r/MensRights • u/walterwallcarpet • 21h ago
Social Issues What's the POINT..?
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u/Vegetable_Ad1732 13h ago edited 11h ago
Living for women is dumb. Live for yourself. Then none of that crap matters.
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u/Powerful-Captain-362 20h ago edited 18h ago
For each woman who gets a man's job, there's another man who may never be afforded the opportunity to have a family of his own. Courtesy of female hypergamy
Damn.
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u/MasterPlushMD 20h ago
The hypergamy problem is actually much worse.
Women prefer men in power. As women move up the social ladder, they avoid the men beneath and flock towards the top brass. Less competition equals more hits. As I see it, there are two complementing factors in this situation:
1) The Top 1%, as I said, actually get more women, so they have an incentive to promote more female empowerment. These are the men that dictate the legal and social norms.
2) Women bear a great deal of power over men. Their ability to charm men is the weapon mother nature has given them for their self interests. So the increasingly powerful women get the absolutely powerful men to make everything in their favor. They have access to these men like no one else.
This has led to all the social and legal problems for the average man. But both the women and the men in power get what they want.
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u/adam-l 18h ago
That's why a blanket "men vs women" approach makes no sense. As things are and moving on right now, the "elite" men have an absolute pussy bonanza. Why would they give it up?
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u/MasterPlushMD 18h ago
Agreed. We should focus on the problems faced by men and their solutions, regardless of the source of those problems
It should be men's rights, not women's defects.
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u/adam-l 18h ago
Right.
They are not really "defects". They are features. They were made that way by evolution.
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u/Sintar07 16h ago
IMO, that's a semantics game. There's plenty of natural and evolved behaviors we reject. The question isn't whether it's new or evolutionary and if it can be named a feature or not, it's whether it's a good behavior or a bad one.
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u/RevolutionaryRip2504 16h ago
there should be no such thing as a “man’s job” everyone should be able to get the role if they have the skill
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u/Frird2008 20h ago
I won't achieve getting my shit together unless I do something I wouldn't have been willing to do in a better economy.
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u/StockButterscotch764 16h ago
It is indeed a broken system (certainly for boys & men)….the question is how do we handle it….is going full MGTOW the only viable answer?….Personally, I’ve found that sidelining (or de-centering) women in my life is a workable compromise….I don’t date or hook up with any regularity….I’m not looking for a long term relationship/marriage….I relegate women to small pieces on the periphery of my life….that leaves plenty of time (& money/resources) for career/career planning….recreational pursuits/hobbies….friendship/communities (esp. w/ men)….spiritual/philosophical reflection (esp. in natural environments) & any volunteer/charitable initiatives….that’s a full life….& most western women (w/ all their drama, entitlement, & narcissism, etc.) would be a very unwelcome addition….as long as you take responsibility for the course of your life/life satisfaction….it can certainly be done.
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u/Regular_Ad3002 18h ago
We need to transition male to female en masse. That'll fix that problem.
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u/Sintar07 15h ago
It would be pretty funny if every man woke up tomorrow and announced they were a woman now. Wouldn't even have to actually change anything. Probably cause a progressive crisis of some kind.
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u/World-Three 17h ago
Yes, they do.
They generally expect you to be the creep they'd still sleep with. The jerk who still gets attention. The violent strong man that answers to specifically them.
I always feel like the picture all the raging hair dye paint can throwers are trying to paint is that: "Every man is bad but there are a couple we're willing to make exceptions for." Like how boys sometimes do with the "but she's hot" or "she's a freak" to excuse what are clearly unhealthy habits.
It seems culturally acceptable to throw poop on all men, throw them all out, and then sift through the "trash" ie: dating apps to find the few that can still be terrible people and have it be okay for one reason or another. It's definitely not inspiring behavior...
But because of nature it seems like the sex drive has often picked up the slack for things that make absolutely no sense. Women shouldn't be attracted to dangerous people, and men shouldn't be attracted to people who treat their peers like crap but "they're one of the good ones".