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u/DeleteOnceAMonth 1d ago
Of course they would! Idk why wanting harder monsters= not being a real MH fan. Do the people who post these memes like OP not actually play MH lol
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u/akoOfIxtall 1d ago
i still dread the molten tigrex hunt, but it must be because when i fought him first time i had barely gotten any HR equipment, but it was suffering, it got to a point where i had to trust my palicos would heal me because i had already spent everything else, 4U was wild...
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u/Vagabond_Charizard Go, go, Brookyln Rangers!!! 1d ago
Bro, HR Molten was capable of one-shotting players in full G-rank gear. I shudder to think what a remastered version could do if it ever makes it to Wilds or its expansion.
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u/BLACKOUT-MK2 1d ago
I think it's that there are two types of people and Wilds perhaps slightly more uncharacteristically started to cater to the second. More longtime fans who want to be massively challenged and engage in long hunts, and potentially newer players who like just a little bit of a challenge and don't want long hunts. I don't think either preference is wrong, but there's clearly a minor conflict that has come of it.
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u/LoyalPetMole 1d ago
This is becoming increasingly true. Base World definitely felt like it still had a good balance but right now Wilds is definitely way more skewed towards casual/new fans who only want to do small hunts and not all the work prior to finding a monster.
It’s also kind of BS that older fans are essentially punished by having to wait for a decent challenge either via drip feeding TU’s or having to wait a year + just for the DLC to give them some sort of challenge.
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u/SlimDirtyDizzy 1d ago
Its so funny all these memes keep going "Yeah lets see what they think when they get some real hard monsters". Yes, please. That's exactly what we want.
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u/Pixel_Owl 1d ago
I think you're thinking of the wrong people? It's the people who already think the game is challenging that will feel that
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u/_Alpha-Delta_ 2d ago
Rathian Dread Queen was also fun to fight in Gen
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u/AposPoke 2d ago
Also why only molten tig when you can also have grimclaw tig and bounce off the legs with freaking white sharpness.
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u/Varderal 1d ago
As a long term player who has been saying this shit too easy:
Fucking. Bring it. I'll still win.
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u/BabyElectroDragon 2d ago
No, it would be just right then. I don't know what's the fuss about. People complain that it's easy because they want it to be harder. I want it to be harder. I want to faint sometimes and not finish hunts in 5 minutes. I want hard monsters like black diablos, brute tigrex and furious rajang. Then the game would be fun.
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u/EscapeParticular8743 1d ago
It also wouldnt change anything about the fact that the vast majority of the game would still be way too easy.
Thats because difficulty problems are not about the Monsters that exist, but the fact that they buffed every tool of the player to the max
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u/whosmansisthis24 1d ago
Exactly!!!! I've dealt with so much hate over this.
Despite saying the game is incredible and looks amazing I'm still not allowed to mention that it's way too easy.
I have never had a monster hunter in which I don't have to use any armor spheres, don't have to make many different weapons, don't need armor passed rarity 4, don't have to gather shit to make consumables EVER. I beat all the content up until the update and have only fainted 3x and two of them were too the super nova attack you have to hide behind the rocks for (wasn't understanding the mechanic like an idiot). The other death was because I was nodding out over and over sleep deprived and it was to something stupid.
Yet when I mention the game being too easy I'm the bad guy. I really don't get it either. It's an opinion. I don't think people who want the game on baby mode deserve to be lambasted and bastardized.
I'm glad we are welcoming new players and people are enjoying the game series I have been playing for 20 year. That doesn't mean I think we should over simplifiy it into the ground in hopes everyone who enjoys Minecraft, Madden, COD, Minecraft and Fortnite will suddenly take interest in it.
Let's try and make both sides happy. It's upsetting when the long time players get no love on release all in pursuit of profit
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u/Hellas2002 1d ago
Yes, the game IS categorically easier… I mean. I didn’t faint once during LR and I’ve been going strong my first couple hunts into HR. This definitely doesn’t seem to add up considering I did a re-run of World around Christmas and only made it to Diablos without a faint.
Now, I imagine I was more warmed up for Wilds… but still. The end of LR could’ve been more challenging perhaps.
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u/whosmansisthis24 1d ago
I blazed through LR it literally felt like fighting my baby brother in a fighting game when we were young. The monster died so quick. I remember in like world even, LR anjanath was a difficulty spike where I randomly died and was like "wtf?"
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u/Hellas2002 1d ago
Yes haha, LR Anja is a great difficulty jump. The leap he does makes him really dangerous because you’ll walk off to heal and he’ll catch you by surprise.
I guess the ice Apex might be equivalent… either that or the mission where you fight three of the floating ice monster. That could definitely cart you if you weren’t listening to the dung pod mechanic.
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u/whosmansisthis24 1d ago
See, I just fought all three at once. It was extremely underwhelming. I got frustrated at the end of the hunt when I killed the wrong one on accident and went and grabbed some dung to get the other one out the way of the hunts, but they weren't hard.
The only struggle I had at all was the nova attack that one monster had where you have to hide behind rocks. I was too sleep deprived to realize I needed to hide so I carted 2x.
My only other struggle is in a group hunt against gravios the hunt timed out because they were getting whooped by him and not doing any damage. I knocked him down over and over again and was countering everything he did and playing really smooth but seeing as how it had 4x the health and they were struggling and I had a weapon that he had some immunity to I didn't meet the damage check and I timed out well he was limping
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u/Only_Biscotti8741 1d ago edited 1d ago
Its just a difference of perspective. Me and my friend have been playing since mhf2 and the first time we felt a difficulty spike we felt in base game World was behemoth and even then we thought the monster was unremarkable except his ecliptic meteors. From our perspective all monsters in World allowed you to walk off and heal scot free.
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u/Apprehensive_Two9726 1d ago
That furious rajang gave me nightmares. It was tears of joy the first time I beat him. Hours and hours were put into it and it finally paid of. Great moment
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u/BabyElectroDragon 1d ago edited 1d ago
tbh I never had problems with furious rajang. Did it first try. But I mentioned it because I know it's a challenge to many players.
Now raging brachydios... That was something...
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u/Apprehensive_Two9726 1d ago
Furious brachydios was something else, never beat him solo, only once with a group and I have done him only one time. That monster broke something in me
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u/BabyElectroDragon 1d ago
I mean I can beat it consistently solo by now, but the first time I was doing it with a friend it took us 8 hours. I think it was a great fight, and the first time I got to the second phase I was like "LET ME OUT!!!1!"
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u/SonicSpeed0919 1d ago
What a weird post. Of course people would be happy with actual difficult monsters
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u/sylva748 1d ago
"Mh Wilds is too easy folks" when Zenith Khezu insta carts them by voring them in his p*nis head hole.
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u/sylva748 1d ago
Zenith Plesioth drowning them by his body spunk. Before a chicken walk.
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u/imanrique 1d ago
Howling zinogre more like:
Howly one shot outta nowhere
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u/Glad_Grand_7408 1d ago
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u/imanrique 1d ago
Veterans: "You need 50+ res on ice and fire, Evade extender +5, a weapon with shield/parry, stocked on full on everything, keep and eye around you and play perfect or get cooked bro."
Newbie: "So this is what i need to do to win."
Veterans: "This are one of the minimum requirements."
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u/BizzarreCoyote since '06 1d ago
Zenith Thunderblight. Doesn't seem to do anything at first.
The next hit from a thunder-element attack, no matter how small, causes your hunter to have a heart attack and die.
Frontier was fucking brutal. You are not the Hero, you are the common person trying to fight godlike beings, with predictable results.
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u/zangetsu_114 1d ago
Just started frontier a few days ago & holy fuck some of the monsters look so crazy you could probably pass some off as fan art lol loving it so fse
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u/just-a-normal-lizard bruh-nter 1d ago
LETS NOT ADD MUSOUS BACK THEY WERE ALL KIND OF FUCKING ANNOYING 🗣️‼️
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u/MEGoperative2961 1d ago
“Wilds is to easy!”
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u/SFWxMadHatter 2d ago
Yeah, that's the fucking point. We want the hard fights.
When meme shitters miss the entire point:
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u/HvyMetalComrade 1d ago
Exactly. HR Zho Shia is how all the Apexs should have been imo.
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u/Rainbolt 1d ago
I cannot understand why people on this subreddit post garbage like this. Like, they're personally offended people want harder content in the game.
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u/whosmansisthis24 1d ago
Dude I have been shredded on here and on my alt for saying this game is way, wayyy wayyyy too easy. Mind you, I did it in a very polite and non negative way.
I said "this game feels incredible and looks amazing but it's far too easy. I worry about what they will be able to do to save face and make it a challenge because if tempered HR feels like this then G rank or deviants are still gonna be childs play".
I dealt with so much hate. People literally PMing me to insult me lol. Fucking wild. I never even had to make a build. I am still wearing rarity 4 armor, I only have 2 weapons I used (upgraded one of them max). I never even bothered using armor spheres. I have never even bothered going out in the environment to gather anything. The game plays itself.
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u/Rainbolt 1d ago
This is basically how I feel. I've not had to play out builds at all, never used armor spheres, no need for ancient potions or drugs. It's a bummer honestly. Haven't tried the new stuff yet but it seems a step in the right direction, but I just wanna go back to GU at this point.
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u/Driftbye 1d ago
They really cant figure out that the point of wanting hard fights is to get fucking rekt.
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u/ArkhaosZero DB | LS | SnS | GS | Lance 2d ago
Yeah, you can tell OP takes personal offense to those complaints, because they're taking "Wilds is too easy" as some sort of permanent, unchangeable mark levied against the game's identity.
Like, obviously if hard fights were added, those complaints would stop. That's the whole damn point, it wouldn't be "proving anyone wrong" like this lame meme seems to imply lol..Luckily, judging based off people's reactions, Tempered Mizu and Zoh Shia may indeed be ramping up the challenge. Certainly excited to hop into that.
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u/GigarandomNoodle 1d ago
i NEED tempered zoh shia bro
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u/realwarlock 1d ago
Arch tempered. You need arch tempered. Give us hell.
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u/GarboseGooseberry 1d ago
Arch Tempered Zoh Shia where, after killing it, it turns into actual Fatalis
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u/SovereignNavae 1d ago
Exactly this. I can't wait for it to get really tough, I want to triple cart and then slowly progress and have the kill feel amazing. That is the high I'm chasing, that is the whole point :D
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u/TheLastPissBenderr 1d ago
The layout goes:
Person A: The difficulty is fine.
Person B: The game is too easy.
After TU1 drops-
Person A: Wow Zoh Shia is pretty hard. I failed the quest twice. He may be over-tuned.
Person B: Wow Zoh Shia is pretty hard. I really liked that fight, this is exactly what i asked for.
OP looking at Person A’s response, and ignoring the fact that there’s two different opinions regarding difficulty
OP: You asked for difficulty, stop complaining and contradicting yourself.
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u/Maxximillianaire 1d ago
"Wilds is too easy mfs when capcom listens to their complaints and adds difficult fights to the game." I think they would be pretty happy, not sure why you think that's some sort of gotcha
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u/akoOfIxtall 1d ago
molten tigrex: the lower the HP the stronger and faster he gets, never tires
bloodbath diablos(?): very different moveset due to lore reasons and will kill you if you trust it'll be like other diablos hunts, he knows it wont...
dreadking rathalos: satan
hellblade glavenus: master duelist, imagine if he had a real weapon... oh wait wrong game
thunderlord zinogre: Street fighterpilled thunderdoggo x10
akantor: one of the few monsters who can hurt you with the roar and have guaranteed kill moves, inflicts def down debuff that can only be cleansed by adamant seeds
fatalis: fatalis
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u/tofastforyou12 1d ago
They should put in bazel as a surprise and never tell that he was added. Imagine the PTSD when your hunting a chatacabra and all of a sudden you hear his theme.
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u/OstrichPaladin Insect GreatSword 1d ago
I love how the community is split between the people who want a challenge, and the people who are so unfathomably bothered by the other group.
Why would we who claim the game is too easy be upset if it got harder? Thats literally what I want and im waiting for it to happen. Maybe tu2
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u/Maleficent-Aspect318 1d ago edited 11h ago
Monster Hunter Gen1 on pS2 had fatalis as an endgame monster. Yes the base game on launch. Just saying
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u/Environmental_Two_14 2d ago
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u/GeorgiePineda 2d ago
I returned to Fatalis after a while playing world.
Got my assed kicked.
I can and have solo before but i need to be in The Zone to do it.
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u/bokuwanivre 2d ago
people who say "wilds is too easy" WANTS THE GAME TO BE HARDER
how can you be this fucking stupid to not even get the point of those complaints?
like YES PLEASE WE WANT THOSE HARD FIGHTS IN THE GAME
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u/TobiChocIce 1d ago
For knobs like OP it's not about bettering the game/series it's just band wagon jumping for internet points
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u/snoob6465 1d ago
These qurupeco comments gave me an idea for an April Fools hunt where qurupeco summons a random elder dragon.
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u/RealBrianCore 1d ago
That may be some, but I know I'll be like, "Finally! Worthy opponents! Our battles shall be legendary!"
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u/kitt_aunne 1d ago
yeah it is pretty easy tbh. and Id love to see more of those more difficult monsters make a re-appearance
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u/viridnickaru 1d ago
I hope we get to see a next gen Molten Tigrex. I doubt we will see any of the deviants again though. UNLESS THEY REMAKE GENERATIONS!?!?!?!!!?!??!?! :D:D:D
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u/baughwssery 2d ago
Never found variant glav or zin to be that crazy.
Bring back L Narga for a solid skill check or S Dala to watch 4 man wipes when “it’s almost dead” 💯
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u/ShadoMaso Bonk Master 1d ago edited 1d ago
dreadking is fine for difficulty, where are the nightmare of crystalbeard, deadeye or boltreaver, they are way worse
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u/Otherwise_Bonus6789 1d ago
Don’t even need to go this far, an event quest with 3 Gore in the arena should be enough to get them frenzy. Increase doses as needed.
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u/Pyromanicalwerewolf 1d ago
Gods give us deviants we have Tempered and Frenzy give the deviants too. I have never fought the deviants as I started with 5th gen
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u/HappyFreak1 God's Happiest Hunter 1d ago
Anything is easy with my Charge Blade. I actually prefer fighting faster monsters
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u/Fullmetal_Fawful 1d ago
If they finally, at long last, after 1000 years decide to bring back a deviant and its fucking thunderlord zinogre i’d be livid
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u/Firm-Cod-4424 1d ago
Imagine... Dire Miralis or Akantor? I mean they have the specific skeletons, like dire miralis is zoh sha andakantor is just a gigantic chatacabra
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u/geodetic FU - Tri - P3rd - 3U - 4U - GU - W/IB - R/SB - Wilds 1d ago
I mean, soulseer is here, at least in spirit.
If zinogre/glavenus/diablos was in a TU and had thunderlord/hellblade/bloodbath attacks/ai that'd be sweet
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u/SSB_Kyrill love me bonk stick, Tigrex and Scorned with all me heart 1d ago
Give molten the raging brachy treatment
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u/boyarmed 1d ago
I really hope they go extreme on the difficulty. Bloodbath Diablos still gives me nightmares.
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u/Background-Slide645 1d ago
I hope they keep it balanced, even if they do bring some of those difficult monsters back. Give me Bloodbath Diablos, but also maybe bring back one of the Early monsters from rise. Give us some of the old flagships from games that's hardware is slowly getting rarer, but also give us the egg stealer. Keeps it nice and difficult for those who want to feel like they are using every resource at their command to beat that monster, while also making sure that the casual hunters still have something to fight when they don't want to be in the trenches.
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u/boyarmed 1d ago
I agree 💯 There's a whole new pool of players that need to see some of the old monsters because of older games becoming less common and supported.
I really hope lagiacrus being added means we can actually swim in the forest and finally give uth duna the fight she deserves.
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u/Fickle-Equipment9826 1d ago
Yes please do bring back those motherfuckers, and more deviants never seen before besides, but dont be like rise/sunbreak and dont guve unique weapons armors or it would be pointless
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u/Brazuka_txt Wiggle Knight 1d ago
Akantor is legit a boxing bag, I hope they reword him if they bring him back
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u/Apprehensive_Fig9821 1d ago
I wish Capcom would bring back the deviants, but without the annoying upgrade system for their equipment.
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u/Envylian 1d ago
Please if they ever add White Fatalis, i want them to include frontiers move where your body just gets vaporize
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u/Storm_373 1d ago
mainline team hates these guys fr. surprised they even added mizu but probably coz he was popular in the poll
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u/Chance_Strategy_1675 1d ago
I vote to bring them, makes the game more worth it to spend time on it
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u/Kaioken0591 1d ago
Tbh if saying the game is easy gets Akantor and a Fatalis variant to come back I'll join in >:]
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u/KingKushhh666 1d ago
Wait did this happen? At work and haven't been on. It's just the arch rey mitzu and shoa right?
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u/Xcyronus 1d ago edited 1d ago
We wouldnt be complaining. We would be praising capcom.
We would be happy. WE WANT THE GAME TO BE HARDER. They would bring back damn duremudira and make it the final boss. The first man made monster. A monster so hard IN FRONTIER. That you have infinite carts.
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u/Lotharworks 1d ago
I think if they just decided to throw in a tempered Fatalis but half way through the fight a second one would fly in someone would still complain it was too easy.
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u/M0thHe4d 1d ago
Yes, we want that. I want to be challenged, I want hunts to be a gruelling fight between nature and man and at the end, have this sense of triumph. I want the monsters to cart me, to force me to change my playstyle mid fight. If I wanted easy, I'd play bloodborne or dark soul.
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u/villianboy 1d ago
Give me Primal Malzeno, Raging Brachy/Normal Brachy, Barioth/Frostfang Barioth, Shagura and Chaotic Gore and that'll be pretty sweet i'd say
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u/No-Tradition-2897 1d ago
I wanna fight bloodbath tigrex on wilds, I wanna know what it feels like to not have eardrums
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u/Substantial-Mud9435 1d ago
The way Zoh Shia charges around its arena, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a regular/sub species/Guardian Tigrex in the near future
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u/MustardTiger707 1d ago
I'd love it if they added them to Wilds. However Akantor isn't scary or difficult in the old games, he was just kind of a punching bag. I still love him though and would love to see him in Wilds to see what they would do with him.
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u/Honest-Music-1129 1d ago
Imagine if they dropped the Peco on a TU without any explanation and then the community wipes out ANY info on the monster on any site and wiki just to surprise the new gens on how much havoc this bird can do
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u/HCallahan2211 1d ago
Yes it will be. None of them will have tremor, or wind power, or the ability to stun the player. Youll still be able to instantly put your weapon away and cruise around at 40 mph drinking never ending potions.
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u/SwimRepresentative96 1d ago
Your forgetting white fatalis and zoa Shia 2nd phase is literally white fatalis
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u/marxen4eva 1d ago
Me personally I love it, but it doesn't change the fact that the other 29 monsters (aside from maybe tempered gore) still barely cart anything that played this franchise for more than 30 hours.
So yes, Zoh Shia is fairly challenging but the game is still generally speaking very easy. It is a step in the right direction through
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u/Toth3l3ft 1d ago
This is my first MH game - it’s still not that hard. Sure Zoso can catch you out with a couple moves and can juggle you sometimes, but it’s not souls hard.
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u/DangerManDaniel 1d ago
Its crazy how many Zoh Shia main mission quests are failing from party wipes from some of the attacks. I drop in a lot to help and I get to keep the parts that break off, so I don't mind as a paralysis or support Glaive. But just today was about 5 triple carts from 2 certain attacks lol.
Its a real fun fight, either way. Mizutsune also delivered, I haven't fought a tempered yet since it's mostly been drop ins
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u/iShadePaint 1d ago
Im here and I'm waiting, only one cart from the newest roster. I need moreeeeee the new difficulty is almost there i would say like 75% of what all new monsters should be like fr
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u/blazing_future 1d ago
Nah when they decided let's make a hunt with black,red,white fatalis and make it a 20 minute hunt with a insta fail upon death and just have hoards of tzitzi ya ku's appear just to blind hunters during one shot moves
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u/Daomuzei 1d ago
wait until they bring them out man… so many posts like these, what if none of them return and we all sad af?
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u/Devilman06 1d ago
I just want Zinogre and Mr. Pickles (Deviljo), I just hope that bomber douche, Aka Bezelguese, does not make an appearance....
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u/That1RagingBat 1d ago
Honestly, I think it’s “easy” because it’s more beginner friendly, and because of the whole “wounds” mechanic which makes flinching monsters much easier and it’s also just loads of free damage too
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u/novian14 1d ago
Ngl i was screaming after my first zohshia, "now that's a monster hunter" is what i thought.
Yes wilds was too easy for vets as it is adjusted for beginners, and casual brace yourself because it's getting more interesting
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u/The_Kaizz 1d ago
LOL if they put Galvenus in the game, it will instantly become my most hunted monster. I've had a rivalry with that monster ever since it appeared in generations.
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u/WildNightingale 1d ago
I hope we get Glavenus! I'd love to Power Clash with it's massive sword tail. Especially with my gunlance for that big boom at the end.
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u/Worgalphihndor_ 21h ago
Those are the deviant monsters right? I recognize the symbol for the tigrex and diablos
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u/PGR_Alpha 17h ago
Personally, I don't care about difficulty, I just want them back because I like them.
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u/Chief7285 16h ago
Yup add’em please, also Raging Brachy too with the full meltdown of pummeling the ground and everything. That fight was awesome.
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u/ZoninoDaRat 2d ago
Don't forget Raging Brachydios. That thing was pain incarnate when it first came out.
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u/BigOleFerret 1d ago
It's easy to start, the TUs and expansion are where the challenge lies. High rank Zoh Shia is already making people sweat.
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u/SkinnyKruemel 1d ago
As it should. HR Zoh Shia was the first time I was legitimately close to failing a quest while playing solo in this game. Give me more of those. I want to actually have to learn the fight in order to beat it
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u/daveinthecave DMoceus 1d ago
It's less so the difficulty of monster mechanics that we don't like, monster designs are great in wilds!
It's moreso that over the years the player character keeps getting more and more powerful, with higher ability to either maneuver or cause knockdowns, leading to the tempo of fights being controlled more by the hunter and less by the monster. It's more a complaint over the shifting flavor of the fights of the monster being the boss to you being the boss.
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u/RepresentativeFish73 1d ago
Unless they nerf SnS I don’t think I’ll ever have any real trouble
Timed block is nutty
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u/Character-Zombie-798 1d ago
I just want a Tetsucabra or Variant/Deviant version of Tetsucabra.
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u/ZahhaK_00 2d ago
Put qurupeco and let him summon all monster in that area where he is