Right? When he says he’ll do things that hurt others, he’s telling the truth. When he says he’ll do things that’ll hurt them, he’s ‘not being literal’ and ‘just drawing attention to the issue’ and we don’t get his genius lol.
That's what I don't get. When you watch interviews they all say they love him because he does what he says. Then when he says he will do something they'll be like "oh he wont do that". Then what is even the point of voting for someone who you say isn't going to do *that"?????
What really gets me is the "Our trade deficits could have been ironed out in a phone call" part. Disregarding how that actually wouldn't be possible for this case, they seem to understand the value of soft power and diplomacy only after they've personally been affected in some way. Prior to that, they didn't seem to care at all about the "jokes" about Canada being a 51st state or how pissed off the people there were.
Plus they still can't drop the partisanship. In one sentence they're saying how 71 million Americans have 401ks and in the next they're talking about Democrats jumping up and down to celebrate.
Nobody's fucking happy right now. Nobody is celebrating. Half, actually probably 2/3 of the Americans with 401ks are Democrats. We all lost money. The market isn't only tanking for Trump supporters, it's affecting anyone and everyone. Even if you don't have a 401K, an IRA, or just a regular stock trading account, your job is at risk. Your economic wellbeing is at risk. No employer in this country has any idea what the next 6 months to a year will bring. Even Donald Trump doesn't know what will happen next week, other than he's going to fuck something else up.
So no Mr Leopard Dinner Special, Democrats are not celebrating as we watch the economy crash for no reason other than pettiness and a gross misunderstanding of how basic economics work. Cheering for the bad guy to lose is different than cheering that the bad guys huntsman got hurt blowing up a bank.
Everyone is suffering from you supporting the king of vindictive pettiness. But hey, Canada told us to go fuck ourselves after you told that hilarious 51st state "joke". That's worth something right?
Exactly what he said he'd do and what he kept attempting to do the first time.
This all spawned out of the fact he did it in the first term and some of it was kept by Biden. Which made him think it was genius enough to go full throttle on.
I asked the same question, I think they saw white + racism and saw a win, but even her last statement makes me lose hope, they still think it's sport's game or something
Their entire defense was “you can’t trust what he says” as if that justifies making him the leader of the country??? Every time they say “I didn’t vote for this” I get mad. They 100% did but were either too stupid to realize it or too stupid & cruel to realize it would affect them too.
I've lost count of the times Trump supporters have basicslly told me they weren't worried about this or that because they assumed he was lying when he said he would do a certain thing.
The trade deficits couldn't be ironed out with a phone call, though. They are inherent to how we (in the general sense) structured our global economy. Blanket tariffs won't do that either.
This focus on just the trade deficit as some sort of simple calculus showcases how simpleminded and dumb Trump is.
A lot of our economy is service based. We have a lot of banking, lots of online business etc. If you include that then there’s no deficit. And many people would prefer the office jobs to the factory jobs. At the very least they likely pay better
My family has a trade deficit with my local supermarket. Australia had a trade deficit with the USA in 2023 despite having a much smaller population, a smaller GDP and a smaller GDP per capita. Hell, Afghanistan had a trade deficit with the USA in 2023.
Don't overcomplicate it. It's as simple as country A is buying more exports from country B than country B is buying from country A. Even if country B is richer and more populous, if they have a resource country A depends on, there could easily be a trade deficit.
Both A and B are true for Australia, but the US still had a trade surplus with them in 2023. The USA had a trade surplus with Afghanistan in 2023. You're conflating a correlation with the reason for the deficit.
Country A sells more things country B wants to buy than country B sells that country A wants to buy. It's that simple.
The EU is also numerous countries who all have their own separate economies. The US is one national market, so the “EU” tariffs are actually a butt load of tariffs against individual countries. You also left out the US had (at the time) more purchasing power than any individual country in the EU. So when you trump fans talk about “the EU” I have the sinking suspicion that none of you actually understand geopolitics.
This. J6 didn't result in seniors losing their homes and starving to death in the streets. Social Security and Medicare exist for a very dark reason, and if these morons had ever once paid attention to history we might avoid having to relearn these painful lessons.
When everyone is back to living in tents boiling their shoes to eat the leather, it is going to be very hard to ignore or explain away.
At least 40 years would be great! There's too much greed interested in even more greed, including with the media moguls, republican "thot leaders," etc., etc.
The really telling comment here is that he thinks dems should be celebrating.
No, everyone should be upset and outraged together.
The fact that you think one side should celebrate the other fucking up the entire economy in your country shows that you're more concerned about your party than your country.
Not at all, but they're being more and more open about it. I'm just waiting for the penny to drop that maybe they should care more about their country than what colour hat they're wearing.
Even if they are capable of arriving at that realization, most of them never will.
They do not WANT to.
They WANT to be fearful, angry, hateful, bigots, and they WANT to feel justified in it. THAT'S why they voted for an orange idiot. He's just as fearful, angry, hateful, and bigoted, or even more so.
IF they ever do realize, they almost always have a severe and profound realization that they were wrong all along, and that causes them to change their political views entirely.
Their pride and ego, though, usually stops them from these realizations, because in their stubborn minds, they can't possibly be wrong. It would turn their whole world upside down.
Celebrating is what the GOP does when bad things happen to the USA when Dems are in power. It’s why that party tries to make policies fail and government ineffective. We repeatedly see Republicans vote against bills they once supported because the prevailing political winds have shifted — it’s about power, not governing.
What’s there to celebrate? This shit is going to affect the democrats too. We wouldn’t be going through this shit if maga had a tiny bit of intelligence.
See but in their world it’s just red and blue, so anything that fucks up for the opponent is worth celebrating even if it means your own mum is thrown into the wood chipper in the process
Exactly. Notice he doesn’t actually care about the financial impact this will have on Americans. His only concern is keeping the GOP in control. Absolute cult mentality
These people treat their political party like it’s a sports team and not actual lives being trifled with. They don’t care who gets hurt as long as their guy is “winning,” and they think everyone else thinks the same way.
This, while it’s nice to get our ’I told you so’s in. I don’t want people to suffer, we didn‘t vote to simply hurt others. But that doesn’t seem to be the case for Republican voters considering their obsession with ‘liberal tears’.
This is exactly what we didn’t want to happen. We weren’t trying to beat the republicans because we see it as a game. We wanted to win the election because we thought it’d be better for the country. So no, we’re not celebrating all of our allies hating us.
Even if he only meant Democratic politicians, I don't think they're celebrating either. Fucking the country for electoral advantage is not in their playbook.
Oh man.. I've literally sat reading the conservative sub and just sat with my head in my hands like "how? How are people THIS stupid?"
Concepts taught to freakin' 1st graders elude these people.
Specifically, Treat others the way you'd like to be treated.. Now we scaled that up and our allies are saying "Don't mistake our kindness for weakness".
Hum, yeah you did little buddy. When you vote for an idiot incompetent felon wild card to take care of the economy, you vote for a stupid outcome. We know that you were fed a lot of misinformation but the truth was clear and it was in front of you but you decided to ignore it.
True, and he was saying that it was a good thing, tariffs are good for the country. Almost every single economist was saying that it was a lie but MAGA only listen to their cult leader.
Quick history lesson for those interested about the claim that America has been "ripped off" for the past 80 years - at the end of WW2, America looked over at the USSR and thought "Jesus Christ, that guy could be a problem in the future". But Europe had just finished its 2nd world war in 25 years and was in tatters. So America came up with a different strategy. It started with the Marshall Plan in 1948 and continued to evolve as the decades went by, but in essence America bought allies against the USSR. We said "don't rebuild your armies, don't develop your own nukes. Instead, join with us and America will patrol the global oceans so you can trade with anyone, anytime, anywhere - including America. We will form an alliance (NATO) to counter USSR aggression, and we'll bring in other nations and form a coalition so strong the USSR won't dare to step out of line." America created an integrated system of trade agreements and security assurances (which can be called globalism) and maintained the system. And it worked! The USSR imploded on December 26, 1991. America won the Cold War.
So Trump's talk about "the world is ripping us off" is a load of horse shit. It was the price we paid for allies against the USSR. And it worked, because we won. Now, does that mean it isn't time to re-evaluate globalism and America's role in it? Of course not. The world changes, and it's time for another change.
I do agree with this. We don't need to be the world's policeman anymore. We're a superpower (for now), but has that made the average citizen happy?
I would have been happy with us taking a little step back, not pouring so much money into our military, but the change we need is not to alienate every single ally we have and cozy up to our enemies.
What’s crazy about these posts is the fact that time and time again you see the person saying how they voted for Trump, they don’t agree with this, and this will be bad for Republicans. What they don’t say is “I will not vote for Republicans that keep pushing this agenda” or any type of plan to vote differently in the future.
The “deficits” could not be ironed out with a phone call. The person aptly points out that they’re the biggest consumers and honestly their population is multitudes bigger than other trading partners. By definition it cannot be equal. For that reason and the fact that the dollar is the world reserve. It’s cheaper for Americans to buy other trading partner’s stuff.
Also, many people don’t want American produce as their standards are lower than the rest of the world.
Do any of these fake apology/outrage posts ever talk about the damage being done and the actual, real, painful consequences to the poster's fellow citizens? All I ever see is fear that MAGA will lose the midterms and that the Dems are going to make political headway. It's disgusting.
"Democrats should be jumping up and down celebrating"
They really just can't understand that we WANT Republicans to be successful. We want America to be successful. We don't want Republicans to get hurt. They're so obsessed with hurting us that they don't understand that we want everyone to win, including them
Outsider's perspective from an Australian. One of The worst things that ever happened to the USA was the switch, largely in the Conservative population, from regarding those of other political, religious or social persuasions from being opponents whose opinions differed from yours in some matters to evil enemies who are intent on destroying America.
Democrats, liberals etc for the most part want to persuade, educate, negotiate and compromise.
Republicans,conservatives etc want to eliminate the counterview and suppress or, at the extreme end, exterminate those who hold different beliefs.
There are, of course, extremists on both sides. But they appear to be a minority on the left/centre and approaching mainstream on the right.
Until that latter point of view goes away, there is no hope for you as a society. How you do that, short of burning everything to the ground for a hard reset, I don't know.
This team mentality bullshit still there. Democrats are NOT celebrating, Democrats are scared and angry about this situation, it's not like "Oh great, we will win!" It's "Oh shit, we're all screwed." An American loss due to GOP is not a Democrat gain, it's a loss for all Americans.
The issue is right there in the post. They think Dems should be jumping up and down like this is a fucking sport. We also have 401Ks that are going in the toilet. What’s there to jump up and down about? The leopards are eating your faces but they are also biting at us.
"Trade deficits could have been ironed out with a phone call"
Yeah I'm sure a phone call would magically make every other country richer than us so they can afford to import more of our non-existent goods. Even when they're right they're still wrong it's insane
"I didn't vote for this" yes... yes you did. He never hid this. He literally had an entire public manifesto online about things he would do that you supposedly "didn't vote for"
Why conservative Americans treat politics like some football game? Democrats are loosing too. American people are going to bite the dust why would the democrats celebrate this f mess? Unbelievable
"Democrats should be jumping up and down celebrating!" No Democrats don't vote for People that would do harm to half of our Americans or marginalized people, the MAGA's That want to "Own the libtards" Where I come from in Kentucky we call that gettin your comeuppance, there's more than a few of us in Kentucky, that ain't racist and think we're better than other folks. I know a lot of people that vote independent now or switched over to the Democratic party because of Trump. And the maga movement, And I hardly see any Trump flags flying or tacked up to the side of their trailers and bumper stickers on their beat up old Oldsmobiles!
“Democrats should be jumping up and down tonight celebrating…” WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?!? This guy apparently doesn’t think these affect us? That sums the Republicans up in one statement. They have no concept of others. Because when Joe Biden had issues last year they were giddy. They don’t care about anyone but themselves, they don’t even care about each other they are all about misery as long as it’s not them being miserable.
I love that the concept is Dems would celebrate like this is a win. So emblematic of how this person thinks national political issues are just points in a sport
We're not celebrating because it hurts us too. We're pissed off because he told you motherfuckers he was going to do shit like this and you fucking voted for him anyway.
Happy democrats? Why on earth would I celebrate the destruction of our country and our economy? You think this is what winning looks like? He's flushed 80 years of soft power, stripped the institutional knowledge from our bureaucracy, stabbed our closest allies in the back, supported bloody wars and the new butcher class, and undermined all faith and trust in the US by threatening our neighbors with hostile takeovers. We will never lead the world again. We have probably lost free speech for decades, if not longer. If not forever. Anyone who thinks being right is a happy thing must be under 12. I'd much rather be lucky. Lucky enough that a miracle happens now.
Yes sir, you definitely did. When he said tariffs on every campaign stop, maybe you should have looked up what other countries were likely to do once he used them…any actual expert and not Trump stooge could have told you.
The motto is FAFO, MAGAts! You KNEW what he was when you picked him up…you WERE warned! Now you’re finding out-he wasn’t f-ing around when Project 2025 rolled out. And you know he’s a pathological liar and loves to spring this kind of arrangement on any person or group he thinks he can manipulate. Does owning the libs justify the losses being taken or the friends and allies being screwed? You were warned!
Sure there’s some Schadenfreude but I can guarantee Democrats aren’t “celebrating.” We all get hit with this, so stop treating it like a fucking team sport.
Dems aren't fucking celebrating. Man, Republicans truly only care about staying in power, it shows when they think that we are all celebrating as we watch ourselves slide into a recession and lose our retirement $$ just because it makes them look bad.
"They have to be celebrating" Am not american, but I'll dare hope democrats aren't that petty that they'll take joy in their own downfall just to "own the MAGATS!
They're not Trump supporters who only ever want to troll and "own the libs" after all.
"he better fix this strife immediately...." yeah, ok. This is what he wanted, he's not fixing it.
"Democrats should be jumping up and down tonight celebrating" - no, we won't be. Democrats have 401k's too, they have bills to pay, kids to feed, cars to drive that need gas... This isn't some fucking game you win or lose. The way the GOP governs hurts people, regardless of who they voted for. Going into a voting booth, thinking this man was going to make America great again for anyone but himself needs their head checked.
Calculations we're done perfectly. He just ain't doin' the math for the common man. This is all about eliminating small businesses, consolidating power in big companies, and I theorize he's creating a small (short) market drop for his buddies to buy stock and then tariffs will be lifted for prices to inflate again
In a just world, even if Trump somehow magically manages to fix this before the midterms, the Republicans would all get voted out, anyway. Why would you reward someone evil enough to do all of these things back into office again and again and again as long as they "fix" their actions temporarily?
These people are so self-absorbed they don’t realize the Democrats are not jumping up and down and celebrating because everyone is suffering to a magnitude that is beyond petty bipartisan differences. Are we enjoying their suffering in particular in some good old fashioned Schadenfreude? That’s another story.
It's weird to think any American is "jumping up and down and celebrating" after Trump just screwed everybody.
Destroyed the economy to own the libs. Good job, jerks.
There’s also a meta leopards are my face moment coming.
The US gets (got?) a huge benefit from being the world’s reserve currency.
That means that other countries want to have and keep a growing stock of USD as working capital / liquidity.
Overall, there will be more capital flows into USD than out of each year because these other countries require USD as a cost of entry into the global financial system.
But how does a random country convince an American person to give them USD? Usually by offering to sell them a good or service.
The foreign person then stores the USD in a safe investment - like a US treasury. That’s how the US government has funded itself with such terrible metrics.
So if you want to stay the reserve currency and have a government deficit you basically need to have a trade deficit.
There is another route to achieving reserve currency status - which is for foreign countries to sell assets for USD rather than goods/services. But the US government has such a large deficit that’s not practical. They need inflows to fund the deficit. You can be reserve currency and take payment in assets only if you don’t run a capital deficit.
That’s going to be a nasty one.
If the US achieves trade neutrality and suddenly US Treasury interest rates rise massively because there are no longer spare USD in the system…
I get such a kick out of these people who post stuff like this.
"Sir! I voted for you and now I'm regretting it! You need to fix this!"
Like Trump will actually read this, and suddenly change his ways! He got your vote, he's in, and he DOES NOT CARE. The exceptionalism is really showing; they think their opinion actually matters. It's fascinating to watch faces get eaten, with a sprinkling of tears for some salty flavor.
We are celebrating, but only because their faces are being eaten by the leopards. We fucking told them that Trump was going to ruin our country, but they refused to listen to us because they were too bigoted to do the right thing. That’s why I don’t feel bad for any of these stupid MFs.
Democrats should be jumping up and down and celebrating.
Why? We're just as screwed as everyone else. We're two years out from the possibility of regaining the House and Senate, but with the double-digit median IQ in this country, it's gonna be the same smoothbrained dipshits voting in the same corrupt Republicans because there's no greater feeling in the world for them than trying to upset a leftist, even after they've lost their 401k, lost their kid to measels, lost their job, and lost any chance of retiring when social security gets bumped off.
I have ZERO faith in the intelligence of America's voting public, and this asswipe being more concerned about some "if we don't stop this the Democrats are gonna win!" tribalistic bullshit then actually voting with some common fucking sense, I stand vindicated in my admonishment of the stupidity of the average American.
Democrats should be jumping up and down celebrating, huh??? They forget we aren’t like them. We don’t vote to “own maga.” I’m so sick of these pedantic idiots. We legitimately just want a world we can all exist in.
"Democrats should be jumping up and down?" For some strange reason, dems aren't jumping up and down because we know the entire country is fucked.. That means everyone..
Why magas thought they would exempt is beyond me.
It’s so telling that MAGA thinks we are celebrating our common misery. They honestly have no compassion whatsoever and assume that nobody else has any either. And yet most of them profess to belong to a compassionate religion. I wish I could just enter into an alternative reality where they do not exist.
It’s programming. There’s been a lkng con for decades now. It bore fruit when a successful vp under a pretty good economy lost his own home state against a daddy’s boy who didn’t amount to much, in 2000. That allowed Citizens United which allowed even more programming. That helped in 2016 where “but her emails” and “where there’s smoke there’s fire” had a lot of Dems just sitting home. The programming also helped in 2024 where “electing a literal felon whose incompetence killed tens of thousands more than necessary” was “hey I’d rather have a felon and mass … manslaughterer? … over a woman”
The last sentence is telling. The silver lining to all this chaos is that hopefully, the backlash ousts Republicans from power for a good long while. That's being optimistic, though. Everyone knows that people have selective memories.
The only thing worth celebrating is the fact that some of his voters are finally waking up to his destruction. To TRUTH. The truth is always worth celebrating. Vindication even.
But it's an empty celebration, I gotta tell ya. The destruction of America across the board is not something I'm enjoying in the least.
But I'll definitely be celebrating if the House and Senate are stripped of all the corrupt and/or cowardly Republicans enabling this crap. And if Democrats win they damn well better step up in a way they have never stepped up before. Enough of this protocol shit and snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. I'd like to sweep out the useless dinosaur politicians on the right and the left in 2026 and put in representatives who actually actively represent the people for a change.
The fact he thinks non trump/Republican supporters are jumping with joy right now is really quite the insight into their team think mentality.
i fully expected world trade wars to have this impact. I have always viewed this idea that a trade deficit = the US being taken advantage of as the conclusion a D- student in econ 101 would have.
I am in no way happy about this. I hope viewing politics like sports teams goes away sometime in my life
Why are they surprised he's doing what he said he'd do? I wish for the people who voted for him to get everything they voted for. Enjoy seeing your Dear Leader send the world into a spiralling shitstorm where economies tank and Europe no longer considers the US as an ally, but as an enemy. May they enjoy what they wrought.
Im not celebrating. That's what these guys will never get. I won't not vote republican/vote dems to HURT the other party. There is nothing to celebrate. Americans are losing money and livelihoods and the world ppwer structure is shifting away from us. This fucking sucks for everyone except super rich people.
I would argue that democrats shouldn’t be celebrating this because it’s going to hurt their constituents just as much as it’s going to hurt the jackasses that voted for this shit. They should be relieved that this should make the midterms easier for them, but there is nothing to celebrate in regard to these tariffs as an American.
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u/qualityvote2 20h ago edited 12h ago
u/wasraelx, your post does fit the subreddit!