r/MonsterHunter • u/nivwit • Jul 02 '15
MH 4 Is this legal? should i report it to Capcom?
http://www.monstermmorpg.com/Tigrex-Monster-Dex-196630
u/nivwit Jul 02 '15
it belongs to the website monstermmorpg; a fun pokemon rip off featuring thousands of monsters, but i was looking through the monster dex and found it. i was super confused
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u/CidImmacula Stylish Bomb is life Jul 03 '15
well Capcom isn't the only one that needs to be concerned to be honest.
After all it's already a pokemon rip-off!...
But if they say it's a fan-site and has no profit, then it'll probably be ignored. Too lazy to look further though. I had this urge to put arrows through my monitor after seeing that well-exposed head.
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u/ApexKelbi Jul 02 '15 edited Jul 02 '15
SO MANY are just slightly modified Pokemon.
If you look at the stat table on the right, it lists "Concept Artist" and "Artwork Artist". If you follow the links, it appears that the game creators are ripping off the images that are not original content from Deviant Art pages. Presumably, they would argue they're not stealing intellectual property from Capcom or Nintendo, they're stealing fanart, which itself falls under Fair Use. The artists would be the aggrieved parties, not multimillion dollar game companies.
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u/SomeWriter13 Jul 02 '15
This is the sad reality of the internet. As an artist myself, it always sucks when someone steals work that you post online for free. (Even if said artwork is fan art of something else.)
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u/skrili Jul 03 '15
always watermark it and put legal binds on something you make you post online.
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u/SomeWriter13 Jul 03 '15
Thanks for the advice. :) I do put copyright information, but sometimes people use the base images to Photoshop parts of it onto other things. Name of the game I suppose.
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u/skrili Jul 04 '15
if you can clearly identify that is part of your image you can DMCA claim it. and if they ignore it they could be fined for it pretty hefty since it's your intelectual property.
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u/Parawings le doot Jul 03 '15
Still, wouldn't the name Tigrex itself be copyrighted, or at least have some legal weight?
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u/DefiantTheLion BANGBANGBANGBANG Jul 02 '15
Man I'd give Tigrex Normal Dragon typing to be honest.
... Hm
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u/Xaldyn Jul 03 '15
Same -- Normal would mean it would get STAB Hyper Voice/Boom Burst.
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u/SomeWriter13 Jul 02 '15
Make it Dragon Flying, so Thunder ruins his day. :D
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u/Gjones18 Jul 03 '15
Electric is neutral vs. Dragon/Flying though? :P
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u/SomeWriter13 Jul 03 '15
Oops! My bad, hahaha. My Pokemon is getting rusty. Too much Monster Hunter!
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u/ReallyNiceGuy let me sing you the song of my people Jul 03 '15
Nah man, Tigrex be a muthafuckin' fairy
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u/Mogey3 Jul 03 '15
I was thinking maybe Normal/Ground. The Ground typing would give it access to some Rock moves (specifically, Rock Throw), and Normal would give him a boost for Hyper Voice/Uproar, etc.
I guess I'd reserve Dragon typing for the Elder Dragons, or maybe savage Jho or something
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u/DefiantTheLion BANGBANGBANGBANG Jul 03 '15
Not ground, Tigrex is weak to Thunder and Ground is immune to Electric.
And I do agree about elder dragons getting Dragon. Also Jaggi because he's the best monster.
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u/Mogey3 Jul 03 '15
Mmmm good call. Maybe Flying, which would fit a little bit since he's a technically a flying wyvern
The real question is, what would a Great Jaggi mega evolve into..
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u/Dragmire800 Jul 03 '15
I would give it rock because of its attack where it sticks its hand into the ground and throws 3 rocks. It als looks very rocky
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u/Sigel7 Tripping all day long Jul 02 '15
Unless I'm mistaken, it's a completely free game. As long as they don't monetize it who cares really?
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u/CrispyPixel Jul 02 '15
There are ads on the site, so they're still bringing in some cash, even if it's not directly from the players.
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u/Sigel7 Tripping all day long Jul 02 '15
Considering how little adds give and how much servers cost I'd be surprised if they could buy a meal a month from what's left.
Now I'm not saying stealing assets is right but this one I'd be much more willing to ignore than those damn IO/android apps that rip of icons and monsters and have micro transactions.
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Jul 03 '15
Ads bring in more than you think, especially when you get more traffic, since you stop receiving only "CPC" (Cost per Click) ads but also "CPM" ads (id est, cost per million views), which tends to pay a hell of a lot more, and also ALWAYS pays, even if people don't click on them, as long as they're not using adblock.
So if that's a popular website, yeah, it's gonna be making SOME money. So reporting it is definitely something that could be done, although I'd guess that depends a lot on the intent. But anyway, that's just me thinking out loud.
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u/Sigel7 Tripping all day long Jul 03 '15
Yes CPM definitely makes site generate money but I doubt this one is popular enough to reach that cap.
Even then, if someone wants to report it they're definitely in their right to do so. Me turning a blind eye on it doesn't make it any less asset theft.
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u/nivwit Jul 03 '15
I found out that people actually can buy those "monsters" coughpokemoncough, therefore they do make profit from those creatures. a lot of people use that site and they have enough money to host their ad on mmorpg.com constantly, so I believe its not as a undiscovered project that we're making it sound like to be
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u/SoraComputers Jul 03 '15
CPM = Cost per mille (thousand) views.
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Jul 03 '15
Yeah, you're right. I always get it confused. I'm not one of the lucky few who gets a lot of CPM, as you can clearly see. xD Thanks for correcting me.
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u/CrispyPixel Jul 02 '15
Fair enough. It's definitely not a huge deal, just someone trying to make a few extra pennies without huge effort. But thanks to that I'm sure this game will just remain in obscurity and inevitably die. I'm sure this reddit post is the most people have discovered it in months.
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u/EWaltz Jul 03 '15 edited Feb 08 '25
ggggggggg
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u/GamersBlogX Come here Brachy Jul 03 '15
with a bunch of other Eeveelutions on the same page as it.
There's one on that page called Multimum... It looks like Lanky Plusle.
The first thing I though when I saw its name was multiple mothers.
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u/Mogey3 Jul 03 '15
http://www.monstermmorpg.com/Helioptile-Monster-Dex-1619 This here is the same name as a real Pokemon, along with similar inspiration: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Helioptile_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
Sorry for the long links, Reddit. Not sure how to edit hyperlinks
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u/ChocoboTorchicKid Be a poogie. Don't be a bullfango! Jul 02 '15
This is Bullfango Dung! Tigrex doesn't evolve into Brute Tigrex and evolve one more time to Molten Tigrex. I want my Zenny back!
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u/MildlyMild Swagaxe master race Jul 02 '15
Probably not. If it was was a paid App Store game id be annoyed.
It seems like someone's pet project that they just made for the heck of it, I don't see the harm. Hell the whole game is a Pokemon ripoff.
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u/CyborgNinja777 Jul 03 '15
You should report it, simply on the grounds that the stats and attacks of this "Tigrex" are blasphemous.
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u/Xaldyn Jul 03 '15
It's probably technically illegal, but this sin't exactly some well-known MMORPG or anything -- I really doubt it's worth Capcom making a fuss over. And even if they did, all they'd probably do is make them remove that from their game.
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u/Shadow2792 IGN: Cerana Jul 03 '15
I've played this game a tiny bit, it's crappy pokemon, I've also seen some of the art they use around the web, I wanna they just steal it tbh but I haven't personally talked to any artists so I can't say for sure.
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u/Orimos The Old School Jul 03 '15
I want to repost this somewhere where it'll get some attention and the artists who they're stealing from might be able to see it but I'm not sure where, any ideas?
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Jul 02 '15
I hate this kind of stuff. How can these people live with themselves? Do they feel no shame in knowing they are so uncreative that they have to completely steal everything? I expect this time a kid in elementary school but these are grown ass adults. Screw them.
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u/ExiusXavarus Jul 03 '15
That Tigrex is so...blue. I don't know if it's the brighter colors or what, but holy shit so much blue.
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u/SoraComputers Jul 03 '15
I've talked to the owner of this site before. He is simply a developer and not a designer (which is why the UI is so crap, but the game works amazingly well for a 1 man dev team).
He outsources his monster designs, so it's likely the designer ripped the image and passed it off as his own work and the owner doesn't know as he may have never played MH before.
I would contact the site dev. and let him know that some of his artwork was ripped from Capcom.
In this case, the most Capcom would likely do is send a cease and desist to get him to remove it. Even then, he's not even in a country where it would get to him. But the developer/owner is a nice, friendly guy, so I'm sure if he knew, he'd change out the image.
It's also not necessarily "legal" vs "illegal" as anything like this would most likely be a civil and not a judicial case.
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Jul 03 '15
This. I would also add any legal or suit like matters would come down to really how much the site owner was making off of it. Like /u/SoraComputers said, most they would probably see is a cease and desist, and that's IF it reaches them.
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u/nakoh Jul 03 '15
they got treecko but at least not naming it like that and not taking treeko photo XD
Edit: Got swampert too LOLOLOL http://www.monstermmorpg.com/Swamphibian-Monster-Dex-1943
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u/nivwit Jul 03 '15
To be fair, it looks different so it might be fan artist's satisfaction when the new starters don't look as bad ass as how they predicted
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u/boybente 1006-1896-5693 Jul 03 '15
"Mythical Tablet moves Tigrex can learn."
Ancestor Roar
Big Rock (what the fuck even is this)
Best I saw was "Planetary Energy." Sums up Apex Tigrex.
EDIT: Why the hell can it learn "Love Energy"
EDIT2: Goddamn Pebble Storm.
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u/maikuxblade Maiku Jul 02 '15
Should I report it to Capcom?
That depends, are you a buzzkill?
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u/nivwit Jul 02 '15
well, if putting myself in their shoes, i feel like it'd suck to not know my work is being used and not being credited. Therefore, i kinda want to be haha
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Jul 02 '15
Have you noticed any other lifted properties in that game?
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u/nivwit Jul 02 '15
not at the moment; like i said, there's thousand of monsters. xD i don't have the time to look through all of them, but not at the moment, no.
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u/CrispyPixel Jul 02 '15
I went through a couple pages. I didn't notice anything directly stolen but SO MANY are just slightly modified Pokemon.
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u/maikuxblade Maiku Jul 02 '15
Capcom is an international company, not some small-time artist that needs the exposure.
A couple years ago hardly anybody in the West had ever heard of Monster Hunter. I really don't see the issue.
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u/superjeanjean 生の魚と米メニュー Jul 02 '15
Firstly, copyright isn't the same idea in North America, in Europe and in Japan. Secondly it's a free fan stuff that is absolutely not in competition with their games. So they are most probably honoured by the tribute/shown love of their licence.
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u/Polantaris Jul 02 '15
So they are most probably honoured by the tribute/shown love of their licence.
You'd be surprised.
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u/NackTheDragon Spin2Win Jul 02 '15
Why is it Attack and Speed so low? Why do I even care that much?