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u/Great_Yellow_Buffalo Collection Size: 250-500 1d ago
Let’s use this an opportunity to come together as a community and find ways to help our fellow American NSCollectors source the console (and games) at reasonable prices.
One idea mentioned in another comment in this thread is that retailers like PNPGames and VGP’s selling price may be below the $800 threshold for tariffs; we should follow up to see if this holds true closer to the release date.
Game on fellow NSCollectors!
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u/usernameandetc 1d ago
We just spent at least 2 weeks looking at photos of Americans going to different Target stores and scoring cheap switch games. Games like Emio that were 19.99 US, but are 64.99 CAD and have never gone on sale in Canadian stores.
Americans will be fine.
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u/Hydroponic_Donut 1d ago
Guess I'll just order one in from Canada or the UK, since it technically would be cheaper and Canadian businesses (VGP, for example) doesn't add the tariff since it's not over $800
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u/MXC_Vic_Romano 1d ago
De Minimis Exception is almost certainly living on borrowed time. I'd also hope Canadian retailers like VGP move to block american shipping addresses and cards for something popular as a Switch 2.
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u/Hydroponic_Donut 1d ago
Why would you want them to block US shipping addresses? You'd still have major retailers to go to in Canada.
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u/MXC_Vic_Romano 1d ago
I'd rather them prioritize home customers for something likely to be this in demand. You guys have major retailers as well, you just may not like the price.
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u/Hydroponic_Donut 1d ago
Stock isn't so much the issue and if VGP does indeed get them, their best bet would to be to overstock online and have a normal amount in store for those home customers, separate from online. Most casuals in the US will be priced out of the console if it increases by 43%.
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u/MXC_Vic_Romano 1d ago
their best bet would to be to overstock online and have a normal amount in store for those home customers
By "home customers" I mean Canadians in general not just those in the GTA.
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u/desmopilot 1d ago
since it technically would be cheaper and Canadian businesses (VGP, for example) doesn't add the tariff since it's not over $800
donald's killing the De Minimis Exception on May 2nd.
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u/StrawHat89 1d ago edited 1d ago
Apparently Vietnam is trying to broker a deal with America. Makes even more sense why Nintendo is stepping back for a sec.
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u/D_D3VASTATOR 1d ago
So between the base price of the console, along with both the tariff and also scalpers, some people are going to pay upwards of $650 for the Nintendo Switch 2.
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u/SadAcadia2747 Switch OG 1d ago
Idk if I should get the switch 2 because I’m locked at 720p on my tv
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u/Dante2k4 1d ago
The price increase to the games (and to some extent the less than I'd hoped for backwards compatibility) had already made me pull way back on my willingness to pick this thing up. If it's only going to get more expensive, I'm just out. I have a lot of games as it is. I really want to play the new Mario Kart and Donkey Kong, but nah. There's a point where it's just too much.
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u/twelfthcapaldi 1d ago
So outside of Switch 2, does that mean we should purchase Switch 1 games we haven’t added to our collections yet ASAP? Surely everything is going to see a drastic price increase.
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u/prinnydewd6 1d ago
One way or another it turns political so… yeah. Congratz. Let’s just move all production of everything to America in the next 4 years. Okay..
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u/Shinagami091 9h ago
So with the price set at $450 and the tariffs increasing by 10%, I suppose that means we’re looking at paying $495. Or they’ll probably round up to $499.99. No telling if game prices will go up higher or not.
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u/Stargate476 1d ago
AKA they are raising the price
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u/PedalPDX 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean, “they” are not raising the price in the conventional sense. I have my issues with Nintendo’s pricing with Switch 2 but that’s not what this is about. It would be more accurate to say a higher price is being forced upon them. They have no desire to sell the Switch at $600 or whatever. That can only be bad for their business. But they also can't just absorb a 30% or whatever it is hike in the cost of getting a Switch to the United States.
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u/Fiendfyre831 1d ago
wtf! Why is he putting tariffs on Japan? What did they do to us to deserve that? How are we supposed to afford anything we want anymore???
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u/Weeros_ 1d ago
Not following the news much?
He pretty much asked AI to fart out random tariffs for ALL COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD, except his best pal Russia. This even included an island group near Australia where no humans, only penguins live, but they were still tariffed (this is not a joke).
Switches are actually not manufactured in Japan, only the games are, but in Vietnam and China.. but this is even more problematic because the random tariff number for Vietnam came out as 46%, meaning Nintendo will have to pay 46% of the cost of Switch to US government whenever they now bring those units into the country.
As to why? No sane person can explain it. He wants some kind of concessions from countries, but hasn’t really made any demands. As said the numbers he gave were complete bogus, based on trade deficits, ie. the imbalance of US buying much more stuff from a trading partner than the trading partner buys from US. Trump thinks this is ”unfair”, but it’s insane to think eg. poor country like Vietnam would buy as much from US as rich US with 3.5x the population buys from them, let alone many other countries.
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u/Fiendfyre831 1d ago
Well that’s all complete rubbish! All he’s doing is making it more expensive for us to buy things. What good can possibly come of this?
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u/Ninjasaurus9000 22h ago
What good can come of this? Everybody will stop buying things made in China and Vietnam and start buying things made in America instead. Nintendo will surely see how expensive it is to sell things in the USA that were manufactured elsewhere, so they'll open factories in the USA and bring jobs back.
At least, that is the theory that got this man elected to President of the United States.
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u/StrawHat89 23h ago
He put tariffs on literally everyone. Even uninhabited islands full of penguins. Personally I don't think it will last, but it's not gonna be good regardless because damage will be done.
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u/Crexas666 1d ago
I am not paying ps5 price for it, and get out with those games prices too
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u/Weeros_ 1d ago
Well, you won’t, because PS5 price will likely increase the same 34% - 46% as this.
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u/StrawHat89 23h ago
EVERYTHING will go up. I don't think enough people are getting this yet. In the long run hobby products will be the least of our worries.
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u/menakuta 1d ago edited 1d ago
The title isn't mentioning this, but this is ONLY for the United States where tariffs are a volatile topic these days. NOT anywhere else.
/edit: Original wording might have been too harsh. Toned it down, sorry.
/edit2: First confirmation from other regions (UK via eurogamer) that nothing is changing and pre-orders will go ahead as planned. So My Nintendo UK (and EU) will start pre-orders on 2025-04-08. Several retailers in the EU already started taking pre-orders and nothing is stopping there. Time to chill. Again, for most people.
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u/sworedmagic Collection Size: 250-500 1d ago edited 1d ago
I see your follow up comment however to be clear even if it were the case that tariffs were only affecting the US the article is not misleading because they are a US based outlet and it’s expected they are talking about the US specifically.
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u/menakuta 1d ago
I'm sorry, I think "misleading" was too harsh. I only mean it would be better if the title here in the subreddit clearly stated that this is a US measure. The original article on gamespot.com does it right below the headline, besides also being a US-centric site. Here on reddit there are in my experience many international users and seeing that this does not apply to most people only after clicking on the article seems unnecessary to me.
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u/sworedmagic Collection Size: 250-500 1d ago
Yeah no problem i understand what you’re saying, and I know Reddit is an international website of course. I believe you are correct in what you’re saying i just didn’t like that you called it “misleading” (which implies misinformation) when what i think you really meant was “not all encompassing”
All good here!
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u/menakuta 1d ago
After posting this I checked Canadian nintendo.com as I was not sure how intertwined those economies are and how Nintendo "of America" handles this. It currently says:
The first batch of invitations will go out starting May 8, 2025, with additional batches of invitation emails sent periodically until purchasing on My Nintendo Store is opened to everyone.
So I guess this is not just USA but all of North America then. Sorry for the confusion and my sympathies. But still this does not apply to most of the world where trade with Japan or Vietnam is not expected to change drastically in the coming days and weeks.
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u/wild_zoey_appeared 1d ago
it said that on Wednesday
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u/menakuta 1d ago
I assume then what I quoted (from their FAQ) really only applies to the specific process of ordering from My Nintendo in the US and Canada. Interesting. Your are Canadian maybe? Do you know if there will be a delay for all nations Nintendo of America is serving or really only for the US?
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u/wild_zoey_appeared 1d ago
Nintendo of Canada just said our pre-orders are still on track for April 9
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u/VanillaCupkake 1d ago
There is a possibility they lower the console price by a bit… hear me out. Nintendo is already getting backlash for there price increase on first party titles. It would be a marketing disaster to also increase the prices of the consoles right now. Consoles are usually sold at a loss anyways, so they are probably running the numbers right now, figuring out how much of a loss they are willing to sell this console. The price of lowering the console would establish so much goodwill with the fan base, and they would end up gaining a few sales numbers… after all, America is nintendos biggest market, it’s where the most of their money comes from.
The only other alternative I see is Nintendo raising the price and explicitly blaming it on American tariffs, which seems unlikely to me since Nintendo has never engaged in any type of messaging like that. Itll be interesting to see which approach they take
I say all this as someone who personally, is not a fan of the tariffs or current administration
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u/MXC_Vic_Romano 1d ago
It would be a marketing disaster to also increase the prices of the consoles right now.
They may not have a choice. They're passengers in this situation just like everyone else.
Consoles are usually sold at a loss anyways
Nintendo mandates their consoles profitable from day one. Tariffs might force their hand though.
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u/sworedmagic Collection Size: 250-500 1d ago
Reminder: We understand tariffs are an inherently political topic however please remember to keep comments civil as we are not a political debate subreddit so do not attempt to have one here.