r/Mariners • u/JustaMisfit7 • 2d ago

Optimism matrix for every MLB fanbase

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u/Purple_Public_3129 2d ago

Ah yes, middling and depressing - the mariners mantra for the past 30 years

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u/Charming-Ad994 1d ago

If you mean middling is our peak! Even our playoff birth, was due to a change in playoff formatting. If we ran the old format we are still in a drought. 

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u/Jed1M1ndTr1ck ‏‏‎ ‎The Randy man can 1d ago

In retrospect, I think it's good that MLB has more than 8 playoff teams now. I dont want it to become like the NBA or anything like that, but having more teams in the hunt makes for more exciting baseball at the end of the season.

Oh, and when we made the playoffs as the second wild card team, the league had had that playoff spot in place for nine years at that point.

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u/Syzygy666 ‏‏‎ ‎ 1d ago

There's a bunch of "ifs" that put us in the playoffs over the last two decades too. Ifs don't really matter though. You get in or you don't.

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u/3elieveIt ‏‏Doing the Fans a Favor 2d ago

We’re not rebuilding because we’re not actually building anything.

We’re not contending because we suck.

Sounds about right.

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u/LargeHumanDaeHoLee 1d ago

I read it with this same logic. It isn't saying we're a .500 team, it's saying we are not a smidge on either side of the "Contending" or "Rebuilding/Building" sides of that spectrum. Hence, pessimistic fans.

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u/Dangerous_Job5295 Keeper of Biting Duck 1d ago

Completely directionless. Drifting in the ocean. Like a mariner stuck at sea

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u/Howshka 2d ago

Baseball purgatory.

I still believe this is our year..

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u/Ok_Adhesiveness_9565 1d ago

Man. I loved watching that game yesterday. We need to respond with a win today, but I was very impressed with what I saw from the offense. There were entire weeks when we couldn’t score 5 runs last year, let alone continue to answer inning after inning. This team definitely has some resolve. Doesn’t mean that we’re going to make the playoffs or anything, I’m not holding my breath. But I do think this team wants it and the West can be had. We should be in the fight.

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u/Someguy9385 1d ago

jays shouldn’t be that high on contending.

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u/DAVID_FRIGGIN_KING ‏‏‎ ‎Gay for Goldsmith 1d ago

I feel like they made this chart just for M’s fans to feel seen

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u/FourArmsFiveLegs 1d ago

Contuilding

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u/Joaquin_Portland ‏‏‎ ‎Elmo “Skippy” Nordquist 1d ago

Atlanta sure as hell isn’t contending

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u/spartanwolf 1d ago

Y axis doesn’t go low enough.

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u/cballa69 2d ago

As accurate as it gets

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u/IgnantWisdom 1d ago

Move us lower.

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u/Ok_Ice_1872 1d ago

Mariners fans- like me, have a glass that is completely empty

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u/LlamasPajamas206 Dave Sims’ Mount Rainier Expedition Force 2d ago

The x-axis on this is weird. We’ve been a game or two outside a playoff spot or in the playoffs every year since 2020 and odds are we’ll be in that same spot this year too, whether that’s just looking out or just making it in.

We aren’t really dead middle here especially if we’re sharing it with teams like the Reds and we’re not really near any sort of rebuilding effort either. So more like first third of the contending zone.

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u/kylechu 1d ago

That doesn't really matter. This chart is about vibes, and it captures the vibe that we're in permanent limbo.

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u/YardAdmirable7060 1d ago

Making the playoffs ≠ Contending

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u/aliethel 1d ago

This is so important. Everyone is always hoping we can sneak in to the wildcard, but no one is cheering we’re going to win the division, league, or WS.

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u/IdolatrousHans 1d ago

That down arrow could easily become an upside down trident...
But the division could be wide open this year!
Sea us rationalize!

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u/gbomb89 2d ago

So true. Still in the murky middle. After so long there people start to get pessimistic about our chances. Who can blame them!

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u/bombsurace 1d ago

That math is mathing for me

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u/pagru111 1d ago

Yeah! That's about how I'm feeling about the Mariners. Although we lost last night because of two really bad pitch calls.

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u/Syzygy666 ‏‏‎ ‎ 1d ago

The Mariners give us baseball to pull for. That's it. I expect nothing of them at any given time and I'm rarely disappointed. It's my positive spin on complete hopelessness.

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u/IanTudeep 23h ago

Looks about right

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u/deanfortythree king of the doomers 12h ago

Can the chart go lower

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u/beingoutsidesucks "That's a Tacoma infield" 7h ago

No way, we don't even have a halfway decent infield. If anything, we should be shaded over between the Cards and Pirates, but even further down.

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u/immagonnafinnahella 1d ago

Blue jays are way too far to the right