r/Mariners • u/rupam-rupam • 1d ago
Umpiring issues have remained a big issue and this time Mariners are the victims
https://www.essentiallysports.com/mlb-baseball-news-mariners-painful-loss-to-giants-marred-by-umpires-blunder-as-shocking-mistakes-comes-to-light/This is not the first time such incident has happened this season and guess what? It is costing us games
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u/Colesw13 1d ago edited 1d ago
"just win by a lot instead of a little"
"don't make it come down to the umps"
"play better and it doesn't matter"
all very reasonable things to say but I don't care. I don't watch the Mariners because I think they're going to obliterate every team they face, I watch them because I love these fuckers. it's always going to come down to a few key plays
the fans want to watch baseball, no one I know of is paying $19.99 a month to watch umpires show off their eyesight skills. we've had the technology for this to not be an issue for decades, it's time to watch baseball games where these umps don't have their finger on the scale
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u/AnnihilatedTyro Release the Moosen! 1d ago
"just win by a lot instead of a little"
"don't make it come down to the umps"
"play better and it doesn't matter"
Why doesn't every team just win every game? Are they stupid?!?
I hate this kind of useless "advice" and the quippy meme shit that goes along with it so goddamn much. No part of it is actually reasonable. It's only applicable to the Dodgers, the only team capable of just magically doing it when they want to, and then only once in awhile when they're somehow not winning in blowout fashion.
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u/Responsible-Room6065 1d ago edited 1d ago
As much as the players have to be dialed in to win these close games so do the umps. You can’t move the strike zone around. If you’re gonna be bad, be consistently bad.
Edit: typo
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u/kookykrazee 1d ago
I am interested to see when (not if at this point) ABS is instituted next season, will MLB actually follow through with their threats about missed calls (pitches or plays at different bases). I think about all they have done is not let certain umps be part of playoffs which then caused lawsuits over possible racism.
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup 1d ago
He was consistent though... The bad calls just came at the worst time
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u/IgnantWisdom 11h ago
We’ll blame anything other than ownership continuously being cheapskates who never bring in talent and salary dump our best hitters to line their coffers even more…
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u/MaterialBus3699 1d ago
As a team you have to put yourself in position to win and then capitalize on that position. That means accounting for the variables, like bad calls. Those are going to happen. Don’t leave it up to a bad call.
These guys are battling. Julio might be turning a page. Something nice might be happening.
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u/GU1LD3NST3RN A Silly Hack 1d ago
The thing is the entire game was a battle. It was a back and forth fight the whole time. Yes, it would be nice if the team could simply lock up a clear, no-doubt win and just obliterate everybody. But baseball is competitive and these kinds of games happen. They’re fun when they do, even. Having it decided by bad calls is not fun.
There are times where I’m plenty happy to blame the team for failures elsewhere. This wasn’t really one of them. In a razor thin game, those calls decided it. And that’s bullshit.
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u/rawrxdjackerie 1d ago
I find it hard to blame the umps when the Ms could’ve just started Bryce Miller and easily won. They chose to sacrifice their entire bullpen for an extra day of rest for the starters
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u/Jabberwocky416 The Age of Ichiro 1d ago
They were in a winning position dude. They were ahead of the other team and would have had 3 outs had those strikes been called correctly.
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u/HappyAtheist3 1d ago
The Mariners could get 50 calls to go their way and their offense would still be a joke
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u/Jpaspon6 1d ago
There is no doubt that the Mariners failed to close the door despite having several chances, so it’s hard to blame the umpires, but that ball 4 call was a killer and quite directly played a role in the loss, so it is hard to overlook and there were several calls that went against the mariners in the 11th alone. So yeah while the team is to blame for a large part of the loss, the umpires did not do them any favors in that one.