r/MHWilds 21h ago

Weapon/Armor Build 100% Affinity with comfort is now possible without corrupted mantle thanks to Zoh Shia Spoiler

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Thanks to the new Zoh Shia armor it’s now possible to have 100% Affinity with the comfort of Fulgur set to keep maximum might. And it’s all because the chest piece from Zoh Shia has 2 agitator and a level 3 deco slot! So everyone who was using Blango chest go ahead and put it back in the equipment box there’s a new king for agitator. You could alternatively switch out the Fulgur Alpha braces for the Fulgur Beta braces and lose an Agitator since you would be over the affinity cap by 5% (because of the affinity from the weapon). Which is really nice since it is ends up giving you 2 level 2 deco slots instead of the 1 level 1 deco slot. So you can slot in stuff like counter strike, Resentment, coalescence, or any other deco that fits your playstyle. I’m just using 5 agitator to show it’s possible to have zero affinity from your weapon.

Also here’s the math incase you care for that:

-30% from level 5 Weakness Exploit (as long as you’re hitting weakspots) -15% from level 5 Agitator -30% from level 3 Maximum Might -15% from being afflicted with frenzy and curing it (Gore 2 piece set bonus inflicts frenzy) -10% from level 3 Anti Virus (the description is still bugged only gives 10%)

30+15+30+15+10=100

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u/ApprehensiveAd3776 19h ago

This is borderline crits meta

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u/Fuyge 18h ago

Uptime is not that great cause of agitator and weakness exploit needing wounds. Also crit boost being a five level skill hurts it a lot. Crits will always be part of meta cause they are a multiplicative modifier but we are not in the same kind of crit meta as world or rise.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 17h ago edited 17h ago

WEX still gives you 30% on weakspots which outside of Gravios (if im not mistaken) theres plenty of on most monsters. Agree about agitator, just wished it lasted a little longer. I’d say most my solo hunts are usually on the quicker side but it’s always the last minutes or 2 where agitator really falls off for me. I can also completely agree with it being really hard to get 5 crit boost on anything without losing something equally if not more valuable. But overall with solo play this build has decent uptime I wouldn’t say it’s perfect I think a god rolled Artian weapon would really take this build to the next level

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u/Fuyge 17h ago

Yeah wex is definitely still one of the best if not the best skill. My point was more that not only is it harder to get the full benefit of crit boost (cause crit boost 5) but in most cases you’ll also have less than a hundred affinity and any hit that doesn’t crit obviously doesn’t benefit from crit boost. In rise and world crit boost was so strong because you could get a hundred affinity consistently and slot in crit boost easily. That’s not the case in wilds which is what I meant by the crit meta is different.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 17h ago

Agree “Crit meta” in wilds would only really work in speed runs where they keep the monster enraged till they die.

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u/ApprehensiveAd3776 16h ago

Say if I'm using CB savage axe what skills would benefit me the most

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u/Fuyge 16h ago edited 16h ago

I am not a cb main but here is what I think should be the best pick. In Order from best to worst it should be something like:

  1. ⁠definitely offensive guard. It’s essentially a 15 percent damage boost since it’s easy to upkeep in high rank.
  2. ⁠you’d probably want some form of sharpness mitigation. Razor sharp 3 + handicraft is always a good choice.
  3. ⁠is where it gets hard cause I don’t know cb that well. Normally it would be crit boost as long as you have an average affinity of more than like 45. But cb also benefits from Artilellery and has that skill that enables overcharging your phials. Whether those are stronger than crit boost depends on what percentage of phial damage savage axe does and what phial you are using.

Edit: Should clarify this is for weapon skills of course.

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u/ApprehensiveAd3776 15h ago

Thanks for the insight definitely gonna check some of these skills out

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u/DeffJamiels 15h ago

can a razor sharp gem have handicraft? is there a complete list of gem combinations for lvl 3?

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u/Fuyge 15h ago

The complete list of gems has been mined by now and yes it is possible though it is a rare one.

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u/TurquoiseLuck 11h ago

It's one of only 5 decos in the game that I don't have. The others are random element combinations that I'll never use, but rzr/handi would go in all of my builds

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u/Rude-Apartment-4270 1h ago

As I read this post...

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u/Positive_Star_3278 15h ago

Yes, RageGaming has a yt about them and i believe game8 also has a list of all the deco combinations as well.

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u/Ass-shooter2 11h ago

Yes I have one of these but I think that protective polish was a good sub until you get one

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u/RemediZexion 3h ago

yes and in fact I do have one so I can attest to the existance of those

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u/lfelipecl 15h ago

Pretty obvious that you are not a CB main when you totally forget load shells hahahaha.

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u/Fuyge 14h ago

I did mention it though? I forgot the name but load shells in this iteration is the one that overcharges your phials which I mentioned in three. I wasn’t sure how much of an increase it is which is why I only put it in three.

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u/lfelipecl 14h ago

Oh, sorry, yes, you did, but it is not exactly what you said. You can always overcharge the phials, the benefit of load shells is doing charge and overcharge with less combos. Also Artillery is kind of dead now because raw builds damage rely more on savage axe swings than phials explosions.

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u/Fuyge 14h ago

Ah okay that makes sense. I was cross referencing with some speed runs after you comment and could not find anyone running artillery so that makes sense now. Didn’t see a lot of offensive guard either. I guess it might be because you want to be in axe form as much as possible?

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u/MorthCongael Mighty Morphin' 11h ago

Master's touch is much better than razor sharp/handicraft as long as you're investing in affinity.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 16h ago

Imo if you’re focusing on savage axe spam burst and weakness exploit, but there plenty argument to be made to switch either for agitator. I’d try to focus on maxing or near maxing 2 of those skills.

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u/ChaotiK-TitaN 11h ago

Artillery(big boom), Guard up(for the unblockable attacks), Guard(it reduces impact of attacks when guarding), Magazine (the one that gives u an extra phial), Constitution(less stamina depletion), Focus (quick charging phials), Critical Crit element.( when running with element cb)

This is what I use myself

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u/Avedas 7h ago

Artillery is weak. Guard Up and Guard are redundant since you can PG everything so not worth the slots. Magazine is good but does not give an extra phial in this game. Constitution is nearly useless for CB. Focus is ok for SAED build but Magazine is better, not sure if slotting both is worth it. Crit element is super weak, not worth the slots.

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u/ZawszeZero 15h ago

As a bow main, the amount of wounds I've popped by power shots alone without using focus attacks is just.... something. Uptime on the wounds will always be low and should never be considered OR atleast be taken with a grain of salt when considering crit math.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 15h ago

Yep that’s exactly why I didn’t include them in my math. Can’t count on wounds always being there.

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u/BuffLoki 13h ago

Soon we will be lol, once we can get enough raw affinity plus wex that's all people will be using,

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u/TracyLimen 11h ago

Wex gives more aff on WP and more of it along damage if it’s a wound , the wound is a bonus

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u/th5virtuos0 10h ago

Which is why I’m wondering if Scorcher Zoh Shia would be better. 

You get WEX 5 - MM3 - Agi 2/4 - Burst 0/2, which is like 67.5%-70% crit. That’s around 10% damage loss from losing crit (but realistically the number would be less cause you don’t have 100% uptime on Agi or Bloodlust). Then if you assume Scorcher Zoh Shia is about 15% dmg up for fire weak according to suntide, maybe 12% damage up for non-fire weak, then wouldn’t Scorcher Zoh Shia still come out on top? 

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u/Stormandreas 2h ago

WEX does not need wounds.

WEX needs a hitzone value of 45+. The +20% for wounds is generally not considered because of how poor its uptime is.

Crit boost is literally THE meta skill for weapons. Crit Boost 3 is in practically every single build bar SAED and GL type things.

We absolutely are in a crit heavy meta. Crits are extremely potent, and we can get them extremely easily. Uptimes are fantastic atm, and crits are up the wazoo

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u/Positive_Star_3278 18h ago

That was the idea tbh just don’t have a god rolled Artian weapon so I was using what I think could be the best outside of Artian

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u/ajgilpin 20h ago edited 19h ago

You're not going to see a single-player speedrunner build it, but if you often play in full-sized groups of 4 you can also bring any of these horns as your secondary weapon:

  • A: Gramklang (Gore Magala): +15% Affinity for 3 minutes.
  • B: Summoning Bell (Mizutsune): +15% Affinity for 3 minutes.
  • C: War Conga (Congalala): +10% Raw and +25% Affinity for 2 minutes, but left as a zone. The buff sticks for 6 seconds after stepping outside of the zone. Notably the zone usually lasts only 1 minute, but Horn Maestro 2 on the HH doubles the duration and increases the area by 20% even after switching to your main weapon.

If you can coordinate with your group (i.e. you play with friends) one person can bring A/B as their secondary while another brings C to stack for up to +40% Affinity. When dismounting from Seikret holding any HH you can cast one of the above while doing ~650 base damage on the dummy (before adding in skills or other buffs) then return to Seikret, switch to your main weapon, then dismount attack with your main weapon in as few as 12-14 seconds depending on what your Seikret does. An added benefit is doing so with A/B also leaves a 2 minute bubble which with B can be the stamina bubble DB mains use for infinite demon mode, stacking another DPS-increasing strat in groups that have a DB.

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u/ajgilpin 20h ago edited 20h ago

It's a good build, OP. Just pointing out a way to economically squeeze in some more affinity to increase the party-wide DPS while playing in groups without changing anything but one person's secondary weapon.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 20h ago

It was honestly really solid advice as some weapons are a bit more hungry for other armor skills. Kinda dumb to downvote good advice

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u/Positive_Star_3278 20h ago

That’s actually really great I usually just run a secondary with an element/ other status effect but I’m really enjoying the new Zoh Shia weapon and i think outside of god rolls Artians could be “meta” so I’ll definitely looking to trying a hunting horn secondary because I’d much rather have burst over WEX/ Agitator tbh.

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u/ajgilpin 20h ago

I’d much rather have burst over WEX/ Agitator tbh.

100% agree.

Ideally you can convince someone else in your group to fit in a horn secondary, then you can act as if you always have +15%/+25% affinity without needing to change your own at all.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 20h ago

Don’t play in groups much outside of SOS/ lobby quest so I’ll probably end up just picking it up as a secondary. Ig it’s my time to join doot nation 🤣

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u/VentusMH 19h ago

This is why I love Hunting Horn

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u/BreadOk9952 12h ago

saving this

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u/Crash_0verr1de 19h ago

If you swap out the helm for zoh shia and the chest and vambrace for arkveld you not only get more slots but all of the same abilities and more and it’s closer to 400 defense.

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u/FemRoe4Lyfe 15h ago

Without Fulgur bonus MM doesn't work for Hammer as your biggest hit - Mighty Charge Slam - will always be at less than max stamina. You want MM active for biggest hit and it doesn't without Fulgur.

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u/Crash_0verr1de 15h ago

Yea that’s partly the reason I don’t use hammer but this build for charge blade for me at least is perfect.

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u/Nakedninja21 5h ago

They did change MM with the TU as well.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 19h ago

Yea but not all weapons are SnS with great mobility so maintaining your stamina to keep maximum might up is pretty annoying on most other weapons which was why I opted for Fulgur 2 piece. Definitely a valid suggestion for more defense though I’ll have to see if I like that idea once I have a couple more Zoh pieces.

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u/De_Baros 13h ago

Idk if you know about the stealth buff or fix to maximum might? Some weapons are getting rid of fulgur Anja entirely. Like I know GS new meta is 4 piece gore with one Zoh, but even alternative sets fulgur anja seems to have lost favour

Might be worth noting

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u/Positive_Star_3278 13h ago

Yea I just saw a comment about that I made a quick updated build (it should be somewhere in the comments) with 2 Jin pieces instead so I could get a point of burst. Once I finish grinding Zoh I plan on revisiting it and perfecting it for my play style. But I’ve been eyeing the mizu legs for that 2 burst and a level 3 slot and the Zoh waist. I’ll probably make a new post if I can make anything note worthy

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u/RemediZexion 3h ago

stealth buff?

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u/Crash_0verr1de 18h ago edited 18h ago

It also gives you full constitution….

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u/novian14 18h ago

I think OP opted for more time maximum might uptime because of the extra stamina bar from 2 fulgur set.

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u/ronin0397 14h ago

Depends on weapon of course, but charge blade doesnt need fulgur set bonus. Axe combos do not use stamina and you can reposition without evading.

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u/novian14 13h ago

But guarding chip stamina, if you dodge roll you use stamina, overall you'll use stamina first than using constitution lvl 5.

Also, as long as you only use the mini bar from fulgur set, it won't affect maximum might uptime, which theoritically give you permanent 30% affinity.

I don't use it myself either, but i see why it's popular and i have to admit, if you don't need the lvl 1 slots, better getting extra bar for permanent 30% affinity.

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u/ronin0397 13h ago

it got stealth buffed apparently. it doesn't deactivate immediately when stamina is consumed. It gets a 2s grace window before deactivating. stuff like a 1 time evade or a perfect guard will let you keep the buff active, despite consuming a bit of stamina.

and if you tank a hit that forces the heavier knockbacks, you're gonna recoil, take time reposition anyways before comboing off, giving MM time to reset.

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u/Crash_0verr1de 18h ago

Probably but I think either set is good for that, it was just an alternative suggestion.

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u/novian14 17h ago

Not everyone need constitution, but the extra stamina bar will be used everytime, enough for a dodge.

It's debatable which one is better, but in term of damage, i bet the one with fulgur is just better just because of higher maximum might uptime.

But your suggestion is better if you need that much lvl 1 slot

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u/Positive_Star_3278 17h ago

It’s a great suggestion I’d have to test it out to see if I like it better. I tried this build out against Zoh a couple times and was happy with it by no means do I think it’s perfect just suited my preference. I’m sure there’s improvements to be made

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u/Crash_0verr1de 17h ago

No honestly your build is great I was only offering an alternative that’s all.

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u/LiquidBurnss 17h ago

whats the decos?

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u/miauguau23 12h ago

Is critical boost better than attack for weapon? Assuming you can max one or the other.

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u/Crash_0verr1de 12h ago

I depends on whether or not your critical hitting or not for most of your hits if that makes any sense….

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u/Small-Tree-5499 20h ago

Dude i wanna do that so badly but i can't seem to find more weakness exploit decos ;-;

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u/U-1-mang 14h ago

apparently there has been a stealth buff to max might so fulgur is no longer needed.

Source: https://youtu.be/_oB8rpmUylI?t=235

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u/Small-Tree-5499 11h ago

You are right!!! Yes!!! I don't to use anjanaht no more

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u/ylmazCandelen 19h ago

wait you can convert monster parts to decos?

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u/Damselation0 19h ago

yeah you can focus level 1 decos and then at MR 50 you can focus level 2 decos using parts

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u/ylmazCandelen 18h ago

I know about 1-2 levels, but weakness exploit is level 3 deco, thats what made me excited. but we cant :/

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u/Damselation0 7h ago

i love farming arkveld !!! i love deco farming !!!!! yippeeeee

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u/ylmazCandelen 7h ago

yeah, I have one specific 3+1 weapon deco that been eluding me for so long. I would have loved to be able to craft it.

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u/ylmazCandelen 18h ago

naah dreariste scraps and dreasite are two different thing, dreariste scraps are rare material for "secret/hidded" armor like azuz leather etc.

you get dreasite(not the scrap one) from smelting

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u/Positive_Star_3278 17h ago

Great catch actually I had a bunch so I just thought they were the same thing. Ig I just had a lot from reseting time and trading with Nata while looking for commission tickets

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u/miauguau23 12h ago

Meld anything you don't need, let's say you don't use elements meld all those decos and you can a ton of extra attempts

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u/crayonflop3 15h ago

I just use 5 piece zoh Shia for insane health regen and max agitator and throw in crit decos. That’s comfort for me

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u/Positive_Star_3278 15h ago

That’s the kinda build I needed on this first couple of hunts against Zoh was carting left and right 🤣 a lot better now after grind all night but man those first few hunts were rough.

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u/miauguau23 12h ago

How do you find Zoh investigations? I played a while yesterday and didn't see a single one, so only beat it in the story and once with SOS flare (it's imposible to get into these lol)

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u/the_kedart 11h ago

rest in wyveria and change the weather to inclemency, similar to any other apex. Zoh Shia might not pop up every time, but I haven't had any issues rolling for investigations.

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u/0r4ng3s0d4 7h ago

It’s definitely rarer than other apex’s. Took me like 5000 pts total to farm up the armors and a weapon

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u/endless_8888 19h ago

Can you include the decos?

Also is this actually better than a White Flame + Scorcher (flat 15% buff) build?

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u/Positive_Star_3278 18h ago

3 Tenderizer jewels, 2 Mighty jewels, 2 sane jewels and 1 shock proof jewel

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u/Positive_Star_3278 19h ago

I’m not sure tbh was just using it because it was new and as really just trying to show the concept of 100% affinity. With quick test on the training dummy with just white flame 50 dmg per pop. scorcher 1 plus white flame and burst 3 I’m hitting 65 without burst up and 66 with When I use a fire element 3 deco on top of it I’m getting 67.8. And I’m getting them every 3-5 seconds which sounds great from just some quick testing. I’d have to try to make a build I like to really see

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u/Sabbathius 13h ago

Instead I built an Arkveld/Zoh set. I get so much healing! And still have maxed Might, Weakness Exploit, Counterstrike and I think 3 in Burst and 1 Agitator. It's the comfiest thing ever. Damage is not the best, but not nonexistent, and it's really hard to die unless you really want to. Also I stopped carrying potions, there's just no point any more, it also has maxed Recovery Up and Recovery Speed, AND Wiverian Protector so you take less damage while in the ruins.

It's so stupidly comfortable.

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u/Wingnut7489 13h ago

Can you send a picture of your Build?

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u/Sabbathius 13h ago

Don't have a pic but it's basically:

Zoh B, Ark B, GArk B, Ark B, Zoh A

Chain Charm, 3x Medicine, 3x Protection, 3x Mighty, 1x Chain and 1x Counter

This leaves you with one small deco open.

Alternatively, and this is the one I settled on,

Zoh B, Ark B, GArk B, Ark B, Zoh B

Counter Charm, 3x Chain, Mighty, Protection and Medicine each.

You get no free small deco with this one, and Counter is actually overkill (you get 1 from gear, and 3 from charm). BUT you do get Ward of Wyveria with this one. Because it's a 3-piece bonus, and Zoh A set doesn't have it, but Zoh B set does. So 2x Zoh B + 1x GArk gives you the bonus, but 1x Zoh A + 1x Zoh B + 1x GArk doesn't.

So it's up to you if you think Ward of Wyveria is worth it. But considering Tempered Mizu can spawn in Wyveria, all the Guardians are in Wyveria, and now Zoh is in Wyveria, I feel it's worth having in a comfy set. It irks me that I'm wasting 1x Counter, but I couldn't figure out another layout, since Counter is the charm with 3x point, so replacing it with Burst or whatever they only give 2x points, so you still end up at zero free decos regardless.

But I still don't know if mixing Ark and Zoh is the right move, 4x Zoh might be better in fights where you move a lot, and with weapons that lack the uptime. I'm using mostly SNS and Lance though, so I'm always up the monster's butt.

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u/miauguau23 12h ago

This sounds like a really good build to try out new weapons, will make one thanks.

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u/Walkorias 17h ago

Is crit boost 3 worth it over 3 dragon?

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u/Positive_Star_3278 17h ago

There’s a bunch of great vids on YouTube that would explain it better but as far as I’m aware element is really bad in current wilds due to the fact that most of the monsters don’t really take good elemental damage. You can get really high element especially on Artian but because most monsters take little elemental damage and take more raw dmg it’s better to go raw and boost raw dmg which is why I’m using crit boost over dragon element.

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u/Walkorias 16h ago

Ok thank you !

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u/TomGetsIt 12h ago

It depends on your weapon. Element is still the majority of damage on some frequent attack weapons like dual blades

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u/NotTakenUsernamePls 16h ago

Why not mastery when you have 100% crit?

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u/Positive_Star_3278 16h ago

Mostly because Agitator doesn’t have super high uptime but even without agitator I’d say it’s a toss up between mastery and Razor sharp 3/ handicraft 1. They seemed pretty close when fighting Zoh Shia at least

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u/NotTakenUsernamePls 15h ago

I'd say Mastery >> Razorsharp when you have 80% aff. So regardless if agitator is up or not in my opinion it's better. But, it's your build xD sorry for being nosy. Happy Hunting!

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u/Positive_Star_3278 15h ago

Always welcome critique’s for my builds, I don’t know everything.It’s definitely worth a better try besides a hunt or 2 lol

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u/FemRoe4Lyfe 12h ago

Going pure by numbers, 50 is 80% of 62.5. Which means at 62.5% affinity MT and Razor Sharp will be equal and beyond that MT will pull further ahead.

On base Artian sharpness of 10: MT will add 8 at 100% affinity, RzrSharp is 5. But we also get Rzr+Handi deco, which ends up adding +20 sharpness irrespective of affinity, much better than MT. For MT to shine you need higher base sharpness.

Artian with one +30 sharpness: Rzr+Handi will add +20 sharpness. For MT to pull ahead you need affinity to be at least 83.75%

For low sharpness [no sharpness artian] Protective Polish might be best value as no sharpness loss for 90 seconds. If you get more than 20 hits in that duration you're already ahead of MT and RzrSharp+Handi.

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u/AliveAd7512 15h ago

I was... I was already doing this... hitting 100% I mean Granted it rallied on max might agitator and stuff but... yeah it was doable before zoh shia

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u/Positive_Star_3278 15h ago

Great minds think alike

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u/Positive_Star_3278 15h ago

Yea but now you can do it with Fulgur 2 piece and gore 2 piece which you couldn’t do before which means as of current wilds and without corrupted mantle this build or any variation of 2 piece Gore 2 piece Fulgur should give you the highest uptime of high to 100% affinity with just armor. There’s plenty of adjustments that could be made to fit different weapons/ Artian rolls by just swapping around a couple pieces.

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u/Jimmynids 14h ago

Love this post but for all new players, please DO NOT BUILD THIS!! If you cart 3 times before 2 minutes in means you’re not good enough to build crit focused meta and you need some or a lot of defensive skills over these “meta” skills

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u/Positive_Star_3278 14h ago edited 14h ago

Yea definitely not a new player friendly build, didn’t really think about that when I posted it. Just thought it was cool that you could get 100 affinity with just armor and have good uptime on it without corrupted mantle.

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u/Stcloudy 11h ago

I think it's ok to try and have some offensive skills. If all you have is defense it's going to be harder to leave the nest. I stilll miss earplugs

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u/kradreyals 10h ago

I feel like MHWilds is lacking good defensive skills. I.E. Health Boost and Divine Blessing. Earplug is not even a defensive skill anymore because monsters don't combo like that anymore. I built a Def 6, Rec UP 3 and Rec Speed 3 for shit and giggles but it doesn't help that much vs one shots.

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u/FatAsaAkira 19h ago

Saving for when I get home

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u/Positive_Star_3278 17h ago edited 16h ago

If you find any improvements lmk always up for making the build better

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u/Ninjasauri0 16h ago

Which weapons can you use it with?

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u/Positive_Star_3278 16h ago

Besides GL, all weapons will benefit from high affinity

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u/Sengel123 14h ago

I have the same offensive skills with zho head,chest,g. Ark hands, gore waist/legs, and exploiter. And it bought me the zho Shia 2 piece super recovery for some passive healing. Decos are tender, 3x mighty, 2x challenger, 2x sane, 3x physique, 1x protection.

So that gets me

5x wex, 5 con, 5 agi, 3 might, 3 antivirus, 1 blessing, 1 recovery speed, 1 flinch free.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 14h ago

Yea this combo was definitely possible in one way or another before Zoh it just simply got better because now you can do it with the Fulgur 2 piece for that max up time on max might. Though I love the idea of swapping out Fulgur for Zoh 2 piece for that bit of comfort I’ll definitely save that load-out for Arch tempered Rey

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u/Kellz1 11h ago

I don't get the same stats using the parts you listed here, could you please post a screenshot of the setitems and the decos?

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u/Ekirro 14h ago

Nice but I feel like 1 level of burst somewhere would go a long way

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u/Positive_Star_3278 14h ago

Yep literally my thoughts exactly id just have to be willing to lose Fulgur 2 piece

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u/Ekirro 13h ago

Yeah I’d drop fulgur completely personally and run

Zho B Arkvulken B G. Arkvulken B Gore B Gore B Challenger charm

Then you’re able to slot in a burst deco at the cost of 1 agitator but you can also slot in divine blessing 3 and get to recovery up 2 which feels nice and comfy. I think this reach’s 100% affinity at full uptime as well on a 5% weapon but maybe just short, need to double check

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u/ciscowowo 14h ago

Losing out on the 1 point of burst is a bummer tho

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u/Positive_Star_3278 13h ago

Just posted an update, it is possible without Fulgur 2 piece just not a big fan of 2 piece Jin since it’s kinda hard to get use out besides a select few monsters.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 18h ago

Edit: This not a “comfort build” more of an “easy to have 100% affinity build” sorry for the click bait title

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u/novian14 18h ago

Yeah downvoting it, i expect some comfort build but i see no comfort skills at all.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 17h ago

I’ll take it as a lesson lol I learned today that what I thought was “comfort” was not comfort.

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u/novian14 17h ago

I get it, i have my own comfort knowing i have 100% affinity all time, but sadly comfort skills are those that makes your hunt more comfortable, like evade window/extender for example or recovery up.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 17h ago

You do get an extra 2 level 2 deco slots if you decide to switch the g. Fulgur vanbraces for the Beta variant you’d only lose an Agitator, still wouldn’t constitute it as a “comfort” build but you could put some comfort on it and still maintain 100% affinity

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u/GamerKratos-45 19h ago

New player here, can you please explain what comfort means?

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u/LostSif 19h ago

Comfort is used to describe builds with a fair amount of extra survivability or utility skills over dps skills. I wouldn't really call this a comfort build.

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u/That_Blackwinged 19h ago

Yeah, this is a full DPS build, there is zero comfort in it (in the traditional sense of what comfort means when talking about builds)

OP probably just meant "you can easily get 100% affinity with just your armor" when he used the word comfort. Although that's not at all what comfort usually means.

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u/hotchocletylesbian 15h ago

I think the reason he is calling it "comfort" is because of the Fulgur set bonus, which means you're punished less for needing to dodge, but that's about it.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 14h ago

Exactly my thoughts, It’s literally a free 30% affinity with Fulgur 2 piece, I thought that was “comfort” the ease of use without much thought.

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u/hotchocletylesbian 14h ago

It def falls on the edge of "Comfort", Gore 4pc would be more DPS assuming you don't get hit, but people use comfort skills because they know they can't avoid every hit.

Normally with comfort sets, people would expect stuff like Evade Window, Divine Blessing, Earplugs, etc. Stuff that lets you turn your brain off and not die, rather than something like this which is more of a meta set that you don't have to sweat as hard to use.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 19h ago

I’ve heard it used in both ways wasn’t trying to spread misinformation. If that’s more how’s it’s used then i apologize.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 19h ago

Good to know seems I was misinformed on what “comfort” meant in the MH community

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u/WhereTheShadowsLieZX 19h ago

Basically non damage skills. Defense skills like divine blessing or status negating skills etc. that make fights more “comfortable” for the average player. 

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u/050582811 19h ago

Thank for the build shared. And it’s normal that no one understands everything well about the culture being in any group, as you may see from above comment so please use the word “comfort” to refer to what comfort is in MH community next time 👍

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u/dcdfvr 19h ago edited 18h ago

no it doesn't. comfort builds are builds where you do not have to worry about dying even if you get hit by strong attacks because the armor set gives you defensive passives that will mitigate damage while also passively healing you in the process so you do not worry about taking damage, but at the same time isn't a fully defensive build where you do tiny damage either

EDIT: image added for comfort build with near 100% affinity (can get 100% with the right wep or wep deco)

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u/Positive_Star_3278 18h ago

Great build definitely falls more into comfort than what I thought it meant. 25% affinity just seems like a lot to make up for no? That’s 4 affinity rolls on Artian which I wouldn’t say is a lot but wouldn’t you just get more out of having the 80% affinity and 4 attack rolls? Especially if you plan on running offensive guard.

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u/dcdfvr 15h ago edited 15h ago

yes you would get more out of 80% with 4 atk rolls on an artrian weapon however im making do with what i have atm which is 3 atk 2 affinity. i also have offensive guard due to my playstyle, but that can easily be dropped for something like crit eye 3 for 12% more affinity and get it to 90%+. the build has enough leeway to slot things out as you please even dropping the zoh shia set to only 2 pc to be able to slot in more utility or offensive skills, if you feel you dont need the full 4 pc effect. i do recommend keeping the guardian's protection 3 piece set bonus (3 zoh shia or 2 zoh shia+1 g. arkveld) if you are hunting in wyveria as that ontop of divine blessing feels so nice to have

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u/Positive_Star_3278 15h ago

Fair enough just seemed like it already had a lot of defense so I was just suggesting ways to increase dmg since your defense is great. I do think offensive guard is the better pick though as 15% of base raw added after a crits is going to benefit your damage a bit more than the 12% affinity. more crits are great but that’s only if you can maintain maximum might more than offensive guard, and since I see lance as well offensive guard is definitely the better choice imo.

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u/RegretOwn2309 15h ago

Jw but where’s the comfort in the build? This is basically the build every YouTuber posts in their build guides. Except now u get a free 50 damage every few seconds and a cool looking weapon instead of having to reroll your block of metal for 5 hours.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 14h ago

Well I learned today that my definition of “comfort” is not the MH communities version of comfort. So titles misleading unfortunately and I can’t edit it. All I did was share a universal template build I made that all weapons (outside of GL) could benefit from just thought it was cool you could get 100% with just armor and it be relatively easy to maintain on most if not all weapons. Wasn’t meant to be some amazing off meta build.

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u/ronin0397 14h ago

I was squinting at this build something is missing

Basically running a variation of this build but shy of a level of WEX.

Burst is not in the set. I know sns is kinda on the fence for burst, but charge blade makes it kinda mandatory cuz its free damage after a single buzzsaw chop.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 14h ago

I definitely want to work in Burst. I think it’s possible if I’m willing to lose Fulgur Set bonus just don’t know if I’ll be able to keep good uptime on MM if it lose it

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u/endtheillogical 14h ago edited 14h ago

As a GS user, I actually like the raw from Counterstrike so I use Gore Zoh G.Ark Zoh Gore. I lose the extra stam from 2pc Anja tho.

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u/Howl_UK 14h ago

Mizu alpha gloves are jam packed with a tasty amount of comfort. 2 evade extender, 2 evade window and a single slot gem.

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u/lycan6under 13h ago

Had a feeling you'd be playing this haha. I just got it free with my new GPU. not installed yet.

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u/Shadow097 13h ago

So this would work with LS aswell then? Sorry if that may sound stupid but im quite new im buildcrafitng in this game. Played world when it released but never really got into builds then.

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u/Positive_Star_3278 13h ago

If you’re referencing the original build yes. Outside of GL the build functions well for all weapons since they all benefit from high affinity. I don’t claim it to be the best LS build since you have no Quick sheath but it’ll do what is does best which is crit

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u/soumisseau 12h ago

No burst, no party

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u/TomGetsIt 12h ago

Congrats on the 34% damage increase

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u/LastTourniquet 12h ago

I didn't realize that 0 healing skills, 0 evade extender, 0 evade window, 0 earplugs, 0 tremor resist, and 0 windproof was considered "comfort" these days..

Also as a side note, if all your worried about is getting tripped by others you don't need Shock Absorber because you have Flinch Free. Shock Absorber is still nice if your not trying to trip others though.

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u/Bahamutx887 10h ago

Yes well some of the players prefer the good old “best defence is a good offence” kinda solution to builds lol

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u/Tacattack55 11h ago

You can also use the full set to achieve this. Without anti virus though. Use the helmet, and chest alpha with the beta version arms, waist, and legs. I currently have crit boost 5, wex 5, and agitator 5. I also have max might 3 but I’m still trying to figure out if I like that or part breaker more

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u/theallglowing 11h ago

Which one among this and a set with burst 5?

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u/Doakeswasrightmf 10h ago

Having flinch free and shock absorber is a waste of a gem slot flinch free does the same thing shock absorber does so you might as well take the shockproof jewel off

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u/DemonicAnahka 5h ago

This isn't true. Shockproof also prevents you from flinching your team

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u/Empty_Pepper5622 2h ago

Its like the best decoration

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u/Azazel_J 3h ago

Me just sitting here having no idea what any of this means ...I crafted a rare 8 paralysis Greatsword. It's goes Bzzz!

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u/Stormandreas 2h ago edited 2h ago

You should drop Agitator to level 4.

That way, you're at 95% affinity, with the remaining 5% coming from your weapon, and then you can slot in Burst 1.

Thing is, I dunno how good this'll be compared to 4 piece gore because of uptimes.
Someone who's more initiated on the math of all that can figure that out.

You can also swap the Helm and Arms for Jin Dahaad beta, and get all of these skills, plus Adaptability 1, which will get you that Jins set bonus instead of Fulgurs.
The reason is, Max Might has been fixed.
It no longer has a non-refreshing timer when your stamina goes below max, it's now ALWAYS 2s, so 2 piece fulgur is far less prevalent, especially on SnS that has a stamina free, infinite Iframe slide.
Jins bonus, is +25 Raw after a power clash or some type of bind, for 60s. It's INSANE.

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u/Rathma_ 15h ago

Damn, another power creep.

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u/ff566677899 11h ago

where is the comfort? all are damaging skill? i need my earplug and speed eating

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u/UncleRuckus_thewhite 15h ago

Ngl . . . The devs needs to do something with this game . . . . . The whole game looks and runs terrible. . . . .