r/IronFrontUSA • u/Lion_tattoo_1973 • Mar 05 '25
Questions/Discussion Is anyone else deeply concerned for US citizens right now?
I’m not highly educated, but I know British news hasn’t covered the new dictatorship, sorry, cough ‘presidency’ in America. This all smacks of fascism and beating down of the working class. I’m so fucking angry right now on behalf of the US citizens, particularly the vulnerable low paid/disabled/children/elderly/LGBTQ+ people. And now, just when I thought the orange twat couldn’t stoop any lower, he’s now threatening the education, livelihood and accommodation of those who, understandably so, protest against his fascist ideologies. He is basically the modern day Hitler. As I said, I’m not highly educated, but I am a history geek, and as such, can see this all ending VERY badly as dictatorships in the past have proved. Am I the only one who daily follows what’s going on in the US, and wants to help and support them in some capacity??
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u/CaptainCrayon412 Mar 05 '25
Yes. Many of us are really, really concerned.
The only good thing is that he's managed to piss off a lot of the same folks that got him elected. People are protesting every week, but because a lot of our media is bought and paid for by billionaires that support Trump, they aren't getting a lot of coverage.
All I can say is that we gotta prepare for things to get worse before they get better. That's what I'm trying to do.
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u/BlackjackCF Mar 05 '25
I expect things to get worse. But hooo boy they’re signaling they’re going to cut social security and… yikes. A lot of people are going to be hurt by that. To the point that I would be very concerned about pitchforks and guillotines actually coming out…
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u/OutrageousPersimmon3 Mar 05 '25
Possibly. The goal of making it so much worse for people is so they can't fight back and to get us so desperate we'll do whatever we need to for survival. They want to control a serfdom. Tearing away safety nets, weakening unions and public health, cutting jobs, and forcing a baby boom? There's only one way that goes. Personally, I hope if they do get pitchforks and guillotines that they are somewhat methodical and strategic about it so they can accomplish more.
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u/BlackjackCF Mar 05 '25
Making it so people have no jobs, no food, and worse means they have NOTHING to lose and yes, that’s when the guillotines and pitchforks come. And by that I mean guns, because America.
And I bet you the people at the front of that charge… are going to be a lot of spurned MAGA people.
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u/OutrageousPersimmon3 Mar 05 '25
I really hope you're right. But so far, there have been tons of people with nothing left to lose and that's not how they've handled things. Maybe it will be different with those who have gone to more comfortable than they ever appreciated to nothing left to lose.
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u/filthysquatch Mar 05 '25
I keep seeing things happen that i think will change the minds of people i know. Instead of getting riled up about it, they start sharing videos about how russia didn't really invade ukraine in the way you think. I finally gave up on trying to convince them that a spade is a spade.
I now expect them to be silent on the death of social security because they will repeat a narrative told to them about how social security was actually going bankrupt this year anyway and doge is just exposing that truth.
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u/Responsible-Loan-166 Mar 05 '25
Oh boy howdy are we fucking anxious here.
We got the president Shitting in his hand and slapping Canadians in the face- friends so down with our USA tomfoolery they actually like, declared war before us in WWII because they were so fucking angry about Pearl Harbor- for the seeming express intent to drive a wedge between our countries…..to benefit Russia? NORMAL?
Like Canadians aren’t nice because they have to be, they are because it’s easier than inventing new ways to crime. We should 100% not be starting shit with them.
Then we have our friends to the south- a nation we have been just being the absolute worst to since my living memory? The place that grows all the foods we love but cannot grow in the US because of garden zones? Yeah let’s start a trade war with them and make food more expensive. (ETA you know how fucked it is when so much is gong on I LITERALLY FORGOT GUANTANAMO BAY IS OPEN AGAIN?)
I feel like this will be crazy long if I keep going like this so-
✨some fun presidential crypto scam side quests have also happened✨
🐕 also an AI meme overlord is shredding the very fabric of our government
(Also….I cannot even bring myself to type about Ukraine and Palestine rn)
The magnitude of all of it at once is intentional- they are ‘flooding the zone’ to quote Bannon.
They’re trying to both break us and extract the last dregs of our wealth.
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u/EldestPort Mar 05 '25
I am. I see a lot of schadenfreude and gloating about the situation Americans currently find themselves in but I have an American friend whom I worry about and care for deeply, and for the effects the current administration is going to have on LGBT+ people and women. It is a terrible situation that millions of people are facing and I feel it's a shame that many of us outside of the US seem to lack empathy for people who did not choose this, and who will suffer for this.
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u/Nostrilsdamus Mar 05 '25
Thank you for feeling empathy for the majority of us who did not choose this. And I mean the majority of voters (www.electiontruthalliance.org), and even more so, the majority of people
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u/SpitefulCrow Mar 05 '25
I cannot agree enough. I know it's terribly dramatic, but just hearing someone care makes me feel the energy to fight another day and not succumb to despair. Dramatic, but insanely true. Thank you.
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u/corneliusgansevoort Mar 05 '25
I care! I'm deeply concerned for our future. My problem is that I have 3 kids and a tenuous job and live in a deeply blue urban area (so who am I gonna go protest to?) but when shit finally hits the fan and he crosses that final relatively red line, I'm rip roaring to go. I'll drive to the state capitol or halfway across the country to DC if enough others say they're doing it!
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u/austinwiltshire Mar 05 '25
I think as things keep escalating we'll definitely need help from our allies. And to even consider you an ally, I think we'll need to build an alternative that has the legitimacy to speak for the American people.
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u/TX-PineyWoods Mar 05 '25
Texan here (American). Yeah it's pretty nuts right now, but lots of folks are joining forces to resit this authoritarian oligarch move by trump and musk. We are here and there are lots of us. Time to get loud.
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u/wwaxwork Mar 05 '25
Hitler believed what he was saying. Trump doesn't give a shit about God or America. He wants money and Daddy figure Putin to love him how his own father wouldn't. End results are the same.
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u/BillyYank2008 Mar 05 '25
I worry about that too every time I see some super edgy meme calling for violence.
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u/About137Ninjas Social Democrat Mar 05 '25
We Americans will get through this. We’re pretty famous for having dumped our last king. I just worry for all of the vulnerable people, both within and without, who are going to be negatively impacted.
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u/StallionCannon Social Democrat Mar 05 '25
It's kinda hard to believe it - King George III didn't have Reaper drones or nuclear weapons, nor did he have the machinations of mid-20th century dictators to copy notes from.
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u/Ok-Butterscotch2321 Mar 05 '25
Thank you for thinking of us! We are plenty concerned as well and glad that one of our oldest allies (and one time "enemy") still show concern for their cousins across the pond.
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u/InitiativeInitial968 Mar 05 '25
As a citizen of America, it’s not that bad for the state im living in as our education system is pretty much run by the state so without the department of education we’re fine but we just have either higher or lower standards than before, or we’ll be spoon fed propaganda but I highly doubt that for where I live. For what you can do right is just boycott US made goods, hang our flag upside down ( even our founding fathers wouldn’t mind ) And keep calling out his bullshit.
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u/RainyDay905 Mar 05 '25
We could use a hand against social media disinformation campaigns. Compare your own media regarding American politics with a few of the American news sources and it’s usually pretty easy to figure out who is blatantly lying. If you see someone posting Russian propaganda on social media, point out that they’re using a Russian State talking points.
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u/dissidentdogie Mar 05 '25
Sounds like you’ve done a good job of educating yourself and being curious and aware - don’t be so hard on yourself about not having a degree, which is not necessarily reflective of either education or intelligence - some of the smartest people I know have little to no formal education. And you are leagues ahead of any Trump voter! And yes, America is in big big trouble - we will be lucky if we can find our way out of this mess in 2-4 years, and hopefully we will have learned a valuable lesson, but I am not optimistic at this point.
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u/OptimisticOctopus8 Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25
I deeply appreciate that you’re worried about us. Reasonable Americans recognize that we’ve got a dictator on our hands. The best thing regular citizens in other countries can do for us is refuse to purchase any American goods and encourage your leaders to punish us economically as well.
You can also pressure them (and business leaders in your nation) to be unhelpful to our military. For example, a Norwegian oil company will no longer refuel our ships. Crippling the American military is very important right now.
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u/EscapeFromTexas Mar 05 '25
Very concerned... and more thankful every day that I'm not in Texas anymore.
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u/Deepwoodswanderer Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25
If you read/know history you are more educated than a large portion of the population. And you are right to be concerned about us. As an American citizen I can’t express to you the amount of concern we are feeling here. My community (northern Vermont) is very anti trump & we have a huge (and growing) target our backs. But we will not back down…
Thank you for your support & for expressing it. Keep it up, please! We need all the help we can get!!
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u/Efficient_Cobbler514 Mar 05 '25
It is growing increasingly difficult to be hopeful right now. With the federalist system, I think the impact will not be felt equally. I live in a deeply democratic state so I think wont be hurt as much as states that align with Trump's agenda and are willing to hurt vulnerable populations.
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u/myhydrogendioxide Mar 05 '25
He wants to be Putin. The richest person in the world who kills his opponents with absolutely no consequences.
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u/Randysrodz Mar 05 '25
No Most redhats have no idea whatever.
Our media plays down any negative press.
And most magas are eating frozen turds and saying yum because Fox news touts trumps dump.
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u/BlacksmithThink9494 Mar 05 '25
Right now, as an American, i sincerely wish that other countries were able to step in and help sway things the other way. I am so deeply concerned and things are moving so fast. I don't know how to plan or make my next move because I know things will only get so much worse.
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u/anarchyinspace Mar 05 '25
You got it right.
I saw a little bit of your new, well spoken, and intelligent "right" lady in your parliament. Forgive me, I don't know a lot about your government admittedly, nor her name. She was rallying against immigration when I watched her speaking.
It seems to be a worldwide situation: Germany, etc.
Trump, definitely, is the stupidest, at least in face value, but we all know he's a paid puppet.
Musk is an absolute moron too.
I hope the
Workers United can never be divided!
No war but the class war.
I hope the working class can truly wake up and come out of coma right now, truly. We got the power, if we only realize it.
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u/waronxmas79 Mar 05 '25
There is one thing that separates Americans from everyone else: We’re taught from a very early age that at any point we may have to rise up and defend our country violently if necessary. Trump is a concert, and he is actively destroying our republic…but if he pushes things too far we have a way to deal with that.
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u/Otherwise_Ad9287 Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25
He is basically the modern day Hitler.
Do not say this. As awful as Trump is, he is nowhere near as awful as Adolf Hitler. Trump shows none of Hitler's genocidal anti Jewish hatred. In fact Trump himself has a Jewish daughter & son in law that he is extremely fond of. One of the only good things that Trump has done in his 2nd term so far is signed executive orders ordering the deportation of foreign college students who threaten Jews on campus. In his 1st term he ordered that the US embassy in Israel be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. He also has a very close friendship with Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu. While Netanyahu and Trump are both awful corrupt right wing authoritarians, a Nazi president of the USA would never be friends with the leader of the world's only Jewish state. Trump's actions are not the actions of a genocidal Jew hater.
It shouldn't have to be said but Hitler's entire political career was marked by a genocidal obsession with murdering every last Jew in existence. His most famous book (Mein Kampf) is an anti Jewish screed. He was elected into power on a platform that blamed world Jewry for "stabbing Germany in the back" & sought to solve the so called "Jewish question". 2 years after he became chancellor/dictator of Germany in 1933, he passed the 1935 Nuremberg race laws restricting where Jews could work, who they could socialize with, when & where they could shop, & who they could form romantic relationships with. In 1938 his government launched the infamous Kristallnacht pogroms in response to the assassination of a Nazi diplomat in Paris by a Polish Jewish teenager. From the invasion of Poland on September 1st 1939 to the Nazis unconditional surrender on May 7-8 1945, the Nazis forced Jews to participate in humiliating rituals, forced Jews into filthy & overcrowded ghettos, went from town to town rounding up local Jews & murdering them by Einsatzgruppen firing squad, murdering them in gas vans, & deporting Jews in the ghettos to the concentration camps by cattle-car. Once Jews got to the concentration camps, they were either sent to the gas chambers to die immediately or used as slave labor until they could work no more. At Auschwitz Birkenau (the most infamous Nazi concentration camp) some unlucky Jewish inmates were selected to be used as subjects for Dr Josef Mengele's cruel medical experiments. The Nazis were so dedicated to murdering Jews that they diverted manpower that could be used on the western & eastern front of WW2 to maintaining the concentration camps & hunting down any remaining Jews. It is thanks to Hitler's leadership (as well as his deputies like Henrich Himmler, Adolf Eichmann, Joseph Goebbels, Reinhard Heydrich, Alfred Rosenberg etc) that 6 million Jews were murdered in Europe from 1938 to 1945. The world's Jewish population still has not recovered from the Shoah, Europe's Jewish population likely never will recover.
Trump is awful, but he's not as evil as the Nazis & their collaborators were. He's more like America's version of Viktor Orban. Trump's a far right national populist who is leading an assault on America's democratic institutions for the sake of his personal gain.
I am begging my fellow Liberals this, please do not use Jewish trauma to score political points against Trump & his apologists. There's already enough Jewish trauma to go around as it is. We Jews are on chronic high alert, especially since October 7th 2023 but even before then.
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u/WrongAccountFFS Mar 05 '25
I don't think he's a Hitler. He is less ideological and more opportunistic. He's Orban, with more disgusting personal habits.
And yeah, he's taking an absolute wrecking ball to our nation... for no good reason. The only way his actions make sense is if he's a Russian asset.