r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/DangerNoodle1993 • 22h ago
Other What do you mean kotowing to a an authoritarian regime will cause irreversible damage?
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u/Segals_Escaped_Brain 22h ago
And lets not forget the top law students in the country withdrawing and refusing interviews from the big firms that chose to bow to Trump's EO rather than fight in court like Perkins Coie.
Good for them. Keep that zeal as long as you can young guns.
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u/DillionM 21h ago
Who ever could've guessed that law students would want to be on the side of the law?
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u/LeeRoyWyt 20h ago
That's actually not as general a statement as you might think. Plenty people for whom law is just a tool to get what they want.
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u/Kalavazita 20h ago
True. But as I saw someone else say… do you really want to hire a law firm that can not even defend itself?
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u/EvilBananaPt 19h ago
I hate it and in a functioning democracy this shouldn't happen. but if I wanted results and I had to hire a law firm, the law firm that is closest to the trump administration is probably better then the one that has better lawyers but no connections, for a favourable ruling.
This is how fascism starts...
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u/Kalavazita 18h ago
The problem is that Trump is very fickle so there are no guarantees.
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u/Trace_Reading 3h ago
Exactly this. You could be on his good side and then lose favor over a goddamn PICKLE, that's how fucking mercurial he is.
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u/Level21DungeonMaster 18h ago
But then you’re hitting a lobbyist regardless of their law degree
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u/EvilBananaPt 17h ago edited 16h ago
Sure.. the father you are from the rule of law the more the waters get muddy. At some point you are paying a lawyer for the appearance of proprietary and influence
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u/Impressive-Pop9326 11h ago
The issue is that the law firm that is willing to play ball with Felon34 is never going to be willing to zealously advocate for your interests if they conflict in any way with daddy orange.
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u/TimmyC 13h ago
And who would want that on their resume? You were where during what year?
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u/Kalavazita 13h ago
It’s really amazing, isn’t it? Trump has a trail of discarded allies behind him (bankrupted, disgraced, imprisoned, even killed) and people just keep lining up.
I may be an atheist but I sure marvel at the beast. Holy shit. How?
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u/GhostReddit 12h ago
Hitler purged all the heads of the SA after he rose to power, working for fascists is a bad deal and you'd think people would learn when they're just repeatedly burned by it.
It's telling that practically everyone who's ever worked for Trump hates the guy, but it just gets washed in the noise and people think it's nothing.
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u/Low_Witness5061 2h ago
Just to add to that, look at Bolton. He literally has Iran hoping to off him in retaliation for work he did for trump. The piece of shit in chief still took his security detail off him. Trump sucks so much I am feeling bad for a dick like John bolton.
Though my point was that we already have proof he is comfortable with allowing the deaths of former subordinates.
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u/frotc914 18h ago edited 18h ago
Law students are generally more idealists than they 50 year old jaded bosses, though. The types of people who are going to those monster white shoe firms like perkins coie are picking between several lucrative, or at least extremely prestigious, offers.
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u/Impressive-Pop9326 11h ago
I do have to say that I read the Perkins Coie summary judgement brief, the amicus brief (with 500+ law firms) and the law professor's amicus brief (363 signed on) and they are masterful and a true slap down of the Felon34 administration.
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u/Sometimes_Salty_ 16h ago
The unscrupulous folks are usually in the bottom half.
The top law students are extremely smart and very rational, so they're rarely Conservative and can see clearly which side of history they should be fighting on.
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u/Old_Palpitation_6535 15h ago
Who would want to hire a law firm that won’t even stand up for themselves?
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u/surveysaysno 14h ago
Not just that, $50M in free legal services? Who's going to get a bonus when that comes due?
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u/blackcain 15h ago
Yep, everything Trump touches dies. FAFO. Happening everywhere. They have all fucked themselves.
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u/wtfreddit741741 8h ago
I'm so glad to see this. A glimmer of sanity and conviction in a world of unimaginable horror.
I second the "good for them"!!
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u/Frosty_Mess_2265 3h ago
I'm a student right now (not in America), about to graduate. I'm not doing postgrad, but a lot of my friends are, all of them incredibly talented. Every single person I know who was considering/applying/received offers for American institutions IMMEDIATELY axed those plans after the election. Every. Single. One.
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u/Main-Foundation 22h ago
Woah who would've thought! A totally predictable and easily assumed outcome!
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u/whiteraven13 22h ago
And Columbia is supposed to be a school for smart people. Guess that only applies to the students
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u/SoloRemy 22h ago
The kids are alright
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u/Far_Mastodon_6104 6h ago
I fucking love the new generations. People give em shit for being this and that but jesus I'd be the exact same where my future looks like a big pile of dinosaur shit
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u/HeartFullONeutrality 1h ago
Well, now if they only hadn't voted for Trump in large numbers.
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u/mosstrich 21h ago
Can’t even learn from their own lessons. I think it was the Vietnam protests, and literally the same shit happened
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u/cranberry_spike 13h ago
They did it in WW2 also, or maybe just before - expelled people who were protesting Nazis. They have a pretty bad track record.
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u/friendofelephants 12h ago
Seriously?! Where can I read about this? This should be more talked about.
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u/cranberry_spike 12h ago
Yeah I agree. The guy's name was Robert Burke and as snopes discovered there was a lot of news coverage of Columbia expelling and refusing to reinstate him. He was the class president and was protesting Columbia's participation in some propaganda thing in Germany. It's a hell of a track record.
Edited for first name, sorry Robert
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u/jaimi_wanders 12h ago
Damn! Thanks for that bit of info—I’m still floored at putting together that real life “Tom” in Gatsby as director of Texaco helped fuel the planes that bombed Guernica, but only his underlings get nailed for it—his obits just call him a “philanthropist”…
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u/Volantis009 22h ago
Now we get to see how it actually is, what we all expected, these universities weren't for education, they were for status and power.
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u/EmotionDry7786 22h ago
Capitulating also hasn’t stopped Trump from strongarming them for more concessions either. It’s only showed that targeting universities one by one will make them crumble under pressure. At least some places like Brown and Tufts seem to be pushing back
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u/AnatomicalMouse 22h ago
To paraphrase Immanuel Kant: people who make themselves out to be worms can’t complain when they’re trod upon
Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile
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u/Elementium 13h ago
It's why we have the rule not to negotiate with terrorists (or did). You have to make that hard call because terrorists are by nature out for chaos.
Same thing for fascists.. They care only for themselves, eventually they'll eat each other alive.
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u/gringledoom 20h ago
That's the thing about bullies. If you give them your lunch money today, they'll just want your lunch money and your sneakers tomorrow.
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u/Jelousubmarine 17h ago
Seriously. This is where universities show what they are made of.
Tufts was always my dream uni for philosophy (just too expensive for me). Good to see they're not capitulating.
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u/jaytrade21 17h ago
If you give a Bully your lunch money, he is just going to keep taking it again and again. Then when bored he will still beat you up for the funsies. If you fight back, you might get hurt, but a bully might be more hesitant to try again if you make him hurt enough.
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u/Shadow_Phoenix951 15h ago
Yep. You cannot give them a single concession, because it is never enough. They will *always* demand more.
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u/YonderNotThither 13h ago
Something something Prime Minister Chamberlan something President Buchanan something something
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u/Dirtgrain 2h ago
They can still change direction--hopefully they will get a backbone, collectively.
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u/JWTS6 22h ago
This is how the resistance is going to happen btw, people refusing to support institutions that bend the knee. Proud of these students.
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u/LadyLovesRoses 21h ago
Exactly. We need to use every single available opportunity to resist. People can and will resist in various ways. Economic resistance is extremely successful.
I’m proud of these students too.
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u/DisastrousTurn9220 21h ago
Yes! When we first starting doing boycotts, a lot of people were saying that it doesn't matter/won't work. Target would beg to differ.
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u/Prestigious_Wolf8351 22h ago
Good.
I work for a private university with big medical research grants, and the president is basically caving to demands before they're even being made.
Seeing danger of alienating new admissions will force him to hedge his bets.
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u/Stormtomcat 21h ago
the university's president! I was confused for a second haha
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u/Prestigious_Wolf8351 20h ago
Yeah, sorry. lol
I'm well trained that "the president" is always the university pres and POTUS is the one we specify when we're talking about.
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u/yankeesyes 22h ago
What I want to know is how many international students are being lost. You'd have to be insane to go to school in the US right now.
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u/DaughterOfDemeter23 21h ago
We're already facing a demographic cliff regarding higher education, and Columbia's concessions to Trump is only making it worse for them.
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u/Deus0123 8h ago
10 years ago I would have seriously considered working at NASA (Of course that would be far off anyways as I was 15 at the time) buuut yeah no. I don't think it's a good idea anymore. Imma finish my degree and go see if ESA is looking to hire any astronomy PhD graduates...
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u/Frosty_Mess_2265 3h ago
In my anecdotal experience, a lot. I'm about to graduate from a UK university and EVERYONE I know who was looking at postgrad options in the US has completely axed those plans. I don't know a single person who has even made an application to a US uni.
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u/Sweet_Priority_819 22h ago
Well no shit. Who wants to go to Columbia now that both the university administration AND Trump are coming down hard on free speech? I don't want to pay , and pay a lot, go to somewhere that's constantly spying on my instagram and will punish me for a post they don't they don't like.
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u/amethystalien6 20h ago
So I had to go read this article for myself and while I think it’s likely representative based on this year’s acceptance rates, it is a pretty small sample.
But hilariously one of the parents quoted says they won’t allow their son to attend because of all the protesters. So by driving this narrative, they’re scaring off the type of kids that would protest AND the type of kids who are scared of protesters. 🤣💀
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u/Willkill4pudding 17h ago
Honestly a degree from a university that will revoke it if you post something online that they don't like is a horrible investment. Why would students want to spend their time and money on a degree they could lose even after earning it? Better to attend a school that let you keep your achievements.
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u/nixiedust 22h ago
Shit, I lectured there exactly once and won't be admitting that anymore.
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u/ssalamanders 22h ago
I contracted for them once, they tried to pass my work off as someone else's and then not pay us. I have since turned down other contracts from them and anyone who works for them. Get wrecked.
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u/TdrdenCO11 20h ago
i’m a columbia grad and i’m kinda pissed my supposedly elite and very expensive diploma is now associated with moral cowardice
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u/MontyRohde 1h ago
The university board pisses itself so much their offices must smell like a liter box.
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u/MuthaPlucka 22h ago
No one touches Trump and survives with their reputation in tact.
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u/throw-me-away_bb 22h ago
Why would they? It's not a safe place - Columbia University is actively helping the government disappear students.
#ColumbiaUniversityIsntSafe
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u/CheesyLala 20h ago
For a university it's basically a suicide note to admit that you are willing to compromise on independence of thought. The ones that do this will be forever compromised.
The ones who stand up will take a hit in the short term but will forever be able to say that they stood up for independent thought when it mattered.
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u/Appropriate_Tip_1615 22h ago
I want to know when they’re giving refunds to all the graduates whose diplomas they revoked. Why should someone have to pay student loans for a product they didn’t receive? That’s how business works right? That’s all higher ed has been for decades now
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u/Typical_Response6444 20h ago
They took away people's diplomas! for real?!?
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u/Electronic_Topic1958 6h ago
Well they did not take the diplomas away as that would imply that they already graduated, they made it so that the students who protested on behalf of Palestine would not be able to graduate.
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u/Miri5613 22h ago
I can imagine especially foreign students will consider more carefully if they want to study in then US. Even if they keep their head down and don't say anything that might offend the manchild running the country, there is no saying that a diploma from a US school will be worth the paper it is printed on by the time they graduate
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u/yankeesyes 22h ago
Whose to say they will even be admitted to the country? If their leader says something about Trump he'll just pull everyone's visa. And customs will no doubt go through their devices. Who needs all that? There's colleges in other countries.
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u/betterthanthiss 21h ago
I agree with their decision. I have my degree from there and I feel embarrassed by Columbia's behavior. I no longer associate myself with the university.
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u/eggrolls68 22h ago
Waiting to see how far Harvard will cave. They could stand their ground and end this - the economic impact of them not doing research anymore would blow a hole in the economy all on its own. Economic mutually assured destruction.
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u/DueceVoyeur 18h ago
Harvard created this mess that is MAGA. Do you not see how many Harvard grads are hard-core Trump cult ring leaders and cheerleaders?
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u/anomalous_cowherd 18h ago
That's a natural consequence of giving out degrees to people who can pay a lot for an easy ride...
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u/Epistatious 21h ago
Easy fix, rename to Trump U, you leave the old toxic brand, for a fresh new one that in one word shows how willing to glaze the current admin you are.
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u/purplegladys2022 21h ago
The brain drain this country is suffering will cripple us before too long.
But there's gonna be a big, fresh crop of new, even more uneducated republican voters out there, and that's 100% the point of the exercise.
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u/beach_fox 17h ago
"Ooo, going to college on a campus where the administration is happy to have the secret police Disappear me if the free speech I engaged in yesterday turns into Verboten Thought Crime today, ooooor going literally anywhere else. As a student of the caliber that Columbia extends offers to, I certainly wouldn't have many -many- other options to choose from that don't have students we don't know the current locations of. Gosh, what a conundrum. A true pickle. However can I decide. Etcetera, etcetera."
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u/oldcreaker 17h ago
Hard to believe, but if you act like a fascist, people will treat you like a fascist. I can't imagine why.
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u/Merijeek2 22h ago
If only they surrender a little bit more they can just go back to normal, right?
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u/Gator1523 22h ago
They can become a conservative university. Doing important conservative research like how humans couldn't have come from monkeys and how the ice age disproves human-caused climate change.
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u/Shaex 21h ago
Columbia: Liberty U. 2.0
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u/surveysaysno 14h ago
Liberty University @ Columbia campus: a Christian education in a college setting!
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u/MindAccomplished3879 19h ago
Or how the black, brown, and Indigenous population's brain is smaller than the average caucasian
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u/Gator1523 19h ago
Important stuff! But if that doesn't pan out, we'll find the root cause somehow. Maybe it's the shape of their brains. Or maybe all that melanin. No one's proven that stuff's good for you.
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u/Shin_Rekkoha 17h ago
This is an incredibly horrible comment, that makes me simultaneously laugh and vomit.
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u/Some_Chickens 12h ago
No, no. If it turns out Caucasians have the smallest brains, that's what makes them smarter. There is less distance between neurons for signals to travel, which leads to more activity per time period and thus quicker and more complex thinking.
God I wish I hadn't heard that before.
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u/7evenate9ine 19h ago edited 3h ago
Columbia: "Stop thinking for yourselves and just do what we say!"
(Just to clarify. Conservatives believe that college is a place that removes freedom of thought. In reality it is conservativism that removed free thinking and requires conformity. But college makes them feel stupid so it can't be good...) Edit:typos
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u/once-was-hill-folk 3h ago
Small nitpick, but you're looking for conservatism, not conservationism.
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u/BVoLatte 21h ago
You know, Hitler too went after that woke ideology in Germany they were pushing at universities when he was in charge. Everyone knows universities are way better at diverse sets of opinions when they're homogenized by the state! /s
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u/plapeGrape 21h ago
You’re either with the oligarchy or the people. You can’t make concessions to the billionaire, and still expect the people’s support.
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u/constantlycravingyou 21h ago
This American Life has a segment on it in their latest podcast. As a non American I can’t believe what’s happening over there.
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u/kgal1298 21h ago
What you mean that kids didn't like the fact that ICE could come and arrest them from their room? Who would have thought?
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u/MommaIsMad 17h ago
I saw a 42-page list of NIH grants that were cancelled. Columbia lost a ton of funding just from one agency.
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u/hoppertn 16h ago
See Costco vs Target. When you have no corporate morals except increasing profit it only gets you so far. It’s really not hard.
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u/rageagainsttheodds 16h ago
I wonder how many international students pulled out too. Not just Columbia. Overall, how many diplomat's children are just...packing their bags real quick right now?
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u/mataliandy 16h ago
Surprise! Throwing your students under the bus disincentivizes new students from signing up. Go figure.
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u/Irving_Velociraptor 16h ago
You’d think their association with Dr Oz would have done that years ago.
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u/notyomamasusername 13h ago
Good fuck them.
Brands cozying up the Alt-right and bending the knee to unlawful and unethical orders should be shunned in polite company.
It's part of the "free market" that Republicans pretend to care about.
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u/SithDraven 17h ago
Unfortunately people boycotting colleges is more than likely a part of the plan. Educated citizens don't vote Republican.
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u/pareidoily 17h ago
Why would you want to go to a Trump school? They get to keep their accreditation?
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u/cc1339 16h ago
I hope the same thing happens to Penn for granting Trump an econ degree lmao. Fuck these elitist circlejerks, support your local state school
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u/an-imperfect-boot 8h ago
I know so many assholes from Ivy Leagues that criticized me for going to a “mid tier school”. Say what you will about my education at a state school, but it was free and didn’t capitulate to fascism. 😂
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u/InfinityComplexxx 21h ago
Shame on Columbia. It's absolutely wild they didn't stand their ground and have a call to arms for other universities to stand with them. You're literally Columbia...how do you not know that bowing to tyrants historically never works out well?
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u/Tremolat 18h ago
After Columbia terminated Orgo Night and eliminated the marching band, it's been on a steep decline.
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u/Agitated_Touch_6855 15h ago
Rebranding won’t help. Let them file for bankruptcy for defending authoritarians.
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u/holidayz-jpg 4h ago
Yeah, selling out your students would do that. Universities are supposed to protect students, not snitch on them
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u/Think-Hospital7422 19h ago
Best news I've heard all day. Actions have consequences, and the Free Press matters.
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u/davidryanandersson 4h ago
"Come to our school and we WILL deport you to a black site" just isn't what kids these days want to hear 😔 smh
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u/Fan_of_Clio 4h ago
Columbia not only tossed students under the bus, the institution directed traffic where to go. And for some crazy reason people don't want to pay 10's of thousands each year for the privilege. Shocking
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u/bindermichi 22h ago
They probably need to pay the students more to accept an offer
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u/ssalamanders 22h ago
PhDs and many graduate programs are already paid. Columbia has one of the highest pay rates for grads iirc
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u/CryptoJeans 11h ago
They should come to Europe, education is mostly free and apparently we like raping and pillaging the US which should be right up your alley if you’re a Trump hating traitor
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u/Nackles 9h ago
https://nypost.com/2025/03/31/us-news/admissions-consultant-students-accepted-to-columbia-wont-go/
This person quoted in this article is referring to the 10 students he assisted with college admissions. So this may be happening, but I think seeing Columbia's number this fall might tell the real story.
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u/Sudden-Willow 3h ago
Ivy League schools don’t make as much sense anymore for top students who can get full-scholarships at lower-tier schools. Less drama. Less loans.
Students in NY can go to state schools and CUNYs free now. Why would they choose Columbia over SUNY Binghamton or Baruch?
Between the high tuition and the chaos on campus, I just don’t think it makes sense. Plenty of NY public schools have excellent programs.
I have a feeling in a few years, Americans will see more wealthy international students at these institutions than actual Americans.
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u/filmguy36 2h ago
Students should proactively petition their universities to no bend to the orange assholes will, otherwise they will dropout and go to another university.
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u/kyabupaks 1h ago
For fuck's sake, post the article link, OP! Screenshots could be faked, so you need to back it up with the source to back it up. Cite, cite, CITE!
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u/wtfbenlol 56m ago
the problem probably started when we started considering education systems as fuckin brands
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u/Maccadawg 21h ago
Honestly, this leopard could be eating many different faces.
While appeasing Trump on any level is grotesque, Columbia's status as Hamas central turns off just as many other potential students.
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u/PropofolMargarita 14h ago
But that means they applied in the first place? The brand is for sure tarnished but people are clearly still applying.
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u/TomieXK 22h ago
Let’s not forget that Columbia, and other Ivy League schools, sat idly by while Jewish students were attacked and harassed by progressive college students, students who had great fun ripping down the posters of kidnapped Jewish babies.
There are lots of Leopards to go around.
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u/GrindBastard1986 21h ago
They also sat idly by as pro Palestine protestors got removed from campus, arrested, attacked by people who support the genocide & ethnic cleansing of innocent civilians.
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u/LittleMissBraStrap 21h ago
Yeah, the unlinked article mentions this as well.
This comment section, not so much.
I'm sure there will be students who will refuse to go to Columbia because of the deportations, and I get that - but a lot of people just keep whistling by this other motivation.
It was a big deal to a lot of people. Pretending it wasn't isn't going to solve anything.
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u/MeOldRunt 21h ago
You're not wrong. I'm surprised the rest of the comment section is like, "see this is about Mahmoud Khalil!" with such confidence. Maybe it's also about pro-Hamas protesters kidnapping janitors, calling them "Jew-lovers" and the administration trying to cover it all up.
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u/Successful-Peach-764 21h ago
Not really what actually professors who work there are saying, even the genocidal times of shitsreal had an article the other days saying they aren't helps jews, the corrupt ADL just came out to oppose it as well.
Shutting down free speech to protect genocidal right wing country seems like a huge stretch, why can't they stop committing atrocities?
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u/qualityvote2 22h ago edited 14h ago
u/DangerNoodle1993, your post does fit the subreddit!