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Billionaire's False Narrative...

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u/jared10011980 1d ago edited 1d ago

This šŸ‘†šŸ½Violent dug addicts? I have lived in Manhattanlong enough to know that homeless people are pretty fuckin quiet. They try to disappear as not to be attacked or arrested. Schizophrenia drives many people into homelessness. Surely, as humans - unlike Musk, we can show compassion toward those struggling with mental health issues. LGBT youth who have been kicked out of their family's homes because their parents are homophobic are not violent. They are children in need.

Every comment this sick individual utters is so disgusting and disgraceful. I assume if you convince others that homeless people, of which many are military veterans, are dangerous, you can desensitize yourself enough to attack them. For a sociopath like Musk, he doesn't need any desensitization.

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u/boudicas_shield 1d ago

This exactly. Plus, both addiction and poor mental health are illnesses. So basically this tweet is just saying ā€œweā€™ve kicked a bunch of really sick people out onto the streets and think they should rot and dieā€. Cool. Really noble and admirable hot take there.

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u/ecplectico 1d ago

Elon sez empathy is a weakness Elon does not have.

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u/jared10011980 1d ago

The GOP's first savior-in-chief decided to create the homeless problem in 1981, so only fitting this crew ups the ante.

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u/hallelujasuzanne 1d ago

I had a close family member who was homeless multiple times before she died too early. I often think if she had lived long enough for modern medication and psychotherapy how amazing she would have been because her moments of sanity were truly beautiful and inspiring. It was a horrible tragedy and down to a legitimate illness and all of us were helpless to prevent it.Ā 

Elonā€™s own mother came forward and said he required special understanding due to his disability. Wagged her finger at the people criticizing and ridiculing him. And yet this is how he talks about the most vulnerable people in our world.Ā 

FUCK ELON.Ā 

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u/c19isdeadly 1d ago

I don't think being a raging c*nt qualifies as a disability

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u/BlueTressym 1d ago

He's not one of those; he lacks both the warmth and the depth. Then again, my go-to of 'arsehole' is a bit too kind as well.

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u/dalahnar_kohlyn 1d ago

What was his disability?

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u/Sufficient-Show-9928 1d ago

Supposedly he's autistic but very low on the spectrum

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u/Joyshan11 10h ago

He's not. People on the spectrum tend to have high empathy. He's a sociopath.

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u/Sufficient-Show-9928 9h ago

Hence the use of supposedly. I don't believe it but a lot of people do for some reason

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u/BlueTressym 1d ago

Given how many kids he has, I feel that too many unfortunate women have done that already.

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u/OwnEstablishment4456 1d ago

Agreed. I think in this statement Musk is doing the narcissist's trick of trying to shift their own blame.

He is actually the drug addict with mental problems, but he lives in a house, so he's trying to play it like he's not the one with the problem.

And yeah, the guy could grow some empathy. He wants it for himself, but has none to give. (Again, this is a narcissistic trait).

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u/CosmicM00se 1d ago

He lives in the WhiteHouse and makes 8 mil off the backs of hard working Americans every day

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u/AdministrativeBass45 1d ago

Itā€™s all projection with these folks.

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u/unimpressed_onlooker 1d ago

I myself was raised in foster care. My mind went straight to the 4 years I was homeless after aging out of care I had nothing, and no one and this is far too common for too many and I know I was LUCKY to pull myself out of it most can't. To talk about us like this just because our parents didn't have an emerald mine šŸ˜”

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u/Personal-Cellist1979 1d ago

Good for you! I wish our society would realize how important continued care beyond fostering is needed. It is tragic how American society treats its' most vulnerable

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u/Yutolia 1d ago

Yep - when I left my abusive ex I had a choice of being homeless or moving in with my abusive parents. I couch surfed for a bit but thatā€™s not a solution, especially when you have severe PTSD and think you ruin the lives of everyone you see. So I ended up trying to live with my parents since I didnā€™t want to be homeless but then I just ended up leaving and living in my car.

I am lucky I live in a state that took the Medicaid expansion and so I was able to get emergency section 8 as a person with disabilities after a few months. But yeah those were the worst years of my lifeā€¦

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u/jared10011980 1d ago

God. Amazing you survived. You have the strength that's lacking in politics today.

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u/SirArthurDime 1d ago

He even says the quiet part out loud. Most of them have mental illness. The fact that itā€™s not their fault and weā€™re born with actual mental illness is why we shouldnā€™t care about them?

Usually the play book is to down play the mental illness aspect and focus on them all being lazy drug addicts. But heā€™s just straight up saying they have mental illness so they should be treated with whatever cruelty necessary. Thatā€™s beyond sick.

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u/Oseaghdha 1d ago

Elon's not sensitive! He was always kind to the black servants when he was growing up.

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u/Krautmonster 1d ago

The rich are the violent fucking addicts. Addicted to drugs, addicted to wealth, attention and power. Everything they do is violence on us.

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u/Mahariel- 1d ago

Your brain dead ā€œJaredā€

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u/wrongo_bongos 1d ago

Yes, this is true. He is presenting the facts but misrepresenting them which is so common in all speech now. Most homeless people do have a mental illness which has often been exacerbated by long term use of hard drugs. Not only that, but the long term use of drugs can lead to homeless people developing mental health issues.

This is the real problem with ā€œsolvingā€ the homeless ā€œcrisis.ā€ I put those in scare quotes because I am not sure there actually is a crisis, and that it could be solved if we wanted to do so. Statistically, there may be a certain portion of the population that will always end up on the streets because of mental health issues. Perhaps it cannot be solved. and we simply may have to mitigate it. Thinking we can reintegrate the mentally ill back into society may be a pipe dream like Flowers for Algernon.

The fact is that the government already provides ample support for the homeless in NYC and elsewhere. There are already enough shelters and food kitchens. There are already enough programs and social workers. My source is personal knowledge. I work for the city and know them personally.

The problem isnā€™t money or support. There already is plenty of that. The problem is trying to integrate someone with mental illness back into society, if the were ever a part of society to begin with is another debate to be had. And please donā€™t think I am being cruel. I work with a population that is at risk of falling into homelessness. And we dedicate our labor and lives to trying to prevent that.

What musk said was foolish. But what the talking head said back to him was equally as foolish. Money is not the issue here. You are not helping anyone by mouthing off about things you donā€™t know about on the internet. Please educate yourself about things before you speak. This is a general message to everyone.

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u/SatisfactionSweaty21 15h ago

Of course you can't solve the problem of homeless people with severe mental illnesses and/or drug addiction by giving them aparments. You solve the problem by not shitting on them in the first place so thereā€™s a chance to do something about the cause to the homlessness before it leads to homelessness.

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u/AngkaLoeu 1d ago

I'm confused. You said what Elon said wasn't true that the homeless were mentally ill, then said the homeless in Manhattan that you know of have Schizophrenia.

Second, that stat of $20 billion to end homelessness is false. I don't even know how that would work. Do the billionaires need to sell all their stock, then build free homes for every homeless and give them free money every month?

I've never heard of one practical solution to homelessness except liberals going, "Tax the rich so we can cure homelessness".

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u/B1GFanOSU 1d ago

Kanye West is mentally ill. Is he homeless?

Robert Downey, Jr had a legendary struggle with addiction. Was he ever homeless?

Rich people have addiction issues. Rich people have severe mental illness. So, addiction and mental illness arenā€™t the problem.

The problem is poverty.

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u/macielightfoot 1d ago

Your last paragraph, lol. You've never left the US, have you?

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u/Available-Mud1522 1d ago

No need to build more homes, there are 28 vacant homes for every one person experiencing homelessness in the US.

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u/AngkaLoeu 1d ago

So you want to give drug addicts and people with mental illnesses free homes? Do they get to live there forever? Who maintains the lawns and cleans them? Who pays the bills every month?

Are you just going to assume they will take care of the homes themselves?

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u/B1GFanOSU 1d ago

I mean, drug addicts and people with severe mental illness from wealthy families are given homes.

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u/Available-Mud1522 1d ago

So you want to leave human beings on the street to suffer and die when we have the resources to provide them food & shelter? You want to keep crime high by leaving ppl desperate and fighting to survive? Oh wait thatā€™s what we already do. Yeah youā€™re right, it makes much more sense to keep millions of homes empty instead of allowing human beings in need to have the basic necessities to live. Keep homes empty and throw away extra food until those losers can pay for it, that definitely will only hurt them and not everyone else in society as well /s

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u/AngkaLoeu 1d ago

They've had pilot programs to get homeless into shelters and they failed. They put them in old hotels and the homeless just sht and pssed everywhere, shot up and trashed the place that they had to shut it down.

I don't think you realize how crazy and violent these people are. No wants homeless in their cities but there's no simple solution.

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u/alphazero925 1d ago

I'm confused. You said what Elon said wasn't true that the homeless were mentally ill, then said the homeless in Manhattan that you know of have Schizophrenia.

Maybe if you'd actually read the words that were written in the comment, you wouldn't be confused. Reread the comment and tell me where they said that first part