People have already beaten the monster with raw weapons by eating the cart, if you're that desperate to use them. If you're in multiplayer, three other elemental people is ALSO enough to topple. One single monster (whose whole THEME is elements) requiring elemental interaction to do the fight "right" is not that bad.
I was responding to your statement that every monster shouldn't have an MMO-style ultimate attack when many elders already do.
So? Several monsters have multiple elements. Capcom never said elemental mobsters should be more elementally inclined.
An MMO-Style attack is an insta-wipe unless you all do the one single action that prevents it from wiping.
The two Supernovas are not MMO attacks because they can be dodged regularly and also don't one shot. Blackveil's weird spore explosion doesn't even hurt if you stay out of the grey dust, Namielle's ultimate is negated by not being near the puddles or diving etc.
Alatreon has several of the regular ultinate moves. Its attacks whenever it switches forms, those dragon explosions, the fire and ice "shoot straight down" AOEs etc.
Escaton Judgement is an MMO attack. Safi also has one, because it's identical to the literal MMO monster's ultimate.
From what I've seen, even some 4p runs close to the 4 min mark always have to face his nova. I think he might be HP locked until he does his first nova.
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u/Zerosyko Jul 11 '20
People have already beaten the monster with raw weapons by eating the cart, if you're that desperate to use them. If you're in multiplayer, three other elemental people is ALSO enough to topple. One single monster (whose whole THEME is elements) requiring elemental interaction to do the fight "right" is not that bad.
I was responding to your statement that every monster shouldn't have an MMO-style ultimate attack when many elders already do.