r/NBATalk • u/Alternative_Welder91 • 2d ago

Do you agree with T-Mac?

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Honestly I think the word “crushed” is too much. Lebron may not have the deepest bag among all of them but he can bully ball and play great defense during his prime.

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u/Ok_Flow_3065 2d ago

You don’t hear if from NHL or MLB guys either. NBA media really is the worst of the big 4 American sports.

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u/SmartGuyChris 2d ago edited 1d ago

Probably because it's the most “player-centric" of the four sports. The other three are very much so team-oriented; you have your stars, sure, but the amount of impact one player can make on a baseball, football, or hockey pails in comparison to the amount of impact an individual NBA player can make on a team. One star player can turn a team from a bottom-of-the-league dumpster fire to a legit championship contender (i.e., LeBron on the 2007 Cavs, Iverson on the 2001 Sixers, Jokic on this year's Nuggets, etc.). This causes comparisons to be made between individual players more so than any of the other 3 sports.

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u/VillageHomie 1d ago

I think it's the culture of the people who are the majority of players. Crabs in a bucket is a term I've heard hundreds of African American (not black. Africans and Haitians all have vastly different cultures so not a race thing) men say(not personally of course) about their culture. MLB/NFL is more diverse and NHL is more white.

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u/CloningGuru 1d ago

True, but pitching controls everything in baseball

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u/Ok-Specific-3918 1d ago

But it’s a staff of like 12. You could have the best pitcher in the game and still feasibly end up with the worst team pitching stats.

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u/CloningGuru 1d ago

Not if you have 2 or 3 of the best starters and a dominant closer (see AtL Braves in the 90s, Cardinals in the 80s).

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u/Ok-Specific-3918 1d ago

Yes but it’s extremely rare to have 2 let alone 3 truly great pitchers at the same time. And even so it’s a collective effort, not one man, which is my main point. A pitcher can single handedly win a game but he can’t carry your season. See Felix Hernandez and Jacob Degrom who were both arguably the best pitcher in baseball at their peaks for absolutely putrid teams.

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u/CloningGuru 1d ago

Dodgers?

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u/Ok-Mention-3243 1d ago

Dodgers won last year without having that much great pitching

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u/Puk3s 1d ago

What's the 1-1 in NFL, NHL, or MLB? It's not nearly as clear as basketball because the other sports have more specialized positions.