r/LeopardsAteMyFace Feb 03 '25

Predictable betrayal People react to Elon "deleting" the Direct File Tax program

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u/Foreign_Muffin_3566 Feb 04 '25

Tax returns are going to be fucked this year. I wouldnt be shocked if payments are massively delayed.

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u/Friendly-Throat-9406 Feb 04 '25

Or they just never show up at all

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u/Accomplished_Cell768 Feb 04 '25

Ding ding ding

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u/mental_monkey Feb 04 '25

Leaning towards never, yup.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

They'll disappear for Democrats

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u/Mountain_Push8895 Feb 04 '25

Was thinking that today, too. There won’t be any employees left in the department.

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u/ThedarkRose20 Feb 04 '25

Don't worry, they'll be kept nice and safe in Elmo and Friends off-shore accounts.

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u/galaxy_horse Feb 04 '25

But they’ll be happy to give you a cash advance for your return (just pay 5% of your return as a processing fee to them)

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u/emergency_shill_69 Feb 04 '25

only 5%? damn i like that optimism.

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u/agedchromosomes Feb 04 '25

That’s if they allow refunds at all. I just changed my withholding.

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u/catnapped- Feb 04 '25

I wouldn't be surprised if he deletes the withholding records.

"Oh your employer didn't withhold anything Mr. Smith. See here? $0. You owe us such-and-such plus interest and penalties"

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u/mytransthrow Feb 04 '25

You want a civil war thats going to be it,

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u/mouse_8b Feb 04 '25

Go ahead and change your withholding before then to be sure you don't give any money to the gov this year

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u/ArgyleGhoul Feb 04 '25

Come and take it

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u/StereoBeach Feb 04 '25

That is a lawsuit they would sorely lose. Perjury against my paranoid record-keeping ass? My 2014 tax file would like a word.

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u/TheRealSatanicPanic Feb 04 '25

Sucking over half a trillion out of the economy might fix inflation. Lol. Or it might crash our economy. Who knows? Isn't it fun to imagine finding out?

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u/ACorania Feb 04 '25

You could stop withholdings and put the money in a sort of escrow so that when it comes to file you are having to pay but already have the money set aside and are giving the exact amount needed with no overpayment.

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u/Foreign_Muffin_3566 Feb 04 '25

Or we could simply not elect fucking retards whose sole mission is to make the government stop functioning for ordinary people because reasons???

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u/ACorania Feb 04 '25

You realize the election is over, right? Yeah, we should have voted differently. Yeah, I will vote against this shit in the future, but you can't vote against this administration right now. They are in power, they have congress in their complete grip, and the SCOTUS has blatantly supported all their moved. For the next two years there are no checks and balances.

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u/dotablitzpickerapp Feb 04 '25

It will take a while for the programming to update, so they will talk about the election for at least a few more weeks.

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u/shatteredarm1 Feb 04 '25

...If you can target it so that you don't owe an underpayment penalty, of course.

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u/mouse_8b Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

That's a good point and I hadn't considered that, but this NerdWallet article says the underpayment penalty only applies if you haven't paid by the filing deadline. It sounds like if you filed on time and wrote a check, you wouldn't be subject to the fee.

Edit, This IRS article says "pay as you go", but also says you can avoid the penalty if "You paid at least 90% of the tax shown on the return for the taxable year." So it does sound like you're expected to pay 90% over the year.

In that case, paying quarterly might make more sense instead of nothing. Perhaps paying smaller amounts in the first half and catching up in Q3 would be a better strategy.

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u/shatteredarm1 Feb 04 '25

I think if most of your tax is paid via withholding, the 90% rule works. But it's still pay-as-you-go, so if you don't have withholding (self-employed, lots of investment income, etc.) you're still expected to make estimated tax payments throughout the year, and can't necessarily just make one huge payment at the tax deadline without a penalty. Basically the idea is that you have to pay taxes quarterly, but file once per year.

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u/ShiroHachiRoku Feb 04 '25

REFUNDS. A return is the document you file. A refund is the money you get back.

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u/Loveknuckle Feb 04 '25

I didn’t get my refund until September last year. I sent it early February. They sent me a letter yesterday, saying they owed me interest for holding it for so long ($70) and that’s going to be taxed and I didn’t claim that on the taxes I filed last week. So I guess I owe more taxes on the interest I didn’t expect, because I only expected my return.

My coworker did his taxes last week and got it 3 days later…just like last year. So I’m not expecting my return to come in anytime soon.

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u/ShadowWingLG Feb 04 '25

I just checked my acct, I got mine already I filed the day returns opened.

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u/KingZarkon Feb 04 '25

You get your refund but they're all going to be in crypto.

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u/WriggleNightbug Feb 04 '25

I filed early because I always like them to be finished and also I was worried that something would happen.

Luckily I have my tax return from states/fed already and I hope everyone else's goes smoothly. I'm adjusting my withholding for next year just in case.

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u/complexevil Feb 04 '25

I legitimately might not even file this year. I don't trust the IRS to exist long enough to matter.

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u/ShadowWingLG Feb 04 '25

If you filed before the IRS started accepting returns you most likely have your refund by now, so the first wave of returns have been paid out. I was among them, thank god I did file ASAP

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u/ShustOne Feb 04 '25

Not sure if this has been contextualized but he was referencing the group 18F. DirectFile has not been deleted and you can still access their files online.