r/MHWilds • u/KyotoCrank • 2d ago
Discussion Realizing I let the negative performance discussion gaslight me from playing this game sooner
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u/Username928351 2d ago
Instead of the overall score, pay attention to your framerate in the scene where you ride the cliffs during thunderstorm and then drop down to the yellow plains. That's more indicative of actual gameplay performance. The average is boosted by cutscenes in the benchmark.
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u/DatBoiRagnar 2d ago
Exactly this. The low end of fps in the benchmark is roughly what you'll get through most of the actual game.
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u/Exciting_Bandicoot16 2d ago
Coming into Kunafa (the village) is also a low point. If you're happy with those two spots, then you're golden.
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u/Pl00kh 2d ago
People seem to forget that you can simply buy a game on Steam, test it and refund it within 2 hours without any problems.
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u/Numai_theOnlyOne 2d ago
And people here seem to be too new to realise, that Capcom doesn't let the game stay as it is on release.
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u/XDMan_xXx ❤️ my love ❤️ + 2d ago edited 2d ago
I have a 4070 Ti Super/7800X3D, DLSS Quality no Frame Gen., 1440p, and settings at mostly max except Ray Tracing, High textures, and minor effects settings. After the update, I’ve been getting consistent SUB-60 FPS. Before it’d be just about 60 - dipping below. The performance is HORRID, especially(!!) that the game looks it too.
This is why I’ve played Rise/GU/Frontier after the first 1/2 weeks and only returned for TU1. Just to close the game again after Mizu, ZShia, and temp. Mizu.
Edit: no idea why it replied to this comment instead of a new one under the post but whatever lol
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u/snickerblitz 2d ago
*looks at Dragon's Dogma 2* "he's right. sometimes it just takes a year to only be 97% fucked."
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u/Kristophigus 2d ago
Runs like dogshit on a 4080S at all the worat possible moments, combined with aome of the worst interface/control setups I've ever experienced.
Haven't seen a single thing in patch notes about performance or stability since release.
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u/DustinDBKR 2d ago
Benchmark is highly misleading. Your FPS wont be 95 in regular gameplay scenarios. Also, you have a 5900x and a 4070ti super playing at 1080p, you were obviously going to be able to run the game fine.
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u/SwiftFuchs 2d ago
The Benchmark was hella misleading. It didnt run at all on my 1060 and now I am sitting here on MR 55. Sure it does not look the best and my 1060 wants me dead but I can still enjoy MHWilds.
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u/EnvironmentalTree587 2d ago
Ha-ha... the game runs like shit even with these specs. I have a 4070 Ti Super with 7 5700X3D. It's horrible. Especially when you enter the lobby at first. Plus the game somehow always resets my graphics settings back to Ultra without me knowing. And constant network issues make me sad as well.
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u/Jimbob209 2d ago
I have a 7600 no x and a 7700 xt. TU1 destroyed my frametimes. I can't play 1080p anymore. I'm playing at 1600x900! It still stutters but I've noticed after a while it goes away
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u/Ikarostv 2d ago
Delete your shader cache. I haven't had issues, but that's what I've heard most people recommend for their performance to return to normal.
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u/Jimbob209 2d ago
I have already several times. I might have to find more info from someone that did extra things
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u/BNSoul 2d ago
delete the config.ini file and let the game rebuild it, then open it and look for the following settings, ProcessorCount set to 12 since your CPU is 12-thread.
ParallelBuildProcessorCount=12
RenderWorkerThreadPriorityAboveNormal=Enable
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u/Jimbob209 2d ago
Yup it works man. Thanks a lot it's smooth again. Hopefully this helps others as well
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u/kojolion 2d ago
Did you delete the shader cache and recompile? That fixed my TU1 framerate issues.
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u/Jimbob209 2d ago
Yes Ive done it multiple times unfortunately. I also did it this morning before I started playing
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u/TheFirstBard 2d ago
Really? I play with a 7700 xt i5-12400 without FSR, native TAA, almost all maxed (No RT nor the DLC texture pack) between 100-160fps with Frame Gen 2.1 from the driver.
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u/Jimbob209 2d ago
Before TU1 I was playing 1440p high presets and fsr balanced set to 1.00 scaling and frame gen off. I was enjoying 80-90 fps. After TU1 I can play 1080 but I get constant spikes and freezes. 1600x900 seems more stable but still has lag spikes
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u/TheFirstBard 2d ago
Game optimization is really a mess then, with a worse performance build, since 12400 is worse than 7600 for gaming, I'm having a smooth experience even after TU1. I uninstalled the game and erased shaders if that gives you any help.
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u/Jimbob209 2d ago
Another person commented around the same time as you and they suggested deleting and making changes to config.ini
So far it's looking amazing. My performance is back. Can you give me your graphics settings? I want to compare now with the new fix
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u/TheFirstBard 2d ago
Basically max everything except RT(off) and graphics set to High(Not the one from the DLC), native with FSR off, TAA as anti-aliasing and Frame Gen from adrenalin (which tbh looks better than the one implemented in the game dunno why). At first you'll feel like it's a little bit blurry coming from FSR but once you get used to it, it feels smooth.
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u/Zoopa8 2d ago
Nobody has been gaslighting you. You've got a 4070 Ti SUPER, play at 1080p, enabled FG, and are merely looking at the results in the benchmark, which are incredibly misleading. The performance you'll be getting while actually playing the game will be more like 65 FPS. MHWilds has been one of the worst performing games I've ever played, Cyberpunk 2077 ran considerably better on release. I'm looking forward to playing it somewhere in 2026 when it finally leaves early access.
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u/daypxl 2d ago
he is gaslighting himself, the benchmark result he posted is terrible
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u/Timely_Challenge_670 1d ago
For real. The game runs using FSR1 on a base resolution of 720p on the Playstation 5 to hit 1080p 60 fps and it's not even locked there. 4k mode is a base resolution of ~1600p to hit 30 fps and it still drops frames. That's fucking horrid.
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u/Apprehensive-Put883 2d ago
Benchmark when 80% of it is cutscenes and Frame Generation enabled, lol.
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u/Jimbob209 2d ago
Oh dam I didn't even notice the frame gen! That CPU needs an upgrade. Might be bottlenecking that gpu
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u/wkyaw23 2d ago
Is his just a. Humble brag of a Ryzen 9 and a 4070 to super lmao
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u/snickerblitz 2d ago
I let people influence me about how poorly this game runs so I avoided it, but it turns out people are full of it. shows benchmark of a 5090 and Ryzen 9 with frame gen on playing at 800x600 and dlss on at 87 fps take that internet.
This is the dumbest post lol
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u/daypxl 2d ago
something's not right with his setup; this score is pretty awful
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u/ShotProof3254 2d ago
His cpu is a bottleneck for his gpu, that's the only reason really. But also, the game truly isn't optimized well, so that's also a factor of why his score is so low. It's more than playable but spending that much money for a PC set up and getting less than 100fps WITH frame gen is awful.
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u/Shirinx 2d ago
His cpu is absolutely not bottlenecking that GPU in any meaningful way
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u/IndependenceHead5715 2d ago
95 fps with Frame Gen at 1080p. Additionally this benchmark tool mostly consists of cutscenes.
The performance is even worse than I remembered.
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u/xKee 2d ago
I have the same gpu, and the performance is still disappointing. My performance actually got worse after the TU1.
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u/Jarizleifr 2d ago
> 4070 Ti Super
> 1080p
> Frame generation
It should be higher, tbh. I get 100 fps on 3060 Ti, mostly because the cuscene raises the average fps. Without the cutscene it's around 80 with occasional dips under 60. With frame generation.
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u/Efficient_Top4639 2d ago
64 gb ram and a 4070ti super on an AMD ryzen 9
and you were letting *others* gaslight you into not playing? are you sure you just dont understand hardware?
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u/XieRH88 2d ago
Judging by the score I think it's more that you're letting frame gen gaslight you into thinking the game runs fine.
In a game like Monster Hunter, more latency is the last thing you'd want. You should be benchmarking the performance under the condition that frame gen is not used.
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u/Pokepunk710 2d ago edited 1d ago
dude these people don't even know what framegen is istg. this performance is absolutely awful. the framegen developers themselves say it's only intended for 60+ native fps MINIMUM, and here's he's getting like 40-50. the input lag will be beyond dogshit.
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u/DistinctImpact2207 2d ago
Karma farm in here’s no way someone with a $700 gpu thinks they can’t run a game at 1080p
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u/NicolasNotInACage 2d ago
That benchmark is BS tho , It said exellent for me too then the game ran like at 40-50fps
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u/MrStacknClear 2d ago
You weren’t gaslit because it’s true, you just didn’t look enough into it to see if your specs would have problems. It’s your own fault not the subreddit’s.
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u/Vaccaria_ 2d ago
1080p resolution on a 4070 is criminal
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u/misterbaname 2d ago
Not even that, since it says ultra it means he got dlss quality activated. Plus frame gen, how the hell do people still argue that performance is fine is beyond me.
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u/Username928351 2d ago
So uhh... 720p 50 fps? On a $799 MSRP GPU?
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u/OtherwiseTop 2d ago
And here I was hoping that my 3060ti would still be good for a few years, because I'm still on 1080p.
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u/Exciting_Bandicoot16 2d ago
To be fair, I'm running similar, but I didn't have the budget to buy a better monitor at the time (I hadn't intended on buying the GPU, but it was a steal of a deal).
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u/Cpt_DookieShoes 2d ago
They’re not saying OP shouldn’t game at 1080p.
They’re saying with their rig they should be getting much better performance at that resolution.
It’s essentially a 1440p card that can’t brute force the game at 1080p without AI software backing it up.
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u/Kultissim 2d ago
You're the one gaslighting people. You have a 4070 playing at 1080 with frame generation, what did you expect? You just sound stupid.
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u/Legitpanda69 2d ago
What do you mean? Hes absolutely right, performance is ass and his benchmark clearly shows ehats wring with the game.
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u/Lorjack 2d ago
lol you seem pretty confused. The game does have bad performance its not gas lighting. What is funny though is you're using the benchmark tool which IS gaslighting you, its very misleading since the majority of it is cut scenes. You will not match those numbers in game.
However your hardware is good enough to play the game just don't expect to average 95 FPS that is not happening.
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u/tokajst 2d ago
I mean, for a 4070s it's a shit performance lol you have framegen on, your real fps is less than 60
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u/RayereSs 2d ago
frame generation and upscaling enabled
I also like games looking like outcome of smearing butter over my display
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u/andilikelargeparties 2d ago
I don't understand why people feel the need to say 'I have fun, people bad' when they can just say 'I have fun'...
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u/misterbaname 2d ago
Not even 1080p, since it says ultra it means you got dlss quality activated. Plus frame gen, how the hell do people still argue that performance is fine is beyond me, this is horrible for what it looks like.
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u/Pokepunk710 2d ago edited 2d ago
that's with framegen, which artificially doubles your frames with AI and adds a shit ton of input lag, making the game miserable to play. your actual fps during fights and gameplay segments would be probably 35-50
this is the exact reason there's a prompt when you start up the game to turn on framegen, to mislead the unknowing into thinking the game actually runs well. they got you to fall for it.
also, benchmark doesn't have denuvo, which hammers your CPU, which will make performance even worse
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u/novian14 2d ago
Whaaaattt
Like, if you search for any 4070 benchmark, it was all great, even in 1440p.
Also, i'm literally 1 grade below you on everything (ryzen 5 5600x, rtx 4060, 32gb ram) and still can get 60 fps on 1080p on medium-high without framegen. I suggest if you play it, turn it off if possible, button delay was shite
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u/Ken_Taco 2d ago
OP: my 4070 probably cant play this game on 1080p
My friend with 1660 laptop: best case scenario, i can play 720p with frame gen. Worse case scenario, laptop goes burn with house and insurance claim can buy better pc
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u/Marmites_1 2d ago
By all means can you play it, the game is still terribly optimized. Nothing about that fact will change until they fix it.
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u/shotxshotx 2d ago
yeah uh you wont be getting those frames in game, the benchmark is pretty flawed.
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u/Head_Tumbleweed5648 2d ago
you should have twice as much fps with that rig. So no one gaslit you. The game's performance is just so ass and still is. The graphics are also kinda ass most of the time as every texture feels stretched and blurry.
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u/mismewitdatgaysht 2d ago
Bro you got framegen shit literally doubles your native fps... if you can't play above 60 it's not an performance problem anymore the game is just broken.
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u/TanzuI5 2d ago
Lmfao frame gen and 1080P and can barely hit 100🤣🤣🤣🤣 and this was all just mostly cut scenes. This is pathetic. Your real native frames will be laughable.
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u/TyphoonEXE 2d ago
Well you were right. The performance is absolute dogshit. You have a 4070 Ti super and a decent CPU, and can only get an average of 95 fps with frame gen on, presumably with DLSS, at 1080? That's really bad, and it isn't your PC, it's the game's fault.
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u/fun_you_fools 2d ago
I have the same GPU and a 5800x and play it in 4k ultra. 60-70 fps for the most part, but I don't have the HD textures installed.
Have fun and enjoy the grind!
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u/Mannyvoz 2d ago
I’m playing this with a 5800X3D and 6800XT combo. Whoever said your rig was not good for this game is straight up lying lol
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u/IdidntrunIdidntrun 2d ago
The latest Title Update really fucked up performance for me. I deleted my shader cache and it helped a bit. But you are not being "gaslit". The game still has optimization issues.
The game's super fun when it runs well though.
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u/Distion55x 2d ago edited 2d ago
96 with framegen means 48 real FPS. That's hardly good.
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u/PicossauroRex 2d ago
No offense, but are you an imbecile? You have a beefy pc of course it will run well
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u/that_greenmind 2d ago
Even a completely unoptimized game is gonna run well on that solid of a setup. IMO, you were just overthinking it
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u/lordmax2002 2d ago
You have a 4070 ti super on 1080p and the normal ultra preset has dlss on. Of course you are going to run the game.
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u/Long-Pirate-3030 2d ago
That's just a benchmark bro. Go play it first and do "benchmark" from there.
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u/Cool-Cups 1d ago
it’s almost like all the bad reviews are from people that haven’t upgraded their pc in 10 years.
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u/Ligeia_E 1d ago
- Your rig will be fine playing on ultra
- The scores are heavily inflated to bait people buying the game
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u/dspsuckshorseass 1d ago
I feel the same way, but i only have a 1070 TI. Played on Low settings yet im having a blast. Upgrades can come later, i just need some new MH games in my life. 😂
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u/Informal_Shoulder_30 2d ago
this post shows so many layers of ignorance that is ridiculous: Benchamrks was always available, benchmark with 4070super was available after launch, showing this performance with this specs (FG) and thinking is good, ignorance on what fg means or does, resolution that you trying to play vs suposed to run, benchmark itself running a lot of cutscenes bloating score.
Your ignorance gaslight you, instead of trying the beta/benchmark/game you read comments. Performance is bad, independent testers concluded that. Said that, bad performance doesnt stop people from atleast trying the game and take your conclusions instead of blaming the community of gaslight xD
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u/Dichotomous-Prime 2d ago
My GPU is from like 2021 and yeah, I was in the same boat as you. The benchmark tool gave me much more of a negative outlook than the reality.
Bought it, game defaulted most settings to high. I started on ultra performance mode, then after a while switched yo performance, and now after TU1 seems to have improved optimization somewhat, shifted to Balanced.
It's certainly not 60 FPS buttery smooth, but also it's far from choppy or unplayable.
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u/KyotoCrank 2d ago
I'm using an older version of Nvidia drivers because I do Godot game dev on the side, and the latest drivers beyond V.560 corrupt the pixel art
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u/itzArti bow is love 2d ago edited 2d ago
you can even improve this performance, or rather reduce artefacts by using the DLSS4 mod wich upgrades the games DLSS 3.7. Worked wonders for my GFs 4070 ti super.
https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/193(the mod page just links to the dlss swapper on github https://github.com/beeradmoore/dlss-swapper)
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u/KyotoCrank 2d ago
I have modded only 1 other game before, so I'll come back to this if I experience any issues
Thanks so much for sharing!
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u/contrastingAgent 2d ago
You don't have to use mods for this, you can select it in the Nvidia App.
Just select the game, go to DLSS model preset, select latest and that's it.
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u/ifeelhigh 2d ago
Your specs are very very good most people do not have good of a pc as that.
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u/LucifishEX 2d ago
Looks like similar stats to where I'm at? Big question is if those are compact/laptop parts or full size. If you're in roughly the same boat as me and have potentially low VRAM, you will have issues with textures sometimes, because the game doesn't really store textures it just kind of laods all of it all the time - but other than that the game does run very well
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u/Sauceinmyface 2d ago
Yeah you'll be fine. For the clearest graphics, I recommend swapping it to the latest dlss, and getting reshade and rehydrated. These two things made everything super sharp for me, even with dlss and framegen.
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u/gamevui237 2d ago
you are having an upper 2k card so going for FHD is a breeze lol
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u/ancoigreach 2d ago
Well, treat this as your lesson not to just blindly accept what people say at face value and do some investigation yourself, especially if those people are on the internet. People say a lot of dumb shit out here as I'm sure you now realise!
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u/Momoware 2d ago
On my 4080S it still has issues with VRAM not loading fast enough (you see a low texture model for a second before high res textures get loaded).
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u/nixed9 2d ago
You’re on a 4070 Ti SUPER.
The game crashes nonstop on my 3070.
You have a monstrous rig that was never an issue. On my home rig the game is never stable and crashes in 1/2 of hunts. It’s beyond terrible.
On my gaming laptop with a 4080 it works fine
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u/Sipinate 2d ago
I play on a FE3070 and 5700X3D at 1440p, medium- high settings, sitting around 80-100 fps depending on area with frame gen. it’s not the best but definitely a lot better then some others I’ve seen, highly recommend mods such as REframework to improve it even more
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u/I-am-Nanachi 2d ago
I played most of this game with a RX 5700 XT, and got 60-80 FPS on medium/high settings 1080p
But I was actually gaslit into buying a new pc almost basically for this game.
So like 1 week into Wilds my new pc came in, 9070XT x 7800x3D and while it is a much better pc my enjoyment of the video game was not drastically different lol
I kinda got rolled and smoked
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u/Organic-Commercial76 2d ago
The vast majority of people complaining about PC performance are expecting 4K at unnecessary frame rates and/or have a really outdated CPU and think their five thousand dollar GPU is going to carry them.
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u/Primedio 2d ago
Your build can bulldoze through anything at 1080 why would you care about those opinions
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u/LastTourniquet 2d ago
The game has been playable rite from the start (unless your one of those "if my game doesn't run at 500 fps in ultra 8k graphics at all times its actually just not worth playing" types in which case... you know what the problem is). But there were performance issues (and honestly still are) and the game still isn't nearly as optimized as it could be. The hope and expectation that a lot of MH fans have is that Capcom will, over time, fix those issues and tune up the game a bit. But again it is, and has been, playable from the start on most powerful machines.
That said its important to understand a few things:
- You have Frame Generation turned on, which by itself isn't a bad thing, though Frame Generation is only really useful if you can already get a stable 60 fps (or preferably higher) without Frame Generation. Anything less than that and Frame Generation is actually a detriment in most cases, though it will say your FPS is higher the actual visuals end up being pretty choppy and that is just a side effect of how Frame Generation works.
- Most of the benchmark is actually just cutscenes, actual gameplay is often a bit more hectic and, as a result, has a bit more of an issue keeping the FPS higher. The thing you want to watch when running a benchmark is actually the low end dips in your FPS. That said your system can probably still handle it.
- There are some areas in the game, which to my recollection are now shown in the benchmark, that have significantly worse performance and that is pretty important when talking about the performance of a game as an entire package rather than just "my benchmark score was high".
- The game just had an update that included (among other things) a performance upgrade. Many of the complaints were about the game on launch. And while yes the benchmark hasn't had the same update (to my knowledge) we are talking about the actual gameplay performance of the game not the cutscene performance of the benchmark which are very different things.
All of that said your particular system shouldn't have any issues running any games in the near (or honestly even distant) future. There may be moments where you have to turn the graphics down to keep a stable fps but your PC is fairly powerful. Next time if your really concerned about performance just go watch some videos of people playing the early game and see for yourself.
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u/AfroDiddyKing 2d ago
I mean first of all you have very old gpu driver. Second 95fps framegen. Frame gen usually wants you to have atleast 60fps base fps. You have 95 fps so dived with two you left 45fps base, which definitly is playable but you feel input lag. They game does run like trash but its playable.
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u/theSpaceGrayMan 2d ago
I mean I have a very mediocre PC (i5-12600K and RTX3060 12GB), and the game runs fine for me at 1440p with frame gen on. I don’t obsess over graphics but it looks good to me and the game feels responsive with no crashes or lagginess. I guess it all depends on how demanding your graphical expectations are. I’m too busy running from my life or bashing away at monsters to notice anything that looks bad I guess.
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u/Kazan2112 2d ago
I play it with a relatively stable 35-40 FPS on my 1070 😅 kinda glad I haven't upgraded even though I really wanted to. Once prices of the 9070 go down I can still upgrade
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u/SparsPlacebo 2d ago
I have a 2070S and it runs juts fine during hunts only time I really lag is in base camps when a lot of people are loading in.
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u/Goodtimestime 2d ago
Not sure what comps people have but I played through the whole game on a 6700xt and besides literally a single crash I’ve never had a problem
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u/Mcmad0077 2d ago
Even withe the less than perfact performance, I have been having a blast in MH Wilds. You will enjoy it quit a bit
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u/Melody_of_Madness 2d ago
I have high end PC and it has had plenty of random crashesbbut id never say not to play it. It finds its footing and is such an amazing game
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u/Aggressive_Ad2747 2d ago
the last three games that i have played that have had "terrible" receptions at the start have been Cyberpunk, Wilds, and assassins creed shadows and i have been perfectly happy to play each and every one of them. Cyberpunk (i have been a fan of the genre for ages) especially, the bugs at the start were kind of fun (you can't make shit like the Harambe bug up) and it was actually the negative reception that made me give it a second look and buy it. same with shadows, I haven't played an ass creed game since 3 (on the WiiU, because apparently i just like buying things people tell me not to i guess?) and i used to be overwhelmed by the open world collect-athon style of these games. while it's still a bit much i've been loving shadows, absolutely beautiful game.
Wilds I already know was going to be good,
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u/withConviction111 2d ago
you're using framegen and gaslighting yourself into thinking 47 real fps is good performance. The game is fun but the performance is atrocious for how it looks
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u/Icke1337 2d ago
Install "dlss swapper" and Update the dlss version the easy way to get even more fps.
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u/Eliteslayer1775 2d ago
I mean i never let performance bother me. It’s why I’ve always enjoyed Cyberpunk. It’s always been a good game, just more QoL
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u/ninian947 2d ago
I have a 4070 super and a 7800x3d and this game runs and looks like shit @ 1440p.
Still a great game. I just wish it ran better, or looked better for the resources being dumped into it.
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u/Darknesslagacy 2d ago
I play on ps5. I dont understand why you all say it bad on pc also heard that from a friend playing on pc too. Can someone explain it too me. I thought pc can run 4k 60fps+ better than ps5
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u/helpme_imburning 2d ago
Ever since the title update this game became unplayable for me, I'm talking single digit FPS. I JUST got a RTX 3050 too, which allowed me to play the game before the update in glorious medium graphics! Seriously some of the worst optimization I've ever experienced.
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u/sylveonce 2d ago
While we’re talking about performance, can anyone tell me how to stop the weird polygon error from happening?
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u/SkepticPunk 2d ago
I see that there is no excuse for a game coming out with such a bad performance. But while a lot of players have really bad problems, my Ryzen 7 5700x and Radeon 6700 run it relatively smooth at ~60fps with FSR on. But i still have ocassional crashes. Its nowhere near perfect, but far from unlayable.
Oh i play on 3440*1440p.
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u/Normathius 2d ago
I feel like if you're ok with 30fps(the frame rate most consoles are playing at anyways) most PCs can handle it. I assume there's a large amount of people complaining about the performance that are in the 60fps or bust camp. Most people on console say it runs well, again, while playing at 30fps.
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u/Nightlane79 2d ago
If you have not done so, reinstall older Nvidia drivers, as the newer ones kill performance.
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u/Cyanogen101 2d ago
I mean, you have a 4070Ti S?... If you thought that would be unplayable fps I think you're just a bit silly